RAF man who lives in Walters Ash fears his family will be left homeless

12:40pm Thursday 26th July 2012 in Politics By Rebecca Cain

Kevin Taylor, Paul and Alison Kevin Taylor, Paul and Alison

A RAF serviceman fears he will be left homeless and said the council is doing "little or nothing" to help find him a house for when he leaves the force.

Kevin Taylor, 48, currently lives in personnel family accommodation in Walters Ash but leaves the service in August after 30 years.

Having lived in RAF accommodation he is now faced with finding a home for his family, but he said Wycombe District Council has not been able to help him.

He said he feels other members of society have been placed before him in the list for social housing.

Mr Taylor said: "Because I have supported this country for 30 years of my working life, which are the best 30 years, I feel I am being disadvantaged."

He currently works at RAF Halton but has spent 22 years working and living in Walters Ash. His contract ends in August.

Mr Taylor, who lives with his wife, Alison and two sons, Peter, 22 and Paul, 21, said: "Once the end of my service career has happened I am no longer entitled to reside in service accommodation.

"They will then evict us all and we will then be a homeless family."

They also have a daughter, Kelly, 30, who lives in the area, and three grandchildren.

He said he has been registered for social housing with WDC for more than a year.

Mr Taylor said when he joined the RAF at 18, he did not have the foresight to buy a house.

He now fears he will find it very hard to get a mortgage for a period longer than 15 years.

The rent the family currently pay is below market rate. But they pay council tax and other household bills.

Mr Taylor added: "I feel the council are doing little or nothing to offer us a viable housing option."

Spokesman for WDC Sue Robinson said: "We're currently looking at Mr Taylor's case and as with all requests we receive, we'll be reviewing his request under statutory legislation. Until we have investigated his request fully, it's not appropriate to comment on this individual case."

A statement from RAF Halton said service personnel attend a resettlement briefing at their station, which is mandatory and covers many topics.

Personnel are then invited to attend a three-day career transition workshop which covers, amongst other things, housing, finance, and grants available.

Comments (47)

1:10pm Thu 26 Jul 12

Wycombite says...

Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it. Wycombite

1:27pm Thu 26 Jul 12

teri_bus says...

Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!!
Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!! teri_bus

1:33pm Thu 26 Jul 12

Mr Vegas says...

He's had years of low rent so he could've saved money plus he's got two grown up sons (Peter and Paul) who should pay their way (unless they fly away). What was he expecting, has he had his head in the sand? He must've known from the start that this day would come.Thanks for the service, we owe you for that but that is a separate matter.
He's had years of low rent so he could've saved money plus he's got two grown up sons (Peter and Paul) who should pay their way (unless they fly away). What was he expecting, has he had his head in the sand? He must've known from the start that this day would come.Thanks for the service, we owe you for that but that is a separate matter. Mr Vegas

2:03pm Thu 26 Jul 12

tigeran says...

Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
[quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise! tigeran

2:10pm Thu 26 Jul 12

realist_highwycombe says...

What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay.

I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either?

Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club!
What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay. I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either? Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club! realist_highwycombe

2:21pm Thu 26 Jul 12

wycswan says...

tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy.
O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around,
looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them.
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy. O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around, looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them. wycswan

3:03pm Thu 26 Jul 12

Mr Vegas says...

Would the council even give him a family home as his sons are 21 & 22?
--
If the answer is no, then a 1/2 bedroom place for him & is mrs should be affordable. and if he has no job what about housing benefit?
Would the council even give him a family home as his sons are 21 & 22? -- If the answer is no, then a 1/2 bedroom place for him & is mrs should be affordable. and if he has no job what about housing benefit? Mr Vegas

3:12pm Thu 26 Jul 12

LoggedOn says...

Im afraid I too have little sympathy. I am from a forces family and know that forces families are privilaged in terms of housing, as already mentioned, everything given on a plate for them for well below market cost. The forces molly coddle the families giving them everything on a plate and organised for them THAT is the privalege you get for serving your country - but when you land in civvy street, you have to land on your own two feet. You have known since you joined up you would have to provide a home for yourself, and like several others have said, you should have made provisions for that day. No good going to the press for sympathy.
Im afraid I too have little sympathy. I am from a forces family and know that forces families are privilaged in terms of housing, as already mentioned, everything given on a plate for them for well below market cost. The forces molly coddle the families giving them everything on a plate and organised for them THAT is the privalege you get for serving your country - but when you land in civvy street, you have to land on your own two feet. You have known since you joined up you would have to provide a home for yourself, and like several others have said, you should have made provisions for that day. No good going to the press for sympathy. LoggedOn

3:17pm Thu 26 Jul 12

Tinkers says...

