Getting Wycombe ready for the next upturn (From Bucks Free Press)
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Getting Wycombe ready for the next upturn
6:30pm Tuesday 30th June 2009
The other day I arrived home to find a leaflet on the black box recycling scheme pushed through my door. Apparently a neighbour told me that a delivery person had been round with the leaflets.
A few days later yet another leaflet was put through the door. This leaflet was entitled “Imagine the future 5… Delivering the strategy for Wycombe”
That’s two separate deliveries made on two separate days all of which are paid for from the Council Tax. I just could not believe how inefficient the delivery process is.
Surely it would have been possible to have sent one person round to deliver both the leaflets at the same time and saved the tax payer money? Is there no coordination or concern for cost at our town hall?
The size of a tabloid paper and printed in full colour the IF5 leaflet contained information on the future development of Wycombe. The front page article says how the complex has been the biggest change in Wycombe for years and how it has been a positive catalyst for the area.
A positive catalyst? I could not believe the choice of words especially when you consider how the shops moved overnight leaving the old part of town desolate and covered in “To Let” signs. On page five of the leaflet the presence of the empty shops is blamed on the economic downturn.
The IF5 leaflet says plans to fill the empty shops in the “historic core” of the town (i.e. around White Hart Street and Church Square) involve allowing businesses to set up in certain parts of Wycombe “without even going through the red tape of applying for planning permission”.
If the areas of town concerned were attractive business would have set up there long ago and waiving the planning permission process is not going to alter the profitability and create sustainable businesses.
The trouble isn’t caused by planning permission. No. The trouble was caused when our town centre had its heart ripped out thanks to the infernal complex providing more retail space than is required.
Amazingly the leaflet is splattered with headlines like “High Wycombe: A town ready for the next upturn” and “Building a sustainable Wycombe”. I am not fooled by the slogans or management speak.
In order to get ready for the upturn very little apart from cosmetic window dressing seems to be planned.
What makes me angry it that people are working their fingers to the bone earning the minimum wage to pay their Council Tax while the powers that be are squandering the money earned on delivering these silly leaflets to our houses in an inefficient manner.
Have you had an IF5 leaflet? What did you think to it?
Comments(121)
ivor
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8:05pm Tue 30 Jun 09
If you haven’t seen it yet then you haven’t missed much.
I agree that we need to promote out town more otherwise we are doomed.
The M40 junction needs something doing to it. How about building the football stadium there? It should be a Council owned stadium let out to the teams who want to play there.
I agree that Wycombe has a very bright future if only its potential was harnessed correctly.
OllieNewbury
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8:32pm Tue 30 Jun 09
I knew there would be some Eden bashing lurking somewhere in this blog!
ivor
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8:34pm Tue 30 Jun 09
I am not “bashing” just remarking on the comments in the leaflet! Besides what I have said is correct.
I am wondering if the leaflet refers to the Wycombe that I see everyday or is this another town somewhere else?
Spitfire
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9:52pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Either the neighbour told you someone had delivered it or your neighbour didn't - there's no "apparently" about it, you were there! Apparently.
And a very good way to tell if someone is lying to you is if they start their sentence with the word 'apparently'.
faisal mahmood
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10:01pm Tue 30 Jun 09
you are right about the slogan it made me laugh when reading it the other day.
the sands area of high wycombe will be given improvements and i hope more street cleaning as upper green street is a mess at the moment.
so you are earning the minimum wage?
but still have 2 cars and live in a simi house?
and you moan about having less money to buy your food?
i think the council should repay some of the money to people if they do not want silly magazine and leaflet coming through the post!
good blog on the IF5 leaflet
Spitfire
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10:01pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Ivor, if you want a Community Stadium then you have to be aware that "the community" will pay for it. It will take many a long year before revenues from the football and rugby team make up for your increased council tax bill to build the thing in the first place. dumb as$.
faisal mahmood
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10:10pm Tue 30 Jun 09
faisal mahmood wrote:the only way to over come these objectives is by clli darren hayday pulling his finger out of his bum and sorting it out.
ivor
you are right about the slogan it made me laugh when reading it the other day.
the sands area of high wycombe will be given improvements and i hope more street cleaning as upper green street is a mess at the moment.
so you are earning the minimum wage?
but still have 2 cars and live in a simi house?
and you moan about having less money to buy your food?
i think the council should repay some of the money to people if they do not want silly magazine and leaflet coming through the post!
good blog on the IF5 leaflet
www.darrenhayday.com
ivor
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10:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09
What difference dos a word make? My neighbour told me what they saw and I believe them.
ivor
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10:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Yes, the sad thing is that the powers that be are sending out leaflets that very few people believe. Perhaps the people of Wycombe can see through the spin and marketing hype?
The magazines and leaflets are a total waste of money. They are all words and the wrong action!
Thank you for your kind words of praise.
ivor
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10:41pm Tue 30 Jun 09
A community stadium owned by the community would be far preferable to a stadium planned with huge amounts of tax payers money and owned by a private individual. Council Tax money should be used for the people and not to prop up private investors!
Spitfire
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10:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Which would you prefer?
ivor
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10:53pm Tue 30 Jun 09
If it is to be owned by the clubs who play there then they should but the land and pay ALL the planning, feasibility and construction costs. Not a penny of tax payer’s money should be used at all.
If a single penny of tax payer’s money is used then it should be wholly owned by the tax payer.
Of course there is no need for a new stadium at all as I have already proven on my blogs of recent months.
smiley cat
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11:17pm Tue 30 Jun 09
I like Wycombe as it is and as it will become.
Ivor - you are an idiot.
ivor
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11:20pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Well it seems that you may have already paid towards the feasibility study as (correct me if I am wrong) but wasn’t about £700k+ of tax payers money allocated towards the preliminary feasibility study of building a stadium at the aerodrome? Just think all that money will go towards building a stadium which may end up being owned by a private individual.
I liked Wycombe as it was. The princess has become a monster.
No. I am not an idiot.
smiley cat
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11:27pm Tue 30 Jun 09
ivor wrote:yes you are.
Re the comments of smiley cat at 11:17pm Well it seems that you may have already paid towards the feasibility study as (correct me if I am wrong) but wasn’t about £700k+ of tax payers money allocated towards the preliminary feasibility study of building a stadium at the aerodrome? Just think all that money will go towards building a stadium which may end up being owned by a private individual. I liked Wycombe as it was. The princess has become a monster. No. I am not an idiot.
An idiot and a fool - everyone but you can see it.
And I am with Spitfire - either your neighbour told you or he/she didn't.
Where does the 'apparently' come from?
LOL
ivor
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11:29pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Nope. I don’t think so.
My neighbour did tell me. I can’t see what the issue is. Would you like me to remove the word apparently?
OllieNewbury
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11:35pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Ivor cannot stand development and progress. That's why he yearns for the Wycombe of yesteryear.
smiley cat
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11:44pm Tue 30 Jun 09
You don't like Eden. You yearn for a Wycombe that was ( or wasn't).
That is fair enough - you are entitled to think that.
BUT you have NO evidence at all to show that anyone agrees with you at all.
Hearsay and hyperbole is not evidence.
Until you show hard cold facts and numbers, then I think you will continue to look very foolish.
ivor
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11:48pm Tue 30 Jun 09
If you want to see the leaflet go to the website of the powers that be and search on “Imagine the Future 5: Summer 2009”. Click on the link that matched exactly what you searched on (I think it is the third link returned). Scroll down the page again until you come to the newsletter section. Each page of the document is listed individually.
I heartily welcome development and progress providing it is for the better. Look what the last re-development did to the town. It killed it overnight!
ivor
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11:50pm Tue 30 Jun 09
I am confident that I have the backing of the silent majority. Besides even if nobody did agree with me then at least you have to given me credit for sticking to my views. It takes a brave man to stand up and speak out when all around him may disagree knowing that eventually they will come round to his view point given time. This signs of a natural leader perhaps?
smiley cat
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11:58pm Tue 30 Jun 09
ivor wrote:Or a deluded fool...
Re the comments of smiley cat at 11:44pm I am confident that I have the backing of the silent majority. Besides even if nobody did agree with me then at least you have to given me credit for sticking to my views. It takes a brave man to stand up and speak out when all around him may disagree knowing that eventually they will come round to his view point given time. This signs of a natural leader perhaps?
OllieNewbury
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12:38am Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:I have just read the online newsletter, and I agree with everything it says.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:35pm
If you want to see the leaflet go to the website of the powers that be and search on “Imagine the Future 5: Summer 2009”. Click on the link that matched exactly what you searched on (I think it is the third link returned). Scroll down the page again until you come to the newsletter section. Each page of the document is listed individually.
I heartily welcome development and progress providing it is for the better. Look what the last re-development did to the town. It killed it overnight!
I welcome the opening up of the river and the re-routing of the A40. I also welcome new development, primarily on brownfield sites, but also on greenfield sites when necessary.
Wycombe is certainly going to progress for the better in the next decade!
ivor
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12:53am Wed 1 Jul 09
No. I don’t think so. Wouldn’t you look silly if I was proven right!
ivor
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12:54am Wed 1 Jul 09
So you think the town centre has many empty shops because of the economic crisis? The fact they all became empty when the complex happened was just a coincidence was it?
So you welcome development on green field sites? I totally disagree with that idea.
Will the changes be for the better? Only time will tell. I fear they will not be.
OllieNewbury
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1:51am Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Eden opening certainly drew shops to that side of town, but it's the economic crisis which has closed shops like Woolworths. The fact that I can't think of any other shops which have closed shows that many of the best known and well used shops are still open.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 12:38am
So you think the town centre has many empty shops because of the economic crisis? The fact they all became empty when the complex happened was just a coincidence was it?
So you welcome development on green field sites? I totally disagree with that idea.
Will the changes be for the better? Only time will tell. I fear they will not be.
Everything was once green space. The house you live in was once a field. Green space has to be the next option, once all brownfield sites are used up.
The changes will be for the better. Stop being so bloody negative!
ivor
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1:57am Wed 1 Jul 09
If the opening of the complex had been planned properly there would have been no “draw” to the other side of town!
The economic crisis may have closed dear old Woolworths but that is just one shop and is insignificant in terms of Wycombe’s problems.
No you say use green field when all the brown field are used up. I fear the powers that be will take the Greenfield before using all the brown field!
I have seen some changes that are for the better but on the whole the changes that I see usually turn out for the worst. I am not negative but perhaps I have higher standards that most people and as a result I expect too much.
OllieNewbury
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2:24am Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:How can you open a new shopping centre without drawing shops away from the other side of town?
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:51am
If the opening of the complex had been planned properly there would have been no “draw” to the other side of town!
The economic crisis may have closed dear old Woolworths but that is just one shop and is insignificant in terms of Wycombe’s problems.
No you say use green field when all the brown field are used up. I fear the powers that be will take the Greenfield before using all the brown field!
I have seen some changes that are for the better but on the whole the changes that I see usually turn out for the worst. I am not negative but perhaps I have higher standards that most people and as a result I expect too much.
I'm sure the powers that be will use all the brownfield sites available.
You are very negative, and your standards are ridiculous. Your criteria are outdated as well.
brachyura
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7:09am Wed 1 Jul 09
From the first paragraph, it seems he was puzzled by the appearance of a leaflet on his door mat and had to ask a neighbour how it got there. Fortunately the neighbour reassured him that some one had delivered it (I have no idea what other possible reasons were going through Ivor's mind as to how it got there!).
He is obviously a lonely man and his attack on Eden is no doubt away to get more comments (after is rather bland blog on the Rye).
smiley cat
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8:08am Wed 1 Jul 09
brachyura wrote:Spot on Brachy as normal.
Perhaps people shouldn't be too hard on Ivor. From the first paragraph, it seems he was puzzled by the appearance of a leaflet on his door mat and had to ask a neighbour how it got there. Fortunately the neighbour reassured him that some one had delivered it (I have no idea what other possible reasons were going through Ivor's mind as to how it got there!). He is obviously a lonely man and his attack on Eden is no doubt away to get more comments (after is rather bland blog on the Rye).
He is also a very large drama queen and likes to embelish.
Sadly he has the writing capability of a 10 year old - but at least a 10 year old will improve.
Spitfire
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9:24am Wed 1 Jul 09
678
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11:22am Wed 1 Jul 09
smiley cat
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12:21pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Spitfire wrote:Superdrug did..
How many shops moved from the High Street to Eden? I can't think of any and certainly the biggest hole ripped in the town centre is the empty husk of the old Woolworths store. This had nothing to do with Eden.
Sorry Spitfire :)
Spitfire
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4:40pm Wed 1 Jul 09
The town had been moving that way that a while anyway and I question whether the High Street was 'the heart' of the town even before Eden.
Plus ça change...
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5:38pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Plus ça change... at 7:47pm If you haven’t seen it yet then you haven’t missed much. I agree that we need to promote out town more otherwise we are doomed. The M40 junction needs something doing to it. How about building the football stadium there? It should be a Council owned stadium let out to the teams who want to play there. I agree that Wycombe has a very bright future if only its potential was harnessed correctly.
'The M40 junction needs something doing to it'
You misunderstand me.
We need something NEAR the junction just to let people know we are 'open for business'.
A tower - 150 metres high.
Kite high... with viewing platforms, outside lifts, restaurants.
Offering fantastic views and grabbing the attention of all those who pass by.
ivor
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11:02pm Wed 1 Jul 09
The powers the be should have ensured there were enough NEW shops coming in to fill any vacuum that may have been created. It seems they overlooked this issue resulting in the catastrophe we seen today.
But will they use the brown field sites first? Did you not read in the IF5 leaflet that some green field sites may be used and apparently the public are supportive of this.
I am positive where things are good. So what if my standards are high at least you will not find me stooping down into the gutter. What’s wrong with being old fashioned?
ivor
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11:02pm Wed 1 Jul 09
No. I only wondered if the postman delivered the leaflet of it someone had come round specially.
I am not lonely. What was bland about my blog on the Rye?
ivor
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11:03pm Wed 1 Jul 09
No. I say things as they are. Obviously some people will not like the truth but I can’t hep about that.
ivor
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11:03pm Wed 1 Jul 09
What about the hi-fi shop that used to be in the High Street between the chemist and Woolworths?
ivor
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11:03pm Wed 1 Jul 09
I think the footfall went because the bus station was moved. It is now too far from the real town centre meaning that lots of people no longer come to town by bus.
ivor
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11:03pm Wed 1 Jul 09
And don’t forget the hi-fi