Little Marlow residents hit out at running track proposals

Some of the residents at the Little Marlow site Some of the residents at the Little Marlow site

RESIDENTS have hit out at a proposed running track in Little Marlow which they say is a "badly thought out, rushed proposal."

Wycombe District Council (WDC) exhibited proposals for an athletic track to be built on land adjacent to Westhorpe Farm.

The plans, which were met with an optimistic response by some residents when they were displayed earlier this year, showed an eight lane track, car park, off-road cycle way and jogging path.

But some residents said it is a misconception that the local residents are in favour of or ambivalent about the running track.

Martin Braint, from Church Road, Little Marlow, said: "The council wants to start building the track in November 2012, no time at all to get it right and to seek the locals views.

"How can the council of all people wish to rush something through so fast? It is totally undemocratic and shows a great disrespect for the people who are directly affected by the proposed development"

The proposed £1.5million plan, which includes opening up footpaths to access the seven lakes and Spade Oak Lake Nature Reserve, is in green belt land.

A proposed running track in Hazlemere was turned down in March 2010. Mr Braint said: "The Little Marlow proposal appears to be a badly thought out, rushed proposal by a desperate council."

He raised concerns about the traffic control on an already busy road and how users will enter and leave the site.

He said the existing plan contradicts the wording of the proposal.

Mr Braint said the council claims the track will be used "infrequently" and said if that was the case then why spend £1.5million on it.

He also questioned if visitors to the country park can use the car park and the facilities and will they have to pay to park.

He said the only benefit apart from parking and toilet facilities seems to be a single footpath, which will only have a 30 year lease.

Mr Braint added: "It appears that there is very little gain for the locals visiting this so called park, of which we already have access to. Let's face it while businesses own the country park land there will always be controlled access."

Mr Braint said the local plan states that any development in the country park should be in the west and not in the north.

A meeting was held last Thursday where WDC met with representatives of Little Marlow Residents Association, Little Marlow Lakes Country Park Community Partnership and Little Marlow Parish Council.

Mr Braint said Major Projects and Estates Executive at WDC, Charles Brocklehurst, claimed the barn on site is old and the land is a desert, but he said the barn is just three-years-old and the site has wild flowers and wildlife.

WDC spokesman, Sue Robinson, said as a result of the exhibition, some residents had expressed concerns about planning policy, highways, lighting and landscaping.

She said concerns could be addressed and satisfactory solutions found. In response to concerns raised about local traffic, highways engineers gave more details about the non-peak time use of the proposed track and ways to improve the junction and reduce traffic speed.

Mrs Robinson added: "The council believes that the current proposal for a running track at Little Marlow offers the opportunity to create a new sporting facility that could benefit people of all ages. "The investment into the site could also mean the start of a process of opening up the proposed country park to everyone."

She said the council is aware of residents concern that the proposal - which is in an area designated as in the Green Belt - could lead to further development, should it be granted planning permission.

While essential sports facilities are permissible within the Green Belt, each case is decided on its individual merits. For more information about the proposals, go to www.wycombe.gov.uk and search ‘running track’.

A meeting of the Little Marlow Parish Council planning committee to discuss the proposed athletics track at Westhorpe will be held on July 31 at 8pm at The Pavilion, Recreation Ground, Little Marlow. The public and press are invited to attend.

Comments (13)

11:35am Fri 27 Jul 12

washondo says...

Be very careful - remember Adams Park, a "sporting facility" approved in Green Belt.
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Now purely a commercial enterprise and now removed from Green Belt!
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Access - if you pay!
Be very careful - remember Adams Park, a "sporting facility" approved in Green Belt. ~ Now purely a commercial enterprise and now removed from Green Belt! ~ Access - if you pay! washondo

12:16pm Fri 27 Jul 12

wayneo says...

washondo wrote:
Be very careful - remember Adams Park, a "sporting facility" approved in Green Belt. ~ Now purely a commercial enterprise and now removed from Green Belt! ~ Access - if you pay!
That is a good point and it is important that those who live in the area are listened to. I'm not so sure that just because elements of Greenbelt don't look as attractive as other parts, that makes it fair-game for development, it does not. Designated Green-belt is just that.
[quote][p][bold]washondo[/bold] wrote: Be very careful - remember Adams Park, a "sporting facility" approved in Green Belt. ~ Now purely a commercial enterprise and now removed from Green Belt! ~ Access - if you pay![/p][/quote]That is a good point and it is important that those who live in the area are listened to. I'm not so sure that just because elements of Greenbelt don't look as attractive as other parts, that makes it fair-game for development, it does not. Designated Green-belt is just that. wayneo

11:01pm Fri 27 Jul 12

BOOKERite says...