I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month!

I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!! Tinkers

3:25pm Thu 26 Jul 12

300Aylesbury says...

Sorry no sympathy, he has known he will be leaving since he signed on to do 30 years. During that time he has had ample time to plan his future and should have saved up towards his deposit which together with his pension and tax free lump sum will put him in a better position than most.
Sorry no sympathy, he has known he will be leaving since he signed on to do 30 years. During that time he has had ample time to plan his future and should have saved up towards his deposit which together with his pension and tax free lump sum will put him in a better position than most. 300Aylesbury

3:27pm Thu 26 Jul 12

sai-diva says...

tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out? sai-diva

3:36pm Thu 26 Jul 12

tigeran says...

wycswan wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy.
O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around,
looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them.
Yes, well said.
[quote][p][bold]wycswan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy. O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around, looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them.[/p][/quote]Yes, well said. tigeran

3:41pm Thu 26 Jul 12

Dave Bigun-Stiff says...

My cousin has rooms in his large house that he could rent out? And it has new fangled internet.
My cousin has rooms in his large house that he could rent out? And it has new fangled internet. Dave Bigun-Stiff

3:41pm Thu 26 Jul 12

tigeran says...

sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
[quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple. tigeran

3:44pm Thu 26 Jul 12

tigeran says...

sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
The system should be there, and ONLY there for people who truly need it and for those that have contributed and have fallen on hard times and not for someone to live off.
[quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]The system should be there, and ONLY there for people who truly need it and for those that have contributed and have fallen on hard times and not for someone to live off. tigeran

3:52pm Thu 26 Jul 12

VoiceOfSeason says...

His colleagues in the armed forces must be embarrassed reading this - one of their own people going to the press for sympathy when the vast majority (those in the 'real world') have no doubt been sensible enough to put some of their income aside.

The issue is not whether there are 'less deserving' people getting handouts. If that is the case, we need to address that separately; but that is certainly not related to this horrendous oversight.
His colleagues in the armed forces must be embarrassed reading this - one of their own people going to the press for sympathy when the vast majority (those in the 'real world') have no doubt been sensible enough to put some of their income aside. The issue is not whether there are 'less deserving' people getting handouts. If that is the case, we need to address that separately; but that is certainly not related to this horrendous oversight. VoiceOfSeason

4:33pm Thu 26 Jul 12

sai-diva says...

tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way.
Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out? sai-diva

5:02pm Thu 26 Jul 12

J B Blackett says...

I wish we were all-knowing , wise , full of fore-sight and living comfortably with a predictable affordable home life with secure stable static job prospects some of the people on here seem to think this airman has had.
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Then these sort of domestic / housing problems would not occur.
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But unfortunately everybody's life's not like that - mine isn't.
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I am sure all the free advice is well-intentioned.
I wish we were all-knowing , wise , full of fore-sight and living comfortably with a predictable affordable home life with secure stable static job prospects some of the people on here seem to think this airman has had. . Then these sort of domestic / housing problems would not occur. . But unfortunately everybody's life's not like that - mine isn't. . I am sure all the free advice is well-intentioned. J B Blackett

9:41pm Thu 26 Jul 12

geoffW says...

sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way.
Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
Who decides? Tigeran, obviously.
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There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot.
[quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?[/p][/quote]Who decides? Tigeran, obviously. . There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot. geoffW

2:31am Fri 27 Jul 12

tigeran says...

sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way.
Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
Mmmmm Whats her excuse? You didnt say. Is she a parasite? Hope not as they are scum.
[quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?[/p][/quote]Mmmmm Whats her excuse? You didnt say. Is she a parasite? Hope not as they are scum. tigeran

2:33am Fri 27 Jul 12

tigeran says...

geoffW wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way.
Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
Who decides? Tigeran, obviously.
.
There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot.
Would be more than happy to decide! We would be better off with lowlife out of the way!
[quote][p][bold]geoffW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?[/p][/quote]Who decides? Tigeran, obviously. . There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot.[/p][/quote]Would be more than happy to decide! We would be better off with lowlife out of the way! tigeran

11:45am Fri 27 Jul 12

sai-diva says...

tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment.
What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years?

