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Pothole budget could be cut in half


BUCKINGHAMSHIRE’S pothole budget could be slashed in half under council cost cutting plans.

As the freezing weather opens up new potholes, Buckinghamshire County Council is consulting on a £678,000 cut from its high profile ‘We’re Working On It’ campaign.

Roads boss Val Letheren admitted the cut would not give residents the service they expected – and said she was unhappy with the mooted cuts.

It comes as the authority warns of major spending cuts, which bosses blame on low Government funding.

Cllr Letheren told a committee of councillors probing next year’s budget: “It really is very very worrying.”

Terming it a ‘very dire situation’ Cllr Letheren said: “All in all it is not looking too good.

“We will have to do out best with whatever money we have. It is a really serious issue that we can’t detract from.”

She said: “To make our roads good would take something like £120m. It is like jeans that keep falling apart – you keep patching them up.”

The transportation department’s budget is about £25m. It comes after the council said it was spending an extra £54,000 on filling potholes this week (see link, bottom of story).

Cllr Letheren, cabinet member for transportation, said her budget had been halved over the last three years – and urged the committee to help her fight for more cash from BCC bosses.

The news was met with anger by watchdog councillors who warned businesses and residents’ lives are being damaged by a poor quality road network.

Councillor Patricia Birchley said: “I for one feel deeply concerned about some of these cuts.”

Councillor Peter Hardy said: “You haven’t been able to convince your colleagues on cabinet that road repairs are as important as you think they are.”

Cllr Letheren said: “I have done my best.”

Pointing to the high importance residents place on road repairs – borne out by council surveys – Cllr Letheren said: “I am not happy with as much money as I have got.”

Asked by Councillor Michael Brand whether the council would meet residents’ expectations over the quality of roads, she said: “We won’t, no.”

The authority is only obliged by law to maintain roads to a ‘safe standard’, a term that was ‘fluffy’ she added.

And council leader David Shakespeare ‘has always been reluctant to borrow’ to pay for the work, she said.

Adding that it was unlikely new roads would be built, Cllr Letheren said: “As a national issue, other countries do spend a lot more money on roads than we do.”

In a discussion after Cllr Letheren left, committee members expressed concern about the impact of the cuts.

Councillor Niknam Hussain said: “They did not appear to be able to advance strategic solutions to the problems we will see in the next three to four years.”

Investments should be made now to counter long-term problems, he said.

Councillor Adrian Busby said: “We are going to be under severe pressure from industry in terms of our opportunities for inward investment.”

Firms would go elsewhere rather than put up with the county’s road network, he said.

The Conservative councillor said the Government had put more road duties on councils – but set limits on how much they can raise in council tax, reducing their spending power.

But Cllr Hussain, a Liberal Democrat, said the Tory-run authority had been in power for 120 years and said: “When we did have the money, where was the strategic thought?”

The examination of the budget and medium term plan task and finish group will meet to discuss budget proposals for other council services next Wednesday to Friday. The public are welcome to attend.


Comments(19)

steveconn says...
5:30pm Tue 12 Jan 10

why does seem that they only cut what we need.

Why not rid of the stupid mag saying how well they are doing.

Why not make staff redundant such as planners and building control trying to find work.

I have a lot of ideas so why doesn't WDC.................
.....

dachiltern says...
5:43pm Tue 12 Jan 10

May I add that there are a number of potholes that are not 'new' but opened up again due to the poor standard of previous renewal and repairs carried out by the Council!

Two examples off this are an area of Station Road, Amersham which has been relaid on two occasions, the second due to previous sub standard workmanship and now resembles a fine swiss cheese, the second being Chessmount/Pheasant Roads and Rose Drive where patch repairs are failing everywhere and larger holes appearing.

The list is far from exhaustive and can include Moor Road, Latimer Road (where my vehicle was damaged) in Chesham and Sycamore/ Plantation Roads, Amersham, the list is endless and the council have been made aware.

Please can someone explain to me why we should have to accept sub standard workmanship for our not insubstational taxes!

David Adams
(Frustrated/Angry of Chesham)

89 Rose Drive, Chesham, HP5 1RS

Rikard says...
5:43pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Please everybody - know your BCC from your WDC! Reading the article you are commenting on properly really does help.
We are talking BCC here!

Slimster says...
5:54pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Saving/cuts on one hand, but possibly a false economy. I'm concerned that the council will end up forking more out by not fixing the potholes due to all the claims from drivers with damaged cars.
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The potholes on Totteridge pictured here are now much much worse - traffic is slowing to a halt to negotiate them.

Rikard says...
6:16pm Tue 12 Jan 10

It's become an "us and them" scenario - but we have to remember that BCC is supposed to be *US* - they are supposed to work in our interests and implement, in so far as is possible and realistic, those things that the people think are a priority.
Now - the fact that BCC is powerful enough to shout the loudest *AND* the fact that they know they can save money by pushing the cost back onto us (lost wages/business) etc is just the way the system works.
Surely the truth is that BCC have a load of problems (funding/politics) and that's stopping us getting what we expect.
Couple this with a national apathy and disillusionment with anything political - we the people really need to engage more and shout louder (although I understand the apathy) - we end up at loggerheads.
There is anger and frustration on both sides - keep shouting out solutions though, rather than getting into a slanging match - because solutions is what we need and if we shout them loud enough and long enough then those that do not listen and try implementing them definitely will be at fault.

Steve Totteridge Hill says...
6:47pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Please stop wasting mon£y bodging these quick fix repairs.