Same old argument that was used for Booker airfield. Mr. Brocklehurst is confusing areas of green belt with ANOB's. but the two are protected and should remain so.
Same old argument that was used for Booker airfield. Mr. Brocklehurst is confusing areas of green belt with ANOB's. but the two are protected and should remain so. BOOKERite

10:06am Sat 28 Jul 12

Agniesca says...

The Judo Centre at Barry Close is where the premier running club in High Wycombe meets. Its one hundred and fifty members have access to showers, toilets, lockers and a bar etc; and do warm-up laps round Fernie fields. The centre hosts international judo events and the field hosts hockey, football and many other activities activities and easily has the capacity to accommodate a running track (and without the need to build and staff necessary facilities - with the ongoing costs). The club ould probably be grateful for the increased income.
The Judo Centre at Barry Close is where the premier running club in High Wycombe meets. Its one hundred and fifty members have access to showers, toilets, lockers and a bar etc; and do warm-up laps round Fernie fields. The centre hosts international judo events and the field hosts hockey, football and many other activities activities and easily has the capacity to accommodate a running track (and without the need to build and staff necessary facilities - with the ongoing costs). The club ould probably be grateful for the increased income. Agniesca

10:23am Sat 28 Jul 12

BOOKERite says...

Fernie fields is a recreation ground serving a large area, and should therefore be protected as such. If a running track was installed, where would the football/cricket pitches and the children play, it is not large enough to incorporate everything, and I believe that the judo club car park is to be extended - even less room for the sporting and play activities that it is already being used for.
Fernie fields is a recreation ground serving a large area, and should therefore be protected as such. If a running track was installed, where would the football/cricket pitches and the children play, it is not large enough to incorporate everything, and I believe that the judo club car park is to be extended - even less room for the sporting and play activities that it is already being used for. BOOKERite

2:30pm Sat 28 Jul 12

Agniesca says...

Fernie Fields is large enough to accommodate football, hockey and a variety of other activities (such as Top Hay productions) as well as having adequate space forchildren's activities and is therefore a better location than other "green " sites
Fernie Fields is large enough to accommodate football, hockey and a variety of other activities (such as Top Hay productions) as well as having adequate space forchildren's activities and is therefore a better location than other "green " sites Agniesca

5:15pm Sat 28 Jul 12

BOOKERite says...

Agniesca wrote:
Fernie Fields is large enough to accommodate football, hockey and a variety of other activities (such as Top Hay productions) as well as having adequate space forchildren's activities and is therefore a better location than other "green " sites
You haven't thought it through - if the recreation ground was to be used for all the activities that you mention, they would have to build an even bigger car park than the one planned, thereby taking off an even bigger chunck of land, which means there would definately not be enough room for everything.
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Although it is not green belt, it is definately a "green" oasis in the middle of a residential area.
[quote][p][bold]Agniesca[/bold] wrote: Fernie Fields is large enough to accommodate football, hockey and a variety of other activities (such as Top Hay productions) as well as having adequate space forchildren's activities and is therefore a better location than other "green " sites[/p][/quote]You haven't thought it through - if the recreation ground was to be used for all the activities that you mention, they would have to build an even bigger car park than the one planned, thereby taking off an even bigger chunck of land, which means there would definately not be enough room for everything. . Although it is not green belt, it is definately a "green" oasis in the middle of a residential area. BOOKERite

5:48pm Sat 28 Jul 12

Agniesca says...

I have seen international judo competitions held in the present centre. The car parking coped, just. The site is currently used for sporting activities, why start again from scratch with another site where the same problems would arise, but at a greater up front and curring cost
I have seen international judo competitions held in the present centre. The car parking coped, just. The site is currently used for sporting activities, why start again from scratch with another site where the same problems would arise, but at a greater up front and curring cost Agniesca

7:54pm Sat 28 Jul 12

BOOKERite says...