I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list?
Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way.
Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
Mmmmm Whats her excuse? You didnt say. Is she a parasite? Hope not as they are scum.
And that one sums it up, she doesn't have an 'excuse' she has a very good and valid reason.
thank goodness that any decision about who is 'worthy' of state support isn't left to those who jump to conclusions based on very little evidence, or compassion.Although this is changing under the present regime.
I'm still waiting on your definition of 'usual suspects' but fear that you wont be making a list because it will reveal the 'true you'
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?[/p][/quote]Mmmmm Whats her excuse? You didnt say. Is she a parasite? Hope not as they are scum.[/p][/quote]And that one sums it up, she doesn't have an 'excuse' she has a very good and valid reason. thank goodness that any decision about who is 'worthy' of state support isn't left to those who jump to conclusions based on very little evidence, or compassion.Although this is changing under the present regime. I'm still waiting on your definition of 'usual suspects' but fear that you wont be making a list because it will reveal the 'true you' sai-diva

12:07pm Fri 27 Jul 12

acjy1985 says...

I think what Tigeran is trying to say is that if your friend can't get any work for reasons such as disability etc then of course they deserve assistance with living. If they can't get any work because "there aren't any jobs" then that is a different matter.
I think what Tigeran is trying to say is that if your friend can't get any work for reasons such as disability etc then of course they deserve assistance with living. If they can't get any work because "there aren't any jobs" then that is a different matter. acjy1985

4:39pm Fri 27 Jul 12

sai-diva says...

You may feel that you have explained 'usual suspect' but do you think you could manage to be a bit more specific, humour me on this.
Tut Tut, i before e except after c.did you not pay attention at school.
You may feel that you have explained 'usual suspect' but do you think you could manage to be a bit more specific, humour me on this. Tut Tut, i before e except after c.did you not pay attention at school. sai-diva

5:31pm Fri 27 Jul 12

VoiceOfSeason says...

This is getting boring now folks - your childish squabbling. Nothing to do with the original story so can we leave it?
This is getting boring now folks - your childish squabbling. Nothing to do with the original story so can we leave it? VoiceOfSeason

7:37pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Wycombite wrote:
Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
why do people assume people in the military dont pay housing costs?? Why shouldnt this family get help when they work hard and he has served his queen and country for 30 years. Makes me sick when the council are only too happy to give houses to people who have no intention of working and claim every benefit under the sun
[quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]why do people assume people in the military dont pay housing costs?? Why shouldnt this family get help when they work hard and he has served his queen and country for 30 years. Makes me sick when the council are only too happy to give houses to people who have no intention of working and claim every benefit under the sun sophiet

7:39pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

teri_bus wrote:
Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!!
You sound like a nice person. You know nothing about this familys circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]teri_bus[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!![/p][/quote]You sound like a nice person. You know nothing about this familys circumstances. sophiet

7:46pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

sai-diva wrote:
You may feel that you have explained 'usual suspect' but do you think you could manage to be a bit more specific, humour me on this. Tut Tut, i before e except after c.did you not pay attention at school.
We are fed up with people coming into our country and jumping the housing list.
why shouldnt this family be housed by the local council they house people who have no intention of working at all. they are scroungers and the govt dont mind paying their rent for them and keeping a roof over their heads. its about time the council looked after the decent hard working people of this town
[quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: You may feel that you have explained 'usual suspect' but do you think you could manage to be a bit more specific, humour me on this. Tut Tut, i before e except after c.did you not pay attention at school.[/p][/quote]We are fed up with people coming into our country and jumping the housing list. why shouldnt this family be housed by the local council they house people who have no intention of working at all. they are scroungers and the govt dont mind paying their rent for them and keeping a roof over their heads. its about time the council looked after the decent hard working people of this town sophiet

7:48pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

300Aylesbury wrote:
Sorry no sympathy, he has known he will be leaving since he signed on to do 30 years. During that time he has had ample time to plan his future and should have saved up towards his deposit which together with his pension and tax free lump sum will put him in a better position than most.
you know nothing about this familys circumstances and what they have had to pay out over the years
[quote][p][bold]300Aylesbury[/bold] wrote: Sorry no sympathy, he has known he will be leaving since he signed on to do 30 years. During that time he has had ample time to plan his future and should have saved up towards his deposit which together with his pension and tax free lump sum will put him in a better position than most.[/p][/quote]you know nothing about this familys circumstances and what they have had to pay out over the years sophiet

7:50pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Tinkers wrote:
I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
do you know this families circumstances?? you have no idea what this family have been through in the last 30 years so how can you comment on whet they can afford
[quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]do you know this families circumstances?? you have no idea what this family have been through in the last 30 years so how can you comment on whet they can afford sophiet

7:51pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

wycswan wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy. O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around, looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them.
well said
[quote][p][bold]wycswan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I agree with you tigeran, regrding the workshy. O.k. the previous 2 comments have a point but although he has had time to look around, looking for affordable rented accomodation in this area is a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. And may I bring to your attention that one of thereasons the waiting list is so long is precisely because many 'undeserving' people manage to jump the list and then get thier rent and council tax paid for them.[/p][/quote]well said sophiet

7:54pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

VoiceOfSeason wrote:
His colleagues in the armed forces must be embarrassed reading this - one of their own people going to the press for sympathy when the vast majority (those in the 'real world') have no doubt been sensible enough to put some of their income aside. The issue is not whether there are 'less deserving' people getting handouts. If that is the case, we need to address that separately; but that is certainly not related to this horrendous oversight.
you shouldnt always believe what you read in the paper. journalists twist the story and dont always print what was reported to them
[quote][p][bold]VoiceOfSeason[/bold] wrote: His colleagues in the armed forces must be embarrassed reading this - one of their own people going to the press for sympathy when the vast majority (those in the 'real world') have no doubt been sensible enough to put some of their income aside. The issue is not whether there are 'less deserving' people getting handouts. If that is the case, we need to address that separately; but that is certainly not related to this horrendous oversight.[/p][/quote]you shouldnt always believe what you read in the paper. journalists twist the story and dont always print what was reported to them sophiet

7:55pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Mr Vegas wrote:
Would the council even give him a family home as his sons are 21 & 22? -- If the answer is no, then a 1/2 bedroom place for him & is mrs should be affordable. and if he has no job what about housing benefit?
So where are the sons supposed to live?? have you looked around at the price of rented accomadation in wycombe. they are a family so why shouldnt they live together
[quote][p][bold]Mr Vegas[/bold] wrote: Would the council even give him a family home as his sons are 21 & 22? -- If the answer is no, then a 1/2 bedroom place for him & is mrs should be affordable. and if he has no job what about housing benefit?[/p][/quote]So where are the sons supposed to live?? have you looked around at the price of rented accomadation in wycombe. they are a family so why shouldnt they live together sophiet

7:58pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Stalemate wrote:
What a tw@t. How can you parade your family in the local paper like this, have you no pride or self-respect? That poor woman looks like she needs a night out, where she might find someone a little less daft than you! Suck it up buddy, no man - whatever his profession - can quit a job without thought or consideration to the future.
what a nice person you sound. you dont even know the families circumstances and what they can and cant afford.who are you to call somebody a **** you sad little man
[quote][p][bold]Stalemate[/bold] wrote: What a tw@t. How can you parade your family in the local paper like this, have you no pride or self-respect? That poor woman looks like she needs a night out, where she might find someone a little less daft than you! Suck it up buddy, no man - whatever his profession - can quit a job without thought or consideration to the future.[/p][/quote]what a nice person you sound. you dont even know the families circumstances and what they can and cant afford.who are you to call somebody a **** you sad little man sophiet

8:01pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Mr Vegas wrote:
He's had years of low rent so he could've saved money plus he's got two grown up sons (Peter and Paul) who should pay their way (unless they fly away). What was he expecting, has he had his head in the sand? He must've known from the start that this day would come.Thanks for the service, we owe you for that but that is a separate matter.
hahaha live in the real world. do you expect this families kids to live with them forever
[quote][p][bold]Mr Vegas[/bold] wrote: He's had years of low rent so he could've saved money plus he's got two grown up sons (Peter and Paul) who should pay their way (unless they fly away). What was he expecting, has he had his head in the sand? He must've known from the start that this day would come.Thanks for the service, we owe you for that but that is a separate matter.[/p][/quote]hahaha live in the real world. do you expect this families kids to live with them forever sophiet

8:05pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

realist_highwycombe wrote:
What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay. I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either? Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club!
do you know this mans personal circumstances??? do you know what he has had to pay out over the years?? Whats his other half got to do with it?? everybody is quick to pass judgement without knowing the background. why shouldnt the family be housed by the council they house people who have no intention of working and pay their rent and council tax for them
[quote][p][bold]realist_highwycombe[/bold] wrote: What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay. I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either? Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club![/p][/quote]do you know this mans personal circumstances??? do you know what he has had to pay out over the years?? Whats his other half got to do with it?? everybody is quick to pass judgement without knowing the background. why shouldnt the family be housed by the council they house people who have no intention of working and pay their rent and council tax for them sophiet

8:09pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

J B Blackett wrote:
I wish we were all-knowing , wise , full of fore-sight and living comfortably with a predictable affordable home life with secure stable static job prospects some of the people on here seem to think this airman has had. . Then these sort of domestic / housing problems would not occur. . But unfortunately everybody's life's not like that - mine isn't. . I am sure all the free advice is well-intentioned.
wow a decent person. just what i was thinking. everybody is quick to slag this man off but they dont know whats happened in his life over the last 30 years and what he has had to pay out over the years
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: I wish we were all-knowing , wise , full of fore-sight and living comfortably with a predictable affordable home life with secure stable static job prospects some of the people on here seem to think this airman has had. . Then these sort of domestic / housing problems would not occur. . But unfortunately everybody's life's not like that - mine isn't. . I am sure all the free advice is well-intentioned.[/p][/quote]wow a decent person. just what i was thinking. everybody is quick to slag this man off but they dont know whats happened in his life over the last 30 years and what he has had to pay out over the years sophiet

8:12pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

geoffW wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
sai-diva wrote:
tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?
You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.
Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?
Who decides? Tigeran, obviously. . There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot.
Have you ever met this man you call an idiot??? very judgemental whats your problem??
[quote][p][bold]geoffW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sai-diva[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]I think we all know what you 'personally think tigger, you state it often enough. Who would you put in charge to decide who is a parasite, and who should be kicked out. This man has had plenty of time to sort out his affairs, his two sons are well above the age that most have flown the nest, so he's had subsidised housing, and a wage out of the country whilst following a career he chose, now he wants to go into more subsidised housing for both himself and his children,there isn't enough housing out for key workers since the policies were introduced that prevented money being invested in social housing. I'm sorry he feels that is being treated badly,but your blanket let's kick out 'the usual suspects' I feel wouldn't help him. Can you be more specific about who you would kick out?[/p][/quote]You said it yourself, 'the usual suspects'. We all know the 'type' and so do you. If you have never put in and I dont mean people who trully need help, I mean, like you said, 'the usual suspect', you should get nothing back out, its that simple.[/p][/quote]Mmmm, I don't think I do know, i mean i have a friend who has never worked, was born in Wycombe, can't get any work for valid reasons, should she get money from the state? Should she expect to get housing? her parents can't afford to keep her they were poor when they had her, yet they had her any way. Does she count as a usual suspect, she's paid a bit of tax and ni, but she's too young to have paid much. Who decides who should get kicked out?[/p][/quote]Who decides? Tigeran, obviously. . There are scroungers who take up social housing but there are also many more derserving people who can't get a place, certainly more deserving than this idiot.[/p][/quote]Have you ever met this man you call an idiot??? very judgemental whats your problem?? sophiet

8:25pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

sophiet wrote:
realist_highwycombe wrote: What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay. I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either? Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club!
do you know this mans personal circumstances??? do you know what he has had to pay out over the years?? Whats his other half got to do with it?? everybody is quick to pass judgement without knowing the background. why shouldnt the family be housed by the council they house people who have no intention of working and pay their rent and council tax for them
hindsight is a wonderful thing
[quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realist_highwycombe[/bold] wrote: What an absolute load of tosh. Having friends in the armed forces I know for a fact that the "rent" for many if not most of these houses is VERY good value - I.E. It is much, much less than anything people out of the forces have to pay. I have absolutely no sympathy for this chap. He has had years to save for a home of his own - he has not done so and now expects the council to come and bail him out because he did not have enough foresight to save up some of the ££'s he has earnt through his work. What about his other half? Did she not think to save anything up either? Welcome to the real world - Many of us, me included have to save up hundreds of pounds a month to try and get enough together to buy a property whilst spending loads of money on rent so join the club![/p][/quote]do you know this mans personal circumstances??? do you know what he has had to pay out over the years?? Whats his other half got to do with it?? everybody is quick to pass judgement without knowing the background. why shouldnt the family be housed by the council they house people who have no intention of working and pay their rent and council tax for them[/p][/quote]hindsight is a wonderful thing sophiet

8:27pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

tigeran wrote:
Wycombite wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.
But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise!
well said tigeran you certainly live in the real world
[quote][p][bold]tigeran[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: Sounds like someone is asking for preferential treatment. What's happened to all the money you've saved up by not having to pay for housing costs over the last 30 years? I'm sure you have done a sterling job for our country but I don't think you should jump to the top of the list because of it.[/p][/quote]But its ok for someone who has never worked, their family has never worked before them and their children will probably never work either and goes straight to the top of the housing list? Someone comes over from another country with nothing, has never contributed anything to this country, never will contribute anything to this country then goes straight to the top of the housing list? You think that is ok but not this service man? I personally think the afore mentioned parasites should be kicked OUT to make room for decent folk like Mr Taylor. I cannot think for the life of me how anyone could think otherwise![/p][/quote]well said tigeran you certainly live in the real world sophiet

8:32pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Tinkers wrote:
I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month
[quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month sophiet

10:21pm Sat 28 Jul 12

sophiet says...

teri_bus wrote:
Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!!
The last 10 years u say to secure a place? There isnt any mention of 10 years in the article so you must know the family. Wonder if you would have the balls to say what you just did to their faces
[quote][p][bold]teri_bus[/bold] wrote: Welcome to the world of the serviceman.....I spent 28 years in RAF and ended my career at Brize Norton. The emphasis is on you I'm afraid, you have had the last 10 years to secure accomodation and you have waited until your last few months in the RAF. I have no sympathy i'm afraid. You certainly are not a priority on the housing list and if you make yourself homeless then even less help will be available....Start looking for private rented!! PPPPPP!![/p][/quote]The last 10 years u say to secure a place? There isnt any mention of 10 years in the article so you must know the family. Wonder if you would have the balls to say what you just did to their faces sophiet

10:33pm Sat 28 Jul 12

Wycombite says...

sophiet wrote:
Tinkers wrote:
I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month
So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then?
I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.
[quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month[/p][/quote]So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it. Wycombite

11:15pm Sat 28 Jul 12

Michael, HP7 says...

If the RAF subsidised geezer didn't put something aside for his entirely expected end of employment, what is that to do with anyone but him?
- Certainly none of this local taxpayer's business.
- Nice try. Sob-story. Maybe the sons can get jobs (helpful hint).
If the RAF subsidised geezer didn't put something aside for his entirely expected end of employment, what is that to do with anyone but him? - Certainly none of this local taxpayer's business. - Nice try. Sob-story. Maybe the sons can get jobs (helpful hint). Michael, HP7

9:59am Sun 29 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Wycombite wrote:
sophiet wrote:
Tinkers wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month
So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.
Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances
[quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month[/p][/quote]So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.[/p][/quote]Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances sophiet

11:41am Tue 31 Jul 12

Wycombite says...

sophiet wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
sophiet wrote:
Tinkers wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month
So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.
Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances
Well, council house = almost free so not much different. Very low rent etc. I'm still subsidising them whatever.
[quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month[/p][/quote]So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.[/p][/quote]Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances[/p][/quote]Well, council house = almost free so not much different. Very low rent etc. I'm still subsidising them whatever. Wycombite

7:26pm Tue 31 Jul 12

sophiet says...

Wycombite wrote:
sophiet wrote:
Wycombite wrote:
sophiet wrote:
Tinkers wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!!
why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month
So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.
Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances
Well, council house = almost free so not much different. Very low rent etc. I'm still subsidising them whatever.
How can u b subsidising them if they have worked all their lives and never claimed benefits. So you think you are subsidising everybody who lives in a council house. how do you work that out then
[quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wycombite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sophiet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tinkers[/bold] wrote: I see there is no mention in the article of his gratuity pay when he leaves or his servicable pension that he will get each month. Surely both these can be used as a deposit to buy a house and pay the mortgage each month! I don't see why serving 30 years in the RAF makes him think he should be priority in getting a Council House. Perhaps he should have more training during his resettlement to understand the real world!![/p][/quote]why shouldnt this family be housed by the council they are quick enough to house people that have only lived in our country for five minutes and have no intention of working or they claim benefits and work on the sly. not right at all. how can you comment on this families finances you dont know what they are paying out every month[/p][/quote]So the tax payer is left to pick up the pieces, great. Maybe I'll just quit my job and live off the state then? I don't doubt this guy has done excellent work for his country but that does not mean he can simply expect a free house at the end of it.[/p][/quote]Who said the family were all expecting the tax payer to support them ?? They arent looking for a free council house. they work. they have paid their way in life since the day they left school. people need to show a little compassion to others and not be so quick to comment about the family when they know nothing at all about their circumstances[/p][/quote]Well, council house = almost free so not much different. Very low rent etc. I'm still subsidising them whatever.[/p][/quote]How can u b subsidising them if they have worked all their lives and never claimed benefits. So you think you are subsidising everybody who lives in a council house. how do you work that out then sophiet

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