Steve Hayes looks for buyer for London Wasps

10:03am Wednesday 5th October 2011 in Prestwood & Great Missenden By Alan Feldberg

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LONDON Wasps were put up for sale this morning.

Owner Steve Hayes has announced that he is looking for a buyer for the club that has steadily declined since he took over in 2008.

Rumours that he was looking to offload the club have been rife since plans to build a new stadium at Booker fell through in the summer.

Now Hayes has confirmed it's true, insisting the club isn't sustainable at Adams Park.

What this might mean for Wasps' future in Wycombe remains to be seen.

In a statement, Hayes says: "As you will see today I have made the decision to begin a search for new owners for the club.

"This was a very tough decision for me personally but ultimately I believe it is the right one to ensure that London Wasps continues to drive forward both on and off the pitch.

"I have spent much of the past few months considering the best course of action for the club following the decision by Wycombe District Council to stop supporting our plans to develop a Sporting Village which would have included a new stadium.

"The vision of planning and developing this facility was one of the key reasons I got involved in the club and being unable to bring this to fruition remains bitterly disappointing.

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"I remain of the belief that London Wasps at Adams Park is not a sustainable long-term option and I and my advisors believe that the Sporting Village plans remain feasible for Wasps as a standalone club.

"Therefore I will work with and encourage any new owner to bring these plans to realisation at an alternative location."

Niether Hayes or director of rugby Dai Young were available for further comment.

Hayes added: "I have been honoured to be at the helm of such a prestigious club and I believe that a number of our initiatives over the past few seasons, such as our St George’s Day Game at Twickenham, have showcased the club to new audiences and more importantly new supporters.

"I would like to think that I will leave the club in a relatively healthy position as the team continues to transition in a positive manner and behind the scenes we have also been making real inroads into making the club a commercially viable business.

"This process will take time and nothing is going to happen overnight but rest assured that any potential new owner will need to convince me that they have the best interests of the club at heart and be in a position to invest at the right level.

"Any new owner will have to show me that their aspirations are to provide London Wasps with the right level of investment and structure to ensure that they are once again a team in the hunt for titles at the end of every season.

"My priority now is continuing to support the club and its staff while this process is underway."

What do you think? Leave your comments below.

Comments (93)

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10:09am Wed 5 Oct 11

Trip says...

"a Sporting Village which would have included a new stadium"

That wasn't what it was.

Can he sell WWFC too?
"a Sporting Village which would have included a new stadium" That wasn't what it was. Can he sell WWFC too? Trip

10:54am Wed 5 Oct 11

BucksComment says...

Good - shows that the decision not to fund his stadium was the correct one.
Good - shows that the decision not to fund his stadium was the correct one. BucksComment

11:05am Wed 5 Oct 11

usvelt says...

Toys out of the pram?
The spoilt child hasnt got his way.
Toys out of the pram? The spoilt child hasnt got his way. usvelt

11:15am Wed 5 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around.
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If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory!
It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around. . If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory! gpn01

11:18am Wed 5 Oct 11

softly says...

It is sad that the Rugby club has been put up for sale. Steve Hayes has put a lot of his own personal money, running into millions of pounds, into both the Rugby Club and the Football club. The development of the sports village would have brought a lot of visitors and business into the town. I think that the Council has missed an opportunity which it will rue in later years.
It is sad that the Rugby club has been put up for sale. Steve Hayes has put a lot of his own personal money, running into millions of pounds, into both the Rugby Club and the Football club. The development of the sports village would have brought a lot of visitors and business into the town. I think that the Council has missed an opportunity which it will rue in later years. softly

11:19am Wed 5 Oct 11

pault34 says...

gpn01 wrote:
It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around. . If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory!
Sadly Adams Park is not satisfactory anymore as the premiership demands a 15,000 minimum stadium by 2014.
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around. . If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory![/p][/quote]Sadly Adams Park is not satisfactory anymore as the premiership demands a 15,000 minimum stadium by 2014. pault34

11:21am Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

Bye bye Steve....

Great to see you go....

It's a pitty you didn't go a lot sooner, which could have prevented vast amounts of local taxpayers money being wasted...

Shut the door on your way out...
Bye bye Steve.... Great to see you go.... It's a pitty you didn't go a lot sooner, which could have prevented vast amounts of local taxpayers money being wasted... Shut the door on your way out... A VOTER

11:35am Wed 5 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

softly wrote:
It is sad that the Rugby club has been put up for sale. Steve Hayes has put a lot of his own personal money, running into millions of pounds, into both the Rugby Club and the Football club. The development of the sports village would have brought a lot of visitors and business into the town. I think that the Council has missed an opportunity which it will rue in later years.
"put a lot of his own personal money" infers that it has been given to the Clubs. On the contrary he has provided loans and has purchased shares, from which one presumes he expects to get paid back or will have to write-off.
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Only "opportunity" that the Council missed was to kill the stadium project off at the beginning, and thereby not waste over £1/2 Million of ratepayers money in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]softly[/bold] wrote: It is sad that the Rugby club has been put up for sale. Steve Hayes has put a lot of his own personal money, running into millions of pounds, into both the Rugby Club and the Football club. The development of the sports village would have brought a lot of visitors and business into the town. I think that the Council has missed an opportunity which it will rue in later years.[/p][/quote]"put a lot of his own personal money" infers that it has been given to the Clubs. On the contrary he has provided loans and has purchased shares, from which one presumes he expects to get paid back or will have to write-off. . Only "opportunity" that the Council missed was to kill the stadium project off at the beginning, and thereby not waste over £1/2 Million of ratepayers money in the first place. gpn01

11:35am Wed 5 Oct 11

bobby698 says...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This season I have attended all the games and it is clear from the empty seats that people have voted with their feet. Yes, the current economic climate must also take some blame but their is clearly something very wrong at Wasps.
As pault34 has stated, in 2014 all Premiership clubs must have a minimum capacity far in excess of Adams Park, so something MUST happen and happen quickly.
I now have no doubt that, regrettably, Wasps will move elsewhere. Wycombe has never seemed to accept the club and any new owners will clearly see this from the gate receipts.
Kassam Stadium here we come......
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This season I have attended all the games and it is clear from the empty seats that people have voted with their feet. Yes, the current economic climate must also take some blame but their is clearly something very wrong at Wasps. As pault34 has stated, in 2014 all Premiership clubs must have a minimum capacity far in excess of Adams Park, so something MUST happen and happen quickly. I now have no doubt that, regrettably, Wasps will move elsewhere. Wycombe has never seemed to accept the club [much to their shame] and any new owners will clearly see this from the gate receipts. Kassam Stadium here we come...... bobby698

11:51am Wed 5 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

bobby698 wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This season I have attended all the games and it is clear from the empty seats that people have voted with their feet. Yes, the current economic climate must also take some blame but their is clearly something very wrong at Wasps. As pault34 has stated, in 2014 all Premiership clubs must have a minimum capacity far in excess of Adams Park, so something MUST happen and happen quickly. I now have no doubt that, regrettably, Wasps will move elsewhere. Wycombe has never seemed to accept the club and any new owners will clearly see this from the gate receipts. Kassam Stadium here we come......
A quick Google suggests that the Kassam Stadium capacity is 12,500, so surely that's also insufficient to meet the 15,000 minimum that's mentioned. Also,thought that the premiership minimum capacity requirements which were published in 2007 were subsequently dropped when it was realised how many grounds fell below the desired threshold?
[quote][p][bold]bobby698[/bold] wrote: I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This season I have attended all the games and it is clear from the empty seats that people have voted with their feet. Yes, the current economic climate must also take some blame but their is clearly something very wrong at Wasps. As pault34 has stated, in 2014 all Premiership clubs must have a minimum capacity far in excess of Adams Park, so something MUST happen and happen quickly. I now have no doubt that, regrettably, Wasps will move elsewhere. Wycombe has never seemed to accept the club [much to their shame] and any new owners will clearly see this from the gate receipts. Kassam Stadium here we come......[/p][/quote]A quick Google suggests that the Kassam Stadium capacity is 12,500, so surely that's also insufficient to meet the 15,000 minimum that's mentioned. Also,thought that the premiership minimum capacity requirements which were published in 2007 were subsequently dropped when it was realised how many grounds fell below the desired threshold? gpn01

11:51am Wed 5 Oct 11

tom.marlow2 says...

pault34 wrote:
gpn01 wrote:
It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around. . If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory!
Sadly Adams Park is not satisfactory anymore as the premiership demands a 15,000 minimum stadium by 2014.
will they still be in the premiership by then? :-)
[quote][p][bold]pault34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: It's a pity that Mr Hayes wasn't able to attend the WDC Cabinet meeting in July. The decision was to not proceed with a project for a STADIUM which possibly involved some sort of sports village. NOT the other way around. . If a buyer is found it will be their decision as to where London Wasps home ground will be. They could actualy decide that Adams Park is quite satisfactory![/p][/quote]Sadly Adams Park is not satisfactory anymore as the premiership demands a 15,000 minimum stadium by 2014.[/p][/quote]will they still be in the premiership by then? :-) tom.marlow2

11:52am Wed 5 Oct 11

Trip says...

I see. Attendances are dropping, we need a bigger capacity stadium!
I see. Attendances are dropping, we need a bigger capacity stadium! Trip

11:56am Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

Trip wrote:
I see. Attendances are dropping, we need a bigger capacity stadium!
At this rate of decline, they should aim for a capacity of 70,000
[quote][p][bold]Trip[/bold] wrote: I see. Attendances are dropping, we need a bigger capacity stadium![/p][/quote]At this rate of decline, they should aim for a capacity of 70,000 A VOTER

12:03pm Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

Go on now go,
walk out the door,
just turn around now 'cause you're not welcome anymore.
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt us with goodbye,
you think we'd crumble,
you think we'd lay down and die.
Oh no, not us,
We will survive....

Thanks Gloria....
Go on now go, walk out the door, just turn around now 'cause you're not welcome anymore. Weren't you the one who tried to hurt us with goodbye, you think we'd crumble, you think we'd lay down and die. Oh no, not us, We will survive.... Thanks Gloria.... A VOTER

12:04pm Wed 5 Oct 11

Agniesca says...

When it was planned Adams Park was designed to be expanded when necessary, I believe to 16,000. I understand that planning permission is "in train" for expansion to be permitted for 14,000.
When it was planned Adams Park was designed to be expanded when necessary, I believe to 16,000. I understand that planning permission is "in train" for expansion to be permitted for 14,000. Agniesca

12:48pm Wed 5 Oct 11

Joefish41 says...

It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead. Joefish41

12:55pm Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

Joefish41 wrote:
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
But why did they try to destroy an existing well used facility (the Booker Airfield) in the process?

There would have been fewer objections if they had chosen an empty field elsewhere, although they would have still met with resistance to wastage of taxpayers money on a private venture that would have lined the pockets of one Mr Steve Hayes.
[quote][p][bold]Joefish41[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.[/p][/quote]But why did they try to destroy an existing well used facility (the Booker Airfield) in the process? There would have been fewer objections if they had chosen an empty field elsewhere, although they would have still met with resistance to wastage of taxpayers money on a private venture that would have lined the pockets of one Mr Steve Hayes. A VOTER

12:55pm Wed 5 Oct 11

Trip says...

Joefish41 wrote:
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
What business is that then?
[quote][p][bold]Joefish41[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.[/p][/quote]What business is that then? Trip

1:00pm Wed 5 Oct 11

usvelt says...

Joefish41 wrote:
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
It would have also cost us, the local tax payer a lot more money as we would have been the fools who would have been paying for it.
No problem with rugby or football but please dont expect me to pay for it and be happy.
[quote][p][bold]Joefish41[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.[/p][/quote]It would have also cost us, the local tax payer a lot more money as we would have been the fools who would have been paying for it. No problem with rugby or football but please dont expect me to pay for it and be happy. usvelt

1:01pm Wed 5 Oct 11

gastropod says...

This story speaks volumes and comes as no surprise.

It appears blindingly obvious that Mr Hayes's real motives for owning Wasps and WW are not for the benefit of the teams, not for the benefit of the supporters and not for the benefit of the sport. It now seems very clear that his motives are for his own commercial gain in profiting from building hundreds of "little box" type houses on our valuable open land.

These ambitions - thank God - have been quashed and now there appears to be little commercial advantage for the aforementioned gentleman in trying to hijack this land, he is off-loading Wasps, and most likely WW in due course as well. this betrays his true loyalty towards the clubs which are cherished by many.

Long may Wasps prosper. Just please don't try to prosper on our land. Wasps are far better off without Mr Hayes at the helm.
This story speaks volumes and comes as no surprise. It appears blindingly obvious that Mr Hayes's real motives for owning Wasps and WW are not for the benefit of the teams, not for the benefit of the supporters and not for the benefit of the sport. It now seems very clear that his motives are for his own commercial gain in profiting from building hundreds of "little box" type houses on our valuable open land. These ambitions - thank God - have been quashed and now there appears to be little commercial advantage for the aforementioned gentleman in trying to hijack this land, he is off-loading Wasps, and most likely WW in due course as well. this betrays his true loyalty towards the clubs which are cherished by many. Long may Wasps prosper. Just please don't try to prosper on our land. Wasps are far better off without Mr Hayes at the helm. gastropod

1:21pm Wed 5 Oct 11

gungun says...

NASA are currently tracking a UFO in outer Space - Experts believe it is the Dummy spat out by Mr Hayes!
NASA are currently tracking a UFO in outer Space - Experts believe it is the Dummy spat out by Mr Hayes! gungun

1:38pm Wed 5 Oct 11

KentP says...

I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?" KentP

2:35pm Wed 5 Oct 11

geoffW says...

Let's make a couple of things clear.
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1. The stadium project would not have made that much difference to the town as most people from "outside" would have accessed the site from the motorway. There would be no need top go anywhere near the town itself.
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2. When bringing Wasps to Wycombe, and subsequently buying Wycombe Wanderers, Hayes saw the opportunity to expand using money provided by the local council. He started a charm offensive on the likes of Lesley Clarke and the council together with the new "university" (both of which think the sun shines out of his porthole).
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He could see Wanders and Wasps playing in a new Stadium which he could rent for matches and would not have to make any real investment in. He saw Adams Park as a piece of real eastate that he could ultimately sell off and thus pay back all the money he had put in, plus a lot more.
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The stadium project/sports village had very little to do with sport and more to do with making a lot of money by letting the council foot the bill.
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This was ALWAYS the intention. Do not be fooled.
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Unfortunately for Mr Hayes, he chose the wrong place to build what he refers to as HIS plans for a sports village (even though his monetary input would have been negligible).
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Hayes thought that he could walk into High Wycombe and clean up within 7 or 8 years. The plan backfired and now he is looking to get as much of his money out as he can and run away.
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Once this has been achieved Wanderers will be placed into administration. Look out for relegation because of that. If the team are relegated for (footballing reasons) this season I can see them being deducted points in the next and playing in the conference the year after ...... unless a buyer can be found who isn't using the purchase of the club as a lever to have the council build a new stadium and make money on the sale of Adams Park (full circle).
Let's make a couple of things clear. . 1. The stadium project would not have made that much difference to the town as most people from "outside" would have accessed the site from the motorway. There would be no need top go anywhere near the town itself. . 2. When bringing Wasps to Wycombe, and subsequently buying Wycombe Wanderers, Hayes saw the opportunity to expand using money provided by the local council. He started a charm offensive on the likes of Lesley Clarke and the council together with the new "university" (both of which think the sun shines out of his porthole). . He could see Wanders and Wasps playing in a new Stadium which he could rent for matches and would not have to make any real investment in. He saw Adams Park as a piece of real eastate that he could ultimately sell off and thus pay back all the money he had put in, plus a lot more. . The stadium project/sports village had very little to do with sport and more to do with making a lot of money by letting the council foot the bill. . This was ALWAYS the intention. Do not be fooled. . Unfortunately for Mr Hayes, he chose the wrong place to build what he refers to as HIS plans for a sports village (even though his monetary input would have been negligible). . Hayes thought that he could walk into High Wycombe and clean up within 7 or 8 years. The plan backfired and now he is looking to get as much of his money out as he can and run away. . Once this has been achieved Wanderers will be placed into administration. Look out for relegation because of that. If the team are relegated for (footballing reasons) this season I can see them being deducted points in the next and playing in the conference the year after ...... unless a buyer can be found who isn't using the purchase of the club as a lever to have the council build a new stadium and make money on the sale of Adams Park (full circle). geoffW

2:51pm Wed 5 Oct 11

washondo says...

Perspective?
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Sadly last night's attendance, 931.
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Expansion??
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Now we can support Wycombe Wanderers again, and hopefully keep them solvent, but I fear a spiteful repercussion.
Perspective? ~ Sadly last night's attendance, 931. ~ Expansion?? ~ Now we can support Wycombe Wanderers again, and hopefully keep them solvent, but I fear a spiteful repercussion. washondo

2:59pm Wed 5 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Only a personal opinion , but it appears that nowadays - besides those bankers, politicians and other money obsessed people - sport , but especially Soccer and Rugby firms (that's what they are) expect other people to fork out resources and money to support and subsidize them.
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That of course includes the long-suffering deep-pocketed fans who insist what the superstars get paid is 'value for money'.
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These sports 'Stars' are today's Gladiators and are treated as such . Put on pedestals , treated like gods even though they are only human and traded and bartered like slaves. Today's slave Gladiators - overpaid some would say , recruited form all over the world (there is no club loyalty nowadays - and that's not all the players fault). And loads of playes agents making money as Slave-Masters.
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Hayes is a Slave-Master - made his money through lending money to people who couldn't really afford it - and got out just before the market for that business collapsed - more by luck than judgement.
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Hayes though he saw a money spinner - for himself - subsidized by thousands of non-football fans - and made a bad case for his pet project by not doing his homework.
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Now like his ex-double-glazing business he wants out. Oh dear , what shame , what a pity , how sad. It's the fans who lose out every time, imo , with people like him running these sports firms / conglomerates.
Only a personal opinion , but it appears that nowadays - besides those bankers, politicians and other money obsessed people - sport , but especially Soccer and Rugby firms (that's what they are) expect other people to fork out resources and money to support and subsidize them. . That of course includes the long-suffering deep-pocketed fans who insist what the superstars get paid is 'value for money'. . These sports 'Stars' are today's Gladiators and are treated as such . Put on pedestals , treated like gods even though they are only human and traded and bartered like slaves. Today's slave Gladiators - overpaid some would say , recruited form all over the world (there is no club loyalty nowadays - and that's not all the players fault). And loads of playes agents making money as Slave-Masters. . Hayes is a Slave-Master - made his money through lending money to people who couldn't really afford it - and got out just before the market for that business collapsed - more by luck than judgement. . Hayes though he saw a money spinner - for himself - subsidized by thousands of non-football fans - and made a bad case for his pet project by not doing his homework. . Now like his ex-double-glazing business he wants out. Oh dear , what shame , what a pity , how sad. It's the fans who lose out every time, imo , with people like him running these sports firms / conglomerates. J B Blackett

3:08pm Wed 5 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
He's actually saying "I said FOUR packets of crisps and ONE pint of Creme de Menthe". I was there.
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]He's actually saying "I said FOUR packets of crisps and ONE pint of Creme de Menthe". I was there. J B Blackett

3:23pm Wed 5 Oct 11

geoffW says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"
"You mean you use this thing to hold a ball? I thought it was only for counting and holding money."
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]"You mean you use this thing to hold a ball? I thought it was only for counting and holding money." geoffW

3:30pm Wed 5 Oct 11

Trip says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
"Noooooooooooooooooo
oooooo!"

As he watches the ratepayer's money slip from his grasp.
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]"Noooooooooooooooooo oooooo!" As he watches the ratepayer's money slip from his grasp. Trip

3:34pm Wed 5 Oct 11

chesham20 says...

there's bound to be a sting in the tail
there's bound to be a sting in the tail chesham20

3:47pm Wed 5 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
Ive changed my mind .
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Hayes is really saying " Look ! I've burned all the fingers on my grasping right hand".
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]Ive changed my mind . . Hayes is really saying " Look ! I've burned all the fingers on my grasping right hand". J B Blackett

4:39pm Wed 5 Oct 11

gungun says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there?
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there? gungun

4:41pm Wed 5 Oct 11

gungun says...

gungun wrote:
KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there?
or - yep four fingers and one thumb - I always advise people to count their fingers after shaking hands - Especially with me
[quote][p][bold]gungun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there?[/p][/quote]or - yep four fingers and one thumb - I always advise people to count their fingers after shaking hands - Especially with me gungun

4:49pm Wed 5 Oct 11

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

gungun wrote:
gungun wrote:
KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there?
or - yep four fingers and one thumb - I always advise people to count their fingers after shaking hands - Especially with me
Brilliant!
[quote][p][bold]gungun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gungun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]You mean the stadium I really need for the attendances can fit in there?[/p][/quote]or - yep four fingers and one thumb - I always advise people to count their fingers after shaking hands - Especially with me[/p][/quote]Brilliant! Mr Totterdge Hill

4:56pm Wed 5 Oct 11

dr death says...

oh right my back handers never worked maybe i can put my hand to someother use ! yep there is only one thing u can u use it for hayes!!!! :)
oh right my back handers never worked maybe i can put my hand to someother use ! yep there is only one thing u can u use it for hayes!!!! :) dr death

5:09pm Wed 5 Oct 11

gungun says...

dr death wrote:
oh right my back handers never worked maybe i can put my hand to someother use ! yep there is only one thing u can u use it for hayes!!!! :)
waving bye bye?
[quote][p][bold]dr death[/bold] wrote: oh right my back handers never worked maybe i can put my hand to someother use ! yep there is only one thing u can u use it for hayes!!!! :)[/p][/quote]waving bye bye? gungun

5:30pm Wed 5 Oct 11

KentP says...

"what do you mean I look like Penfold? anyway Sooty, put some clothes on for god's sake!"
"what do you mean I look like Penfold? anyway Sooty, put some clothes on for god's sake!" KentP

5:48pm Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
Holding her firmly, I gazed into Clr Clarke's eyes and said lovingly, "You will give me that stadium, won't you?" And she melted in my arms and said "Yes Stevey, Anything for you"...
[quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]Holding her firmly, I gazed into Clr Clarke's eyes and said lovingly, "You will give me that stadium, won't you?" And she melted in my arms and said "Yes Stevey, Anything for you"... A VOTER

6:29pm Wed 5 Oct 11

whingefree says...

Once a loan shark, always a loan shark.

He hasn't helped either club. He has convinced the board and supporters of WW to change the constitution so that he could get his hands on the club, lend it money, and hold it to ransom.

Getting Wasps was all about the stadium development which would allow him to line his pockets with cash from housing and leisure development at the expense of the clubs.

Good riddance.

His bully boy tactics haven't worked.

Goodbye and good riddance.
Once a loan shark, always a loan shark. He hasn't helped either club. He has convinced the board and supporters of WW to change the constitution so that he could get his hands on the club, lend it money, and hold it to ransom. Getting Wasps was all about the stadium development which would allow him to line his pockets with cash from housing and leisure development at the expense of the clubs. Good riddance. His bully boy tactics haven't worked. Goodbye and good riddance. whingefree

6:45pm Wed 5 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

After his self-pitying whinge, Mr Hayes was seen to slump back in his chair and his eyes double-glazed over.
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He is a dead parasite.
After his self-pitying whinge, Mr Hayes was seen to slump back in his chair and his eyes double-glazed over. . He is a dead parasite. J B Blackett

7:25pm Wed 5 Oct 11

ivor says...

Let's hope the new owner moves them to another town far, far away so they don't bother us any more.
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Wouldn't it be great if the football team was sold to the fans?
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Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “BLOGS” link at the top of the page.
Let's hope the new owner moves them to another town far, far away so they don't bother us any more. ~ Wouldn't it be great if the football team was sold to the fans? ~ Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “BLOGS” link at the top of the page. ivor

7:47pm Wed 5 Oct 11

A VOTER says...

"Have you read Ivor's blog today? Don't bother, it's total drivel"
"Have you read Ivor's blog today? Don't bother, it's total drivel" A VOTER

8:09pm Wed 5 Oct 11

billsheppard says...

This hardly surprising news - without the stadium and housing development at Booker Airfield, London Wasps and WWFC are useless loss-making albatrosses around Steve Hayes's neck.

Two points that need taking up from people trying to paint Steve Hayes as the victim here:
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1) Steve Hayes did not plough money into WWFC, he ran up loans to himself whilst he had control over the club's finances. These were loans he was expecting to either be paid back by the club or covered by money made from the WSDL stadium company that he owned 100%. Instead, this is now a monstrous mountain of debt that no club the size of WWFC can ever reasonably expect to pay off entirely in any reasonable timescale.
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2) Although Steve Hayes dearly loved to describe his project as a 'sports village', waxing lyrical about the rugby and football pitches being laid out on the site, these weren't actually going to be funded by WSDL (or by him directly or through any other vehicles he might use). Instead, all that was certain in this project were the houses and retail units that would be funding it all and the stadium, the two points that were put into the background as they were clearly objectionable at the site. The ancillary community sports facilities would have to be funded by each sport's governing body, something which could not be taken for granted.
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Steve Hayes took a gamble with all the risk being loaded onto WWFC, London Wasps (both in real peril of going out of business, if not out of existence all together) and WDC and Bucks CC rate payers expected to pick up the tab for various aspects of this blatant attempt to fill his boots at taxpayers' expense.
This hardly surprising news - without the stadium and housing development at Booker Airfield, London Wasps and WWFC are useless loss-making albatrosses around Steve Hayes's neck. Two points that need taking up from people trying to paint Steve Hayes as the victim here: - 1) Steve Hayes did not plough money into WWFC, he ran up loans to himself whilst he had control over the club's finances. These were loans he was expecting to either be paid back by the club or covered by money made from the WSDL stadium company that he owned 100%. Instead, this is now a monstrous mountain of debt that no club the size of WWFC can ever reasonably expect to pay off entirely in any reasonable timescale. - 2) Although Steve Hayes dearly loved to describe his project as a 'sports village', waxing lyrical about the rugby and football pitches being laid out on the site, these weren't actually going to be funded by WSDL (or by him directly or through any other vehicles he might use). Instead, all that was certain in this project were the houses and retail units that would be funding it all and the stadium, the two points that were put into the background as they were clearly objectionable at the site. The ancillary community sports facilities would have to be funded by each sport's governing body, something which could not be taken for granted. - - Steve Hayes took a gamble with all the risk being loaded onto WWFC, London Wasps (both in real peril of going out of business, if not out of existence all together) and WDC and Bucks CC rate payers expected to pick up the tab for various aspects of this blatant attempt to fill his boots at taxpayers' expense. billsheppard

10:05pm Wed 5 Oct 11

readerabc says...

byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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close the door on your way out Mr hayes
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee close the door on your way out Mr hayes readerabc

2:05am Thu 6 Oct 11

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

A VOTER wrote:
KentP wrote:
I invoke a caption competition on that picture...
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"where did my sandwich go?"
Holding her firmly, I gazed into Clr Clarke's eyes and said lovingly, "You will give me that stadium, won't you?" And she melted in my arms and said "Yes Stevey, Anything for you"...
...as long as my husbands company gets a big chunk of stuff and they don't see that Beeks don't get the building contract...

I can't believe that people actually believe that Hayes put a penny of his own money into WASP's...

Adams Park was designed to be extended seating wise... He only want's more of other peoples money to continue his rise to... well let's hope one day it's prison.
[quote][p][bold]A VOTER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentP[/bold] wrote: I invoke a caption competition on that picture... . "where did my sandwich go?"[/p][/quote]Holding her firmly, I gazed into Clr Clarke's eyes and said lovingly, "You will give me that stadium, won't you?" And she melted in my arms and said "Yes Stevey, Anything for you"...[/p][/quote]...as long as my husbands company gets a big chunk of stuff and they don't see that Beeks don't get the building contract... I can't believe that people actually believe that Hayes put a penny of his own money into WASP's... Adams Park was designed to be extended seating wise... He only want's more of other peoples money to continue his rise to... well let's hope one day it's prison. Mr Totterdge Hill

12:05pm Thu 6 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change!

Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not!

Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean!
Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change! Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not! Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean! percypig69

12:34pm Thu 6 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

percypig69 wrote:
Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change! Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not! Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean!
In order for something to be considered an "investment" there's an expectation that the return sufficiently compensates for the return. A lesson that Swansea Council has learned the hard way is that spending money on a stadium is a high risk with zero return.
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You can argue all you like about how aanother stadium would generate jobs but the reality is that the proposal would ghave destroyed many jobs too. Research in the USA about the impact of a new stadium confirms that, perhaps surprisingly, a new stadium ADVERSELY affects the SocioEconomic situation. Apparently this is because the old, professional/well-pa
id jobs, are replaced by new, low grade/low paid ones.
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change! Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not! Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean![/p][/quote]In order for something to be considered an "investment" there's an expectation that the return sufficiently compensates for the return. A lesson that Swansea Council has learned the hard way is that spending money on a stadium is a high risk with zero return. . You can argue all you like about how aanother stadium would generate jobs but the reality is that the proposal would ghave destroyed many jobs too. Research in the USA about the impact of a new stadium confirms that, perhaps surprisingly, a new stadium ADVERSELY affects the SocioEconomic situation. Apparently this is because the old, professional/well-pa id jobs, are replaced by new, low grade/low paid ones. gpn01

12:50pm Thu 6 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me.

I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town.

People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!!

God bless High Wycombe!
Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe! percypig69

1:10pm Thu 6 Oct 11

JimBean says...

percypig69 wrote:
Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe!
I agree with your comments percy

Wycombe council are deluded our town has always been behind the times and it seems always will be.

A town the size of high wycombe and only in recent years have we had a bowling alley and cinema in the town centre. Eden is good but sadly arrived 10years too late. It will get to the point where wycombe will be a commuter town for London and nothing will keep us on the map. Having a good quality sports facility with a good rugby team and an average football team will help to keep us on the radar and not a forgotton town.
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe![/p][/quote]I agree with your comments percy Wycombe council are deluded our town has always been behind the times and it seems always will be. A town the size of high wycombe and only in recent years have we had a bowling alley and cinema in the town centre. Eden is good but sadly arrived 10years too late. It will get to the point where wycombe will be a commuter town for London and nothing will keep us on the map. Having a good quality sports facility with a good rugby team and an average football team will help to keep us on the radar and not a forgotton town. JimBean

1:13pm Thu 6 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

percypig69 wrote:
Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe!
The problem is that for some people it's not easy to consider both perspectives of an argument.
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As an example charity shops....if you're on a low income then charity shops may be the only way that you can afford clothes, furniture, etc.
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What's progress to one person is vandalism to another...replace an old building and you're destroying heritage vs providing a modern facility.
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You're right that people are often opposed to change, and indeed some people refuse change as a kneejerk reaction. At the other end of the scale one shouldn't assume that change is, by default, automatically a good idea. It's also often the case that a change may benefit some, whilst disadvantaging others.
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe![/p][/quote]The problem is that for some people it's not easy to consider both perspectives of an argument. . As an example charity shops....if you're on a low income then charity shops may be the only way that you can afford clothes, furniture, etc. . What's progress to one person is vandalism to another...replace an old building and you're destroying heritage vs providing a modern facility. . You're right that people are often opposed to change, and indeed some people refuse change as a kneejerk reaction. At the other end of the scale one shouldn't assume that change is, by default, automatically a good idea. It's also often the case that a change may benefit some, whilst disadvantaging others. gpn01

1:25pm Thu 6 Oct 11

JimBean says...

gpn01 wrote:
percypig69 wrote: Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe!
The problem is that for some people it's not easy to consider both perspectives of an argument. . As an example charity shops....if you're on a low income then charity shops may be the only way that you can afford clothes, furniture, etc. . What's progress to one person is vandalism to another...replace an old building and you're destroying heritage vs providing a modern facility. . You're right that people are often opposed to change, and indeed some people refuse change as a kneejerk reaction. At the other end of the scale one shouldn't assume that change is, by default, automatically a good idea. It's also often the case that a change may benefit some, whilst disadvantaging others.
I understand your comments about needing to provide for low income households. The problem is people in wycombe who work for a living don't tend to be on low income, the house prices in our area are too expensive for people to be considered low income households aswell as the nearby employment oppertunities in London.

The charity and 99p shops are only helping the 'young families' or 'single mums' claiming on the social. Charity and 99p shops just clutter a high street, im not against raising money for charity don't get me wrong but I don't think the plans to build eden opened the high street up for charity shops, 99p stores and nasty burger vans. There were plans for a bingo hall to go in to replace woolworths but id have rather that than a 99p store and Iceland! I'll never step foot in anywhere endorsed by Kerry Katona! Theyve built a hotel in wycombe centre and why?! Late night shopping in the 99p store or maybe to go to the bowling alley and cinema that closes at like 10pm.

Wycombe is a dying town, most people I know have escaped and I won't be far behind them
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Very good and valid point gpn01, you have obviously researched the situation in far greater detail than me. I just wanted to emphasise the point that the good old stubborn folk of High Wycombe are too busy poking their stuffy beaks in to stop the evolution of the town, rather than sitting back and taking a good look at the current state of THEIR town. People are too quick to oppose new developments proposed to make High Wycombe a better place, No to the University, No to Eden, No to the Snow Dome, no to the Sports Park........but YES to more Charity Shops, YES to more grotty 99p outlets and YES to more CRIME!! God bless High Wycombe![/p][/quote]The problem is that for some people it's not easy to consider both perspectives of an argument. . As an example charity shops....if you're on a low income then charity shops may be the only way that you can afford clothes, furniture, etc. . What's progress to one person is vandalism to another...replace an old building and you're destroying heritage vs providing a modern facility. . You're right that people are often opposed to change, and indeed some people refuse change as a kneejerk reaction. At the other end of the scale one shouldn't assume that change is, by default, automatically a good idea. It's also often the case that a change may benefit some, whilst disadvantaging others.[/p][/quote]I understand your comments about needing to provide for low income households. The problem is people in wycombe who work for a living don't tend to be on low income, the house prices in our area are too expensive for people to be considered low income households aswell as the nearby employment oppertunities in London. The charity and 99p shops are only helping the 'young families' or 'single mums' claiming on the social. Charity and 99p shops just clutter a high street, im not against raising money for charity don't get me wrong but I don't think the plans to build eden opened the high street up for charity shops, 99p stores and nasty burger vans. There were plans for a bingo hall to go in to replace woolworths but id have rather that than a 99p store and Iceland! I'll never step foot in anywhere endorsed by Kerry Katona! Theyve built a hotel in wycombe centre and why?! Late night shopping in the 99p store or maybe to go to the bowling alley and cinema that closes at like 10pm. Wycombe is a dying town, most people I know have escaped and I won't be far behind them JimBean

1:34pm Thu 6 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points.

Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets.

Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it.

Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame!
Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame! percypig69

1:53pm Thu 6 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Towns / cities all over the UK are 'dying' ; it was ever so - but is made worse through politics. Have a look around if think it's only Wycombe - which is growing in some areas. Why's that then ?
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Banbury - a smaller demographic area than Wycombe - has 70 percent more charity shops. In just one town street there are 9. I don't know how many there are in Oxford but I bet it's more than Wycombe.
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Go further north is you want to see towns that at really 'dying' or even dead with only subsistence or unskilled jobs on offer.
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Be thankful for what you have in this area of South Bucks - a relatively affluent town / area with or without a rugby football team with dodgy people owning it.
Towns / cities all over the UK are 'dying' ; it was ever so - but is made worse through politics. Have a look around if think it's only Wycombe - which is growing in some areas. Why's that then ? . Banbury - a smaller demographic area than Wycombe - has 70 percent more charity shops. In just one town street there are 9. I don't know how many there are in Oxford but I bet it's more than Wycombe. . Go further north is you want to see towns that at really 'dying' or even dead with only subsistence or unskilled jobs on offer. . Be thankful for what you have in this area of South Bucks - a relatively affluent town / area with or without a rugby football team with dodgy people owning it. J B Blackett

1:53pm Thu 6 Oct 11

Trip says...

The only opportunity Steve Hayes was offereing was to line his own pockets with our money.
The only opportunity Steve Hayes was offereing was to line his own pockets with our money. Trip

1:57pm Thu 6 Oct 11

washondo says...

percypig69 wrote:
Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change!

Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not!

Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean!
Was that "investing the local taxpayers' money" or SPECULATING with the local taxpayers' money? Can you see the mis-spent £M1/2 of ratepayers' money being recovered, when or even if the loss-making Wasps is sold? Perhaps you should stop flying off at a tangent from the subject of the article. We already have Ivor to hate.
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What is your problem? If you don't like High Wycombe, then leave. If you have energy to spare for your SPORT obsession, you might consider diverting it to something more socially worthwhile like charitable WORK.
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Yes what a fantastic idea! Instead of investing the local taxpayers money into local sport and developing a local sports complex to create a lot more jobs for the town, let's instead spend our hard earned money on shipping more freeloading undesirables into the area and pay for their free medical care. The town of High Wycombe is becoming a mockery, people need to get real and accept change! Oh and one more thing.....I wonder if all those die hard London Wasps fans will be cruising down the M40 in their executive gas guzzlers to watch the Wasps play at Loftus Road or better still donning their best winter jackets down the wreck to support HWRC on a cold, windy Saturday afternoon once the Wasps have left? I think not! Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Ivor, I'm after your position as chief blog writer on the BFP old bean![/p][/quote]Was that "investing the local taxpayers' money" or SPECULATING with the local taxpayers' money? Can you see the mis-spent £M1/2 of ratepayers' money being recovered, when or even if the loss-making Wasps is sold? Perhaps you should stop flying off at a tangent from the subject of the article. We already have Ivor to hate. ~ What is your problem? If you don't like High Wycombe, then leave. If you have energy to spare for your SPORT obsession, you might consider diverting it to something more socially worthwhile like charitable WORK. washondo

2:01pm Thu 6 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

percypig69 wrote:
Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points.

Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets.

Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it.

Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame!
Yes , the people of Chicago were eternally grateful to Al Capone when he chose their town for his 'business'.
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You can't please everybody it would seem.
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Wakefield now has a 50p shop - it's getting tougher out there. But what bargains and mostly made in China. Cheaper than chips (which are not as affordable as they used to be).
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame![/p][/quote]Yes , the people of Chicago were eternally grateful to Al Capone when he chose their town for his 'business'. . You can't please everybody it would seem. . PS Wakefield now has a 50p shop - it's getting tougher out there. But what bargains and mostly made in China. Cheaper than chips (which are not as affordable as they used to be). J B Blackett

2:01pm Thu 6 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

percypig69 wrote:
Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame!
Out of interest, how do you think "he" was offering new opportunities, given that it was WDC who was expected to spend the money on building a new stadium?
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Simple laws of supply & demand will dictate the type and variety of shops you'll find in a town. If there's no demand for a Gucci goods then it's unlikely that Gucci is going to open a shop in High Wycombe.
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Often the reason why a town has so many 99p and charity shops is because the landlords of the properties would rather receive some income than none at all. Would you prefer to see many of the existing charity shops empty and boarded up?
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame![/p][/quote]Out of interest, how do you think "he" was offering new opportunities, given that it was WDC who was expected to spend the money on building a new stadium? . Simple laws of supply & demand will dictate the type and variety of shops you'll find in a town. If there's no demand for a Gucci goods then it's unlikely that Gucci is going to open a shop in High Wycombe. . Often the reason why a town has so many 99p and charity shops is because the landlords of the properties would rather receive some income than none at all. Would you prefer to see many of the existing charity shops empty and boarded up? gpn01

2:02pm Thu 6 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

percypig69 wrote:
Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame!
Out of interest, how do you think "he" was offering new opportunities, given that it was WDC who was expected to spend the money on building a new stadium?
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Simple laws of supply & demand will dictate the type and variety of shops you'll find in a town. If there's no demand for a Gucci goods then it's unlikely that Gucci is going to open a shop in High Wycombe.
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Often the reason why a town has so many 99p and charity shops is because the landlords of the properties would rather receive some income than none at all. Would you prefer to see many of the existing charity shops empty and boarded up?
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: Again gnp01 perfectly vaild points. Yes charity shops can be a good thing, but for one town to possess in excess of 10 charity shops is ridiculous. Likewise a 99p shop is a fantastic idea, but to have your High Street lined in them is not required. Furthermore, why do we need so many pizza delivery and fried chicken outlets. Maybe the fat cat that is Steve Hayes needs to invest in some good old fashion fried chicken shops, that would get the people of High Wycombe on his side and he could boost the size of his already bursting wallet whilst at it. Good on Steve Hayes for trying to offer new opportunities to our town, just seems like you picked the wrong town......such a shame![/p][/quote]Out of interest, how do you think "he" was offering new opportunities, given that it was WDC who was expected to spend the money on building a new stadium? . Simple laws of supply & demand will dictate the type and variety of shops you'll find in a town. If there's no demand for a Gucci goods then it's unlikely that Gucci is going to open a shop in High Wycombe. . Often the reason why a town has so many 99p and charity shops is because the landlords of the properties would rather receive some income than none at all. Would you prefer to see many of the existing charity shops empty and boarded up? gpn01

2:32pm Thu 6 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

I have obviously ruffled the extremely colourful feathers of a few of our lovely charity shop goers.

Didn't mean to offend anyone, just thought it was freedom of speech on here where people were aloud to express their opinion...but obviously that is not allowed! I think the readers of the BFP are being brainwashed by some form of modern day Hitler, I hate to break it to you very fair people but I do not have blonde hair and blue eyes, please don't gas me!

I do not care about Banbury, or any other comparable demographic. I care about High Wycombe and am shocked at how the so called locals are allowing the town to be run. Maybe Steve Hayes was not the saviour of the town but at least he had some innovative ideas!
I have obviously ruffled the extremely colourful feathers of a few of our lovely charity shop goers. Didn't mean to offend anyone, just thought it was freedom of speech on here where people were aloud to express their opinion...but obviously that is not allowed! I think the readers of the BFP are being brainwashed by some form of modern day Hitler, I hate to break it to you very fair people but I do not have blonde hair and blue eyes, please don't gas me! I do not care about Banbury, or any other comparable demographic. I care about High Wycombe and am shocked at how the so called locals are allowing the town to be run. Maybe Steve Hayes was not the saviour of the town but at least he had some innovative ideas! percypig69

2:46pm Thu 6 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

percypig69 wrote:
I have obviously ruffled the extremely colourful feathers of a few of our lovely charity shop goers. Didn't mean to offend anyone, just thought it was freedom of speech on here where people were aloud to express their opinion...but obviously that is not allowed! I think the readers of the BFP are being brainwashed by some form of modern day Hitler, I hate to break it to you very fair people but I do not have blonde hair and blue eyes, please don't gas me! I do not care about Banbury, or any other comparable demographic. I care about High Wycombe and am shocked at how the so called locals are allowing the town to be run. Maybe Steve Hayes was not the saviour of the town but at least he had some innovative ideas!
I think that everybody is entitled to their opinion. I don't feel that anything I've said is intended to stifle, but is in fact to stimulate, discussion.
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I'm sure if you did a competition for people of High Wycome to come up with ideas about how to spend £31 Million of ratepayers money there'd be ideas far more innovative than "build me a new stadium".
[quote][p][bold]percypig69[/bold] wrote: I have obviously ruffled the extremely colourful feathers of a few of our lovely charity shop goers. Didn't mean to offend anyone, just thought it was freedom of speech on here where people were aloud to express their opinion...but obviously that is not allowed! I think the readers of the BFP are being brainwashed by some form of modern day Hitler, I hate to break it to you very fair people but I do not have blonde hair and blue eyes, please don't gas me! I do not care about Banbury, or any other comparable demographic. I care about High Wycombe and am shocked at how the so called locals are allowing the town to be run. Maybe Steve Hayes was not the saviour of the town but at least he had some innovative ideas![/p][/quote]I think that everybody is entitled to their opinion. I don't feel that anything I've said is intended to stifle, but is in fact to stimulate, discussion. . I'm sure if you did a competition for people of High Wycome to come up with ideas about how to spend £31 Million of ratepayers money there'd be ideas far more innovative than "build me a new stadium". gpn01

3:07pm Thu 6 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

What a fantastic idea gpn01, however I'm pretty sure WDC would shoot down any idea other than building £20M of social housing for scumbags and using the other £11M to keep them happy.

Anyway, we divulge from the matter of this story. Lets hope that the incoming owner of the Wasps is a good person with great ethics and does everything to keep the club within the town, but foremost keeps the interests of the High Wycombe folk in mind.

Rumour has it Sheikh Al Maktoum's super yacht had just been spotted in the marina at Bourne End, and further sightings have seen him enjoying a spot of lunch with Paul Daniels and Bruce Forsyth....
What a fantastic idea gpn01, however I'm pretty sure WDC would shoot down any idea other than building £20M of social housing for scumbags and using the other £11M to keep them happy. Anyway, we divulge from the matter of this story. Lets hope that the incoming owner of the Wasps is a good person with great ethics and does everything to keep the club within the town, but foremost keeps the interests of the High Wycombe folk in mind. Rumour has it Sheikh Al Maktoum's super yacht had just been spotted in the marina at Bourne End, and further sightings have seen him enjoying a spot of lunch with Paul Daniels and Bruce Forsyth.... percypig69

3:49pm Thu 6 Oct 11

JimBean says...

It seems Percy is a bit of a keyboard warrior.

You make a good point about the housing, Wycombe council keep popping up houses and flats all over the place but I just don't understand what all these people are meant to do with their time? What has wycombe got to offer people? I don't see the attraction unless of course they like spotty chavs..

I had dinner with Paul Daniels the other night Brucie couldn't attend though..
It seems Percy is a bit of a keyboard warrior. You make a good point about the housing, Wycombe council keep popping up houses and flats all over the place but I just don't understand what all these people are meant to do with their time? What has wycombe got to offer people? I don't see the attraction unless of course they like spotty chavs.. I had dinner with Paul Daniels the other night Brucie couldn't attend though.. JimBean

5:59pm Thu 6 Oct 11

washondo says...

Oh dear - best not "divulge" any more then. Time waster. Come back Ivor.
Oh dear - best not "divulge" any more then. Time waster. Come back Ivor. washondo

8:43pm Thu 6 Oct 11

Firm Bottom says...

These sad comments, revelling in the bad news, show what small minded, petty people live in this area and read this newspaper.

You ought to be ashamed but no doubt revel in you mire!
These sad comments, revelling in the bad news, show what small minded, petty people live in this area and read this newspaper. You ought to be ashamed but no doubt revel in you mire! Firm Bottom

9:33pm Thu 6 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Steve Hayes ? What ? A shady self-interested greedy dodgy dealer ?
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And all you Wycombe people - consider yourselves well and truly told off and put in your rightfully deserved place by Firm Bottom. No argument there.
Steve Hayes ? What ? A shady self-interested greedy dodgy dealer ? . And all you Wycombe people - consider yourselves well and truly told off and put in your rightfully deserved place by Firm Bottom. No argument there. J B Blackett

10:17am Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place.

I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town.

We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex... JimBean

10:19am Fri 7 Oct 11

usvelt says...

Firm Bottom wrote:
These sad comments, revelling in the bad news, show what small minded, petty people live in this area and read this newspaper.

You ought to be ashamed but no doubt revel in you mire!
Is that the mire of not having to shell out our cash for this dhady dealer?
[quote][p][bold]Firm Bottom[/bold] wrote: These sad comments, revelling in the bad news, show what small minded, petty people live in this area and read this newspaper. You ought to be ashamed but no doubt revel in you mire![/p][/quote]Is that the mire of not having to shell out our cash for this dhady dealer? usvelt

11:31am Fri 7 Oct 11

percypig69 says...

Oh blimey! Tellings off galore, I am ever so sorry Mrs Washondo for using the incorrect word. Bring out the cane!

It would appear that you are in fact the time waster Mrs Washondo for posting your pointless gumph about mis-use of the English language!

Oh and did you not know? Ivor has his own blog now, so feel free to go read that if you are missing him.

Anyway, any update on the Wasps/Steve "Baron Greenback" Hayes saga?

P.S. Apologies in advance for any mis-used words, mis-spelt words or gramatical errors.
Oh blimey! Tellings off galore, I am ever so sorry Mrs Washondo for using the incorrect word. Bring out the cane! It would appear that you are in fact the time waster Mrs Washondo for posting your pointless gumph about mis-use of the English language! Oh and did you not know? Ivor has his own blog now, so feel free to go read that if you are missing him. Anyway, any update on the Wasps/Steve "Baron Greenback" Hayes saga? P.S. Apologies in advance for any mis-used words, mis-spelt words or gramatical errors. percypig69

12:41pm Fri 7 Oct 11

BOOKERite says...

JimBean wrote:
I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place.

I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town.

We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports.
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Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have:
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a badminton centre at Crest Road
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Cressex synthetic football and sports centre
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football pitches on the recreation ground
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Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs
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indoor bowls at Handy Cross
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martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road
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2 running clubs at Cressex
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squash at Booker Airpark
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These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about! BOOKERite

12:57pm Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite.

Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern.

Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
[quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point JimBean

1:03pm Fri 7 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

JimBean wrote:
BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
Don't recall a gym shown on the Booker proposal, nor a swimming pool. So you'd still be no better off would you? Whereas all of the facilities are available already at Handy Cross and Marlow Sports Centres.
[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point[/p][/quote]Don't recall a gym shown on the Booker proposal, nor a swimming pool. So you'd still be no better off would you? Whereas all of the facilities are available already at Handy Cross and Marlow Sports Centres. gpn01

1:22pm Fri 7 Oct 11

BOOKERite says...

gpn01 wrote:
JimBean wrote:
BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
Don't recall a gym shown on the Booker proposal, nor a swimming pool. So you'd still be no better off would you? Whereas all of the facilities are available already at Handy Cross and Marlow Sports Centres.
With repsect Mr Bean, you were implying that Wycombe does not have any sports facilities and we would all become morbidly obese, I was just informing you of some of the facilities in my immediate area alone.
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And by the way if you wanted to play tennis or badminton, go the the gym and then have swim they are all within walking distance.
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point[/p][/quote]Don't recall a gym shown on the Booker proposal, nor a swimming pool. So you'd still be no better off would you? Whereas all of the facilities are available already at Handy Cross and Marlow Sports Centres.[/p][/quote]With repsect Mr Bean, you were implying that Wycombe does not have any sports facilities and we would all become morbidly obese, I was just informing you of some of the facilities in my immediate area alone. . And by the way if you wanted to play tennis or badminton, go the the gym and then have swim they are all within walking distance. BOOKERite

1:24pm Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been.
There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been. JimBean

1:43pm Fri 7 Oct 11

gpn01 says...

JimBean wrote:
There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been.
Agree entirely....Yes, it should be considered.
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There is a trade-off between a single location option (shared facilities for example) and the potential challenges that it would pose - e.g. everybody converging on one site, need for good transport links, etc.
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The converse of a 'sports village' is something that also needs to be considered in order to ensure fair play to everybody in the District and not just those in one area. That too is being considered as it forms part of the WDC five year sports facilities plan.
[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely....Yes, it should be considered. . There is a trade-off between a single location option (shared facilities for example) and the potential challenges that it would pose - e.g. everybody converging on one site, need for good transport links, etc. . The converse of a 'sports village' is something that also needs to be considered in order to ensure fair play to everybody in the District and not just those in one area. That too is being considered as it forms part of the WDC five year sports facilities plan. gpn01

2:20pm Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

gpn01 wrote:
JimBean wrote: There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been.
Agree entirely....Yes, it should be considered. . There is a trade-off between a single location option (shared facilities for example) and the potential challenges that it would pose - e.g. everybody converging on one site, need for good transport links, etc. . The converse of a 'sports village' is something that also needs to be considered in order to ensure fair play to everybody in the District and not just those in one area. That too is being considered as it forms part of the WDC five year sports facilities plan.
I completely agree with what your saying. It does need serious planning and theres alot to be taken into consideration for it to work.

I feel having the football/rugby stadium on the site of Handy cross will work and then moving a sports village to another site will be the way forward
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: There may not have been a gym or a sports facility mentioned on the plan, im not saying the plan was perfect and it should be built. All im saying something along the lines or a 'sports village' needs to be seriously considered. Everything on one site. Not having to use facilities all over the town and facilities that are frankly out of date and has been.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely....Yes, it should be considered. . There is a trade-off between a single location option (shared facilities for example) and the potential challenges that it would pose - e.g. everybody converging on one site, need for good transport links, etc. . The converse of a 'sports village' is something that also needs to be considered in order to ensure fair play to everybody in the District and not just those in one area. That too is being considered as it forms part of the WDC five year sports facilities plan.[/p][/quote]I completely agree with what your saying. It does need serious planning and theres alot to be taken into consideration for it to work. I feel having the football/rugby stadium on the site of Handy cross will work and then moving a sports village to another site will be the way forward JimBean

2:49pm Fri 7 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

JimBean wrote:
BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite.

Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern.

Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there.
.
I may be misunderstanding.
[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point[/p][/quote]Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there. . I may be misunderstanding. J B Blackett

3:30pm Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

J B Blackett wrote:
JimBean wrote:
BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there. . I may be misunderstanding.
Wheres the misunderstanding?

Are you saying because I excersise and do sports im supposed to walk everywhere?

So lets say for example I play squash with a work colleague straight from work up at booker, then meant to be meeting my other half at the gym and for a swim im meant to walk to all these places?

I think the whole topic is going a bit far and some of these questions are just stupid, gpn01 is the only person here that seems to talk logic and realise that this is something that should be considered.
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point[/p][/quote]Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there. . I may be misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]Wheres the misunderstanding? Are you saying because I excersise and do sports im supposed to walk everywhere? So lets say for example I play squash with a work colleague straight from work up at booker, then meant to be meeting my other half at the gym and for a swim im meant to walk to all these places? I think the whole topic is going a bit far and some of these questions are just stupid, gpn01 is the only person here that seems to talk logic and realise that this is something that should be considered. JimBean

3:44pm Fri 7 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

That's your opinion.
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Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough.
That's your opinion. . Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough. J B Blackett

3:56pm Fri 7 Oct 11

JimBean says...

J B Blackett wrote:
That's your opinion. . Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough.
Well im assuming when I mentioned driving to places, you expected people to walk everywhere? You can't expect people to walk half way across town to other sporting facilities.
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: That's your opinion. . Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough.[/p][/quote]Well im assuming when I mentioned driving to places, you expected people to walk everywhere? You can't expect people to walk half way across town to other sporting facilities. JimBean

4:18pm Fri 7 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Not after a hard day's work , certainly not. And then playing squash, then going to the Gym then going for a swim. No - that would be too far too much.
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For me anyway. Perhaps I'm too lazy or not that keen on doing all those pursuits. Sorry.
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Mind you I have watched the Triathlon athletes and thought 'I wish I could do that'.
Not after a hard day's work , certainly not. And then playing squash, then going to the Gym then going for a swim. No - that would be too far too much. . For me anyway. Perhaps I'm too lazy or not that keen on doing all those pursuits. Sorry. . Mind you I have watched the Triathlon athletes and thought 'I wish I could do that'. J B Blackett

5:27pm Fri 7 Oct 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

JimBean wrote:
J B Blackett wrote:
JimBean wrote:
BOOKERite wrote:
JimBean wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...
We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about!
With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point
Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there. . I may be misunderstanding.
Wheres the misunderstanding?

Are you saying because I excersise and do sports im supposed to walk everywhere?

So lets say for example I play squash with a work colleague straight from work up at booker, then meant to be meeting my other half at the gym and for a swim im meant to walk to all these places?

I think the whole topic is going a bit far and some of these questions are just stupid, gpn01 is the only person here that seems to talk logic and realise that this is something that should be considered.
It was considered and considered to be stupid.
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What no one on this thread has seemed to have mentioned is that the build was on green belt and that is strictly a no, no.
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The other amenity we have in Wycombe is an Airpark; helicopter and aeroplane training, shooting range.
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There is plenty of sports facilities in the area (happy to list them) and yes the Handy Cross sports centre could do with re-development (it's some 40 years old and a tad tried), but you don't have to have a Laura Ashley styled or Gucci high-fashion facility, staffed by Amazons all blinged up to get fit.
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The vast majority of fit people have will do 1 to 1.5 hours on 2 or three occasions a week. Having a Squash, gym then swim marathon is for a handful of people, who the majority do not need to and should not have to pay out tax payers money for. Fact!
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Please don't try to role a trendy restaurant, bar or coffee shop into a sports complex, it doesn't work unless you are Milton Keynes, have a snow dome and surround it in a shopping centre, resturants, bars etc.
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High Wycombe has planning permission for a snow dome, but as yet the owners feel the economic conditions aren't conducive to a viable enterprise, probably because of the few retail outlets in the plan and the realisation by our society that we can not spend our way to economic prosperity,...eventu
ally some-one has to pay and we are all doing so now!
...
Charity shops ful-fill a niche and provide a service. Pound shops are often needed by the needy and perhaps most people making comments on this article could say "there for the grace of God go I".
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I'm not particularly religious, but I will think on that while hopefully enjoying the weekend.
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Perhaps you will too?
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[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BOOKERite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: I feel very 'told off' by Mr or Mrs Firm Bottom and feel ive been put firmly in my place. I apologise profusely for my derogatory comments towards the town of High Wycombe I didn't mean to offend anyone. These are just my views on this pitiful town. We'll all just sit in the pubs and the greasy food outlets until we become morbidly obese as we do not have our sports complex...[/p][/quote]We do have our sports complex, it is called Handy Cross. OK it's not perfect but WDC have promised to rebuild it instead of putting our money into a rugby and football stadium - two spectator sports. . Also, in Booker and Cressex alone we have: . a badminton centre at Crest Road . Cressex synthetic football and sports centre . football pitches on the recreation ground . Wycombe judo centre and gym clubs . indoor bowls at Handy Cross . martial arts and self defence clubs at Cressex, Booker Common and Crest Road . 2 running clubs at Cressex . squash at Booker Airpark . These are just the Booker and Cressex sports ammenities that I know about - I am sure that there are many more. So with respect Mr. Bean, I don't think you really know what you are talking about![/p][/quote]With all due respect you have missed the point Bookerite. Handy cross is a dive I would rather drive to another town and use their swimming and sporting facilities. Im talking about a sports complex ie everything on the same site and nice and modern. Its a bit far fetched to have everything spread all over the place like that, what if i wanted to go play tennis or badminton, then go into the gym then for a swim? Id have to drive across town to 3 different sites? That is my point[/p][/quote]Drive ? To go and exercise ? In 3 different places in the same town ? Something doesn't quite fit or compute there. . I may be misunderstanding.[/p][/quote]Wheres the misunderstanding? Are you saying because I excersise and do sports im supposed to walk everywhere? So lets say for example I play squash with a work colleague straight from work up at booker, then meant to be meeting my other half at the gym and for a swim im meant to walk to all these places? I think the whole topic is going a bit far and some of these questions are just stupid, gpn01 is the only person here that seems to talk logic and realise that this is something that should be considered.[/p][/quote]It was considered and considered to be stupid. ... What no one on this thread has seemed to have mentioned is that the build was on green belt and that is strictly a no, no. ... The other amenity we have in Wycombe is an Airpark; helicopter and aeroplane training, shooting range. ... There is plenty of sports facilities in the area (happy to list them) and yes the Handy Cross sports centre could do with re-development (it's some 40 years old and a tad tried), but you don't have to have a Laura Ashley styled or Gucci high-fashion facility, staffed by Amazons all blinged up to get fit. ... The vast majority of fit people have will do 1 to 1.5 hours on 2 or three occasions a week. Having a Squash, gym then swim marathon is for a handful of people, who the majority do not need to and should not have to pay out tax payers money for. Fact! ... Please don't try to role a trendy restaurant, bar or coffee shop into a sports complex, it doesn't work unless you are Milton Keynes, have a snow dome and surround it in a shopping centre, resturants, bars etc. ... High Wycombe has planning permission for a snow dome, but as yet the owners feel the economic conditions aren't conducive to a viable enterprise, probably because of the few retail outlets in the plan and the realisation by our society that we can not spend our way to economic prosperity,...eventu ally some-one has to pay and we are all doing so now! ... Charity shops ful-fill a niche and provide a service. Pound shops are often needed by the needy and perhaps most people making comments on this article could say "there for the grace of God go I". ... I'm not particularly religious, but I will think on that while hopefully enjoying the weekend. ... Perhaps you will too? ... TheHorsesMouth

5:35pm Fri 7 Oct 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

After reading all those comments I forgot to say:
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I'm very happy that Mr Hayes is (hopefully) removing himself fully from Wasps and I hope it proves to be a wise move for all concerned.
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I wish Wasps the very best and hope their performance improves through what could be a turbulent time. The team just need to focus on what they are paid for and enjoying playing Rugby, a wonderful sport. Don't let yourself get diverted by what is happening in the 'Boardroom' lads; take it from me that I've been in a lot of boardrooms and the occupants are often the biggest bunch of children that you wouldn't believe.
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All the best for Wanders too. You've moved up, you need to fight hard to stay there and move forward if you can. It's all to play for.
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Both teams have it in their capacity to make Wycombe, it's hinterland and beyond, very proud.
After reading all those comments I forgot to say: ... I'm very happy that Mr Hayes is (hopefully) removing himself fully from Wasps and I hope it proves to be a wise move for all concerned. ... I wish Wasps the very best and hope their performance improves through what could be a turbulent time. The team just need to focus on what they are paid for and enjoying playing Rugby, a wonderful sport. Don't let yourself get diverted by what is happening in the 'Boardroom' lads; take it from me that I've been in a lot of boardrooms and the occupants are often the biggest bunch of children that you wouldn't believe. ... All the best for Wanders too. You've moved up, you need to fight hard to stay there and move forward if you can. It's all to play for. ... Both teams have it in their capacity to make Wycombe, it's hinterland and beyond, very proud. TheHorsesMouth

5:36pm Fri 7 Oct 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

After reading all those comments I forgot to say:
...
I'm very happy that Mr Hayes is (hopefully) removing himself fully from Wasps and I hope it proves to be a wise move for all concerned.
...
I wish Wasps the very best and hope their performance improves through what could be a turbulent time. The team just need to focus on what they are paid for and enjoying playing Rugby, a wonderful sport. Don't let yourself get diverted by what is happening in the 'Boardroom' lads; take it from me that I've been in a lot of boardrooms and the occupants are often the biggest bunch of children that you wouldn't believe.
...
All the best for Wanders too. You've moved up, you need to fight hard to stay there and move forward if you can. It's all to play for.
...
Both teams have it in their capacity to make Wycombe, it's hinterland and beyond, very proud.
After reading all those comments I forgot to say: ... I'm very happy that Mr Hayes is (hopefully) removing himself fully from Wasps and I hope it proves to be a wise move for all concerned. ... I wish Wasps the very best and hope their performance improves through what could be a turbulent time. The team just need to focus on what they are paid for and enjoying playing Rugby, a wonderful sport. Don't let yourself get diverted by what is happening in the 'Boardroom' lads; take it from me that I've been in a lot of boardrooms and the occupants are often the biggest bunch of children that you wouldn't believe. ... All the best for Wanders too. You've moved up, you need to fight hard to stay there and move forward if you can. It's all to play for. ... Both teams have it in their capacity to make Wycombe, it's hinterland and beyond, very proud. TheHorsesMouth

6:24pm Fri 7 Oct 11

BOOKERite says...

JimBean wrote:
J B Blackett wrote:
That's your opinion. . Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough.
Well im assuming when I mentioned driving to places, you expected people to walk everywhere? You can't expect people to walk half way across town to other sporting facilities.
Wycombe Badminton Centre is next to the cinema at Handy Cross, the gym and swimmming pool are at Handy Cross Sports Centre. That is not half way across town.
[quote][p][bold]JimBean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: That's your opinion. . Lots of other people have other opinions and ways of looking at this local sports scenario issue but are going too far or all deemed 'stupid' Fair enough.[/p][/quote]Well im assuming when I mentioned driving to places, you expected people to walk everywhere? You can't expect people to walk half way across town to other sporting facilities.[/p][/quote]Wycombe Badminton Centre is next to the cinema at Handy Cross, the gym and swimmming pool are at Handy Cross Sports Centre. That is not half way across town. BOOKERite

6:25pm Fri 7 Oct 11

BOOKERite says...

The Wycombe Badminton Centre is next to the cinema at Handy Cross, the gym and swimming pool is at Handy Cross Sports Centre - that is not half way across town.
The Wycombe Badminton Centre is next to the cinema at Handy Cross, the gym and swimming pool is at Handy Cross Sports Centre - that is not half way across town. BOOKERite

7:47pm Fri 7 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Taken off the Handy Cross Sports Centre website

50m swimming pool
25m teaching pool
8 court sports hall
100 station gym
Group fitness studio
4 squash courts
Athletics track
6 rink bowls hall
Floodlit synthetic outdoor pitch
Crèche
Cafe Bar
Bumpers Backyard soft play area

I didn't realize there is a gym there also.
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The Badminton Courts are a good 6 to 7 minute walk from there however. It would be a bit much to ask people to do that if they had swum a mile say then spent an hour in the multi-gym on top of everything else. Unless they are super-fit of course.
Taken off the Handy Cross Sports Centre website 50m swimming pool 25m teaching pool 8 court sports hall 100 station gym Group fitness studio 4 squash courts Athletics track 6 rink bowls hall Floodlit synthetic outdoor pitch Crèche Cafe Bar Bumpers Backyard soft play area I didn't realize there is a gym there also. . The Badminton Courts are a good 6 to 7 minute walk from there however. It would be a bit much to ask people to do that if they had swum a mile say then spent an hour in the multi-gym on top of everything else. Unless they are super-fit of course. J B Blackett

9:40pm Fri 7 Oct 11

bobby698 says...

STOP PRESS..... I've just had a beer with a mate who tells me the owner of MK Dons is very interested in bringing Wasps to Milton Keynes for next season. Apparently they've been given a shed load of money from the Olympic people for some country or other to train at before the Olympics, and they are keen to get Premiership rugby. Again apparently Northampton Saints had a look at MK before turning it down.
Anyone heard this or comment?
STOP PRESS..... I've just had a beer with a mate who tells me the owner of MK Dons is very interested in bringing Wasps to Milton Keynes for next season. Apparently they've been given a shed load of money from the Olympic people for some country or other to train at before the Olympics, and they are keen to get Premiership rugby. Again apparently Northampton Saints had a look at MK before turning it down. Anyone heard this or comment? bobby698

1:06pm Sat 8 Oct 11

Lawrence Linehan says...

Joefish41 wrote:
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
Yeah maybe it was a short-sighted policy after all not to throw a lot of public money and green belt land in Mr Hayes’ direction. (Hey - I hope the town doesn’t die now this has happened!)
[quote][p][bold]Joefish41[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.[/p][/quote]Yeah maybe it was a short-sighted policy after all not to throw a lot of public money and green belt land in Mr Hayes’ direction. (Hey - I hope the town doesn’t die now this has happened!) Lawrence Linehan

1:09pm Sun 9 Oct 11

Tony.. says...

Just proves one thing.
Hayes cares not a bean about the Wasp's, Wycombe Wanderers, their supporters,the town, or its residents.

As some of us saw, and said, and god slagged of for, ALL he cares for, is money going in HIS back pocket.

Go away Hayes - your not wanted any more.
Just proves one thing. Hayes cares not a bean about the Wasp's, Wycombe Wanderers, their supporters,the town, or its residents. As some of us saw, and said, and god slagged of for, ALL he cares for, is money going in HIS back pocket. Go away Hayes - your not wanted any more. Tony..

2:02pm Sun 9 Oct 11

J B Blackett says...

Mr Hayes made his money initially out of selling double-glazing. .
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He got out of that business - just before the house-building industry and house renovation projects started to fail and the money ran out .
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So he went in to the re-mortgaging and sub-prime (debt) selling business.
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He got out of that 'business' - just before the financial markets and banking industry started to fail and the money started to run out.
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Now he's selling Wasps / WWF. Does he know something we don't or is it third time unlucky ???
Mr Hayes made his money initially out of selling double-glazing. . . He got out of that business - just before the house-building industry and house renovation projects started to fail and the money ran out . . So he went in to the re-mortgaging and sub-prime (debt) selling business. . He got out of that 'business' - just before the financial markets and banking industry started to fail and the money started to run out. . Now he's selling Wasps / WWF. Does he know something we don't or is it third time unlucky ??? J B Blackett

6:52pm Tue 11 Oct 11

washondo says...

Lawrence Linehan wrote:
Joefish41 wrote:
It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.
Yeah maybe it was a short-sighted policy after all not to throw a lot of public money and green belt land in Mr Hayes’ direction. (Hey - I hope the town doesn’t die now this has happened!)
Do promise you'll buck up LL.
[quote][p][bold]Lawrence Linehan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joefish41[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame so many people seem to be so short sighted. A new stadium in wycombe in a sports village would have done nothing but help bring more business and money into the area. I hope this can still be realised but sadly another town is likely to benefit instead.[/p][/quote]Yeah maybe it was a short-sighted policy after all not to throw a lot of public money and green belt land in Mr Hayes’ direction. (Hey - I hope the town doesn’t die now this has happened!)[/p][/quote]Do promise you'll buck up LL. washondo

9:30pm Tue 11 Oct 11

Lawrence Linehan says...

Weak wash.
Weak wash. Lawrence Linehan

9:30pm Tue 11 Oct 11

Lawrence Linehan says...

Weak wash.
Weak wash. Lawrence Linehan

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