Our roads have been patched up for far too long...it's way past time to re-lay the roads that were designed for much lighter vehicles as well as the quantity of them.

wayneo says...
7:32pm Tue 12 Jan 10

I have this week, been travelling around much of the SouthEast for work, I have travelled a variety of roads and I can without a doubt state that Bucks' roads are the worst I have encountered, I truly hope nobody dies from this neglect of duty; there is money in the pot, it has been wasted by an inept transport department who have spent a fortune on hairbrained schemes. These people are allowing more and more development while allowing the infrastructure resemble that of a tin-pot third-world republic.

Credit to the other Councillors for expressing their and our concern.

cocobay says...
8:15pm Tue 12 Jan 10

steveconn wrote:
why does seem that they only cut what we need.

Why not rid of the stupid mag saying how well they are doing.

Why not make staff redundant such as planners and building control trying to find work.

I have a lot of ideas so why doesn't WDC.................

.....
Thats not a nice thing too say, we are living in recession times, budgets are hard everywhere, still shouldnt make comments like that, as much as the anger you have towards the council, but yea, i agree, that the potholes are bad,

Slacker says...
8:55pm Tue 12 Jan 10

The new potholes in Rugwood Road Flackwell are terrible, but they are not as bad as the new ones in Kingsmead road, they are absolutely appalling, it is like driving over a cheese grater.

faye93x says...
9:11pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Well after a £440 car repair bill after hitting a very large pothole on the run from Flackwell Heath to Marlow it resulted in a broken wishbone. I had a report done by the dealership and they confirmed that it was due to an impact that had broken the wishbone. Thanks BCC and Cllr Val Letheren.

Steve Totteridge Hill says...
10:07pm Tue 12 Jan 10

I've lost a tyre...6 months old...NOT a low profile jobby...cut on the sidewall...on the inside, so not kerb damage! Thanks Val... another £140 bill to me!

Voyeur says...
11:02pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Why not take BCC to the Small Claims Court?
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http://www.hmcourts-
service.gov.uk/infoa
bout/claims/index.ht
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.
Who knows, they may even settle out of court?

demoness says...
11:26pm Tue 12 Jan 10

faye93x wrote:
Well after a £440 car repair bill after hitting a very large pothole on the run from Flackwell Heath to Marlow it resulted in a broken wishbone. I had a report done by the dealership and they confirmed that it was due to an impact that had broken the wishbone. Thanks BCC and Cllr Val Letheren.
Sorry to be dense. What is a wishbone in a car?

Steve Totteridge Hill says...
7:39am Wed 13 Jan 10

demoness wrote:
faye93x wrote: Well after a £440 car repair bill after hitting a very large pothole on the run from Flackwell Heath to Marlow it resulted in a broken wishbone. I had a report done by the dealership and they confirmed that it was due to an impact that had broken the wishbone. Thanks BCC and Cllr Val Letheren.
Sorry to be dense. What is a wishbone in a car?
Is it the bit between the breast meat on the nut that holds the steering wheel?

green damage limitation says...
9:16am Wed 13 Jan 10

Rikard wrote:
Please everybody - know your BCC from your WDC! Reading the article you are commenting on properly really does help. We are talking BCC here!
Issue is neither BCC or WDC have managed budgets well over past years-- they have failed to set aside funds each year to meet repairs ,rebuild or reinvestment in roads ,buildings or capital projects.

Clarke and Shakespeare will bleat we have kept council tax down and we blame the government

The facts are Shakespeare and Clarke for years have sucessivelly been stripping Bucks and Wycombe of investment -- Today we are now suufering from their Tory penny pinching strategies!!!

Steve Totteridge Hill says...
10:46am Wed 13 Jan 10

green damage limitation wrote:
Rikard wrote: Please everybody - know your BCC from your WDC! Reading the article you are commenting on properly really does help. We are talking BCC here!
Issue is neither BCC or WDC have managed budgets well over past years-- they have failed to set aside funds each year to meet repairs ,rebuild or reinvestment in roads ,buildings or capital projects. Clarke and Shakespeare will bleat we have kept council tax down and we blame the government The facts are Shakespeare and Clarke for years have sucessivelly been stripping Bucks and Wycombe of investment -- Today we are now suufering from their Tory penny pinching strategies!!!
Sorry?
How long have labour been in power...long enough to have sorted things out.
Just think about all the mon£y wasted on bailing out the banks!

Tharus Bond says...
11:42am Wed 13 Jan 10

we should make parents with kids at grammer schools pay for coach services like they make people pay who go to secondary schools!

demoness says...
1:37pm Wed 13 Jan 10

Tharus Bond wrote:
we should make parents with kids at grammer schools pay for coach services like they make people pay who go to secondary schools!
Unless times have changed and I doubt it, all secondary school children - grammar and upper - have to pay for coach services.
Perhaps you know something we don't??

aspen g says...
1:23pm Thu 14 Jan 10

faye93x, Wooburn Green says...
9:11pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Well after a £440 car repair bill after hitting a very large pothole on the run from Flackwell Heath to Marlow it resulted in a broken wishbone. I had a report done by the dealership and they confirmed that it was due to an impact that had broken the wishbone. Thanks BCC and Cllr Val Letheren.

Faye - a friend of mine damaged their wheel on a pot hole in Princes Risborough... he took a photo of the pothole and sent it to the council (not sure which one) who admitted responsibility and paid for the repairs.

FYI


Potholes on Totteridge Lane, High Wycombe Gritter Steve Underwood with Cllr Letheren

Potholes on Totteridge Lane, High Wycombe

Cllr Letheren thanked gritters yesterday - and said the council was tackling potholes



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