Agniesca wrote:
I have seen international judo competitions held in the present centre. The car parking coped, just. The site is currently used for sporting activities, why start again from scratch with another site where the same problems would arise, but at a greater up front and curring cost
You are obviously using this story as a PR exercise for the Judo Club, which is ok. I respect the club and I know just how important the sporting activities are there, that is why I accept that WDC will be using tax payer's money to extend the car park mostly for the club's benefit. But I don't think there would be enough room on the rec for the kind of activities that you are suggesting.
[quote][p][bold]Agniesca[/bold] wrote: I have seen international judo competitions held in the present centre. The car parking coped, just. The site is currently used for sporting activities, why start again from scratch with another site where the same problems would arise, but at a greater up front and curring cost[/p][/quote]You are obviously using this story as a PR exercise for the Judo Club, which is ok. I respect the club and I know just how important the sporting activities are there, that is why I accept that WDC will be using tax payer's money to extend the car park mostly for the club's benefit. But I don't think there would be enough room on the rec for the kind of activities that you are suggesting. BOOKERite

10:45pm Sat 28 Jul 12

gpn01 says...

Isn't WDC's Cabinet meeting on Monday including a proposal about the proposed new sports facility at Handy Cross? Might be worth going along to hear more about the overall proposal, where the money is coming from, etc.
Isn't WDC's Cabinet meeting on Monday including a proposal about the proposed new sports facility at Handy Cross? Might be worth going along to hear more about the overall proposal, where the money is coming from, etc. gpn01

10:47pm Sat 28 Jul 12

gpn01 says...

gpn01 wrote:
Isn't WDC's Cabinet meeting on Monday including a proposal about the proposed new sports facility at Handy Cross? Might be worth going along to hear more about the overall proposal, where the money is coming from, etc.
Whoops. Did I say Monday? I meant Tuesday. 31st July. 5:30pm.
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: Isn't WDC's Cabinet meeting on Monday including a proposal about the proposed new sports facility at Handy Cross? Might be worth going along to hear more about the overall proposal, where the money is coming from, etc.[/p][/quote]Whoops. Did I say Monday? I meant Tuesday. 31st July. 5:30pm. gpn01

8:06pm Tue 7 Aug 12

DonRockell says...

The simple fact is that they have done the financial deals probably signed and sold off the old sport center site already and need to get moving before the buyer changes their minds.

Having a say in whats going to happen. be serious, the deals been done and no amount of complaining or making demands to be heard is ever going to hit them hard enough in the pocket to change whats going to happen.

The only way to hurt them is to stand and win against them at the local elections and then stand up for what the public wants and not their financial backers.
The simple fact is that they have done the financial deals probably signed and sold off the old sport center site already and need to get moving before the buyer changes their minds. Having a say in whats going to happen. be serious, the deals been done and no amount of complaining or making demands to be heard is ever going to hit them hard enough in the pocket to change whats going to happen. The only way to hurt them is to stand and win against them at the local elections and then stand up for what the public wants and not their financial backers. DonRockell

8:53pm Tue 7 Aug 12

gpn01 says...

DonRockell wrote:
The simple fact is that they have done the financial deals probably signed and sold off the old sport center site already and need to get moving before the buyer changes their minds.

Having a say in whats going to happen. be serious, the deals been done and no amount of complaining or making demands to be heard is ever going to hit them hard enough in the pocket to change whats going to happen.

The only way to hurt them is to stand and win against them at the local elections and then stand up for what the public wants and not their financial backers.
It's not a fact at all. Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, then what you're expressing is an opinion.
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Claims that something is "a done deal" is simply defeatist.
[quote][p][bold]DonRockell[/bold] wrote: The simple fact is that they have done the financial deals probably signed and sold off the old sport center site already and need to get moving before the buyer changes their minds. Having a say in whats going to happen. be serious, the deals been done and no amount of complaining or making demands to be heard is ever going to hit them hard enough in the pocket to change whats going to happen. The only way to hurt them is to stand and win against them at the local elections and then stand up for what the public wants and not their financial backers.[/p][/quote]It's not a fact at all. Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, then what you're expressing is an opinion. . Claims that something is "a done deal" is simply defeatist. gpn01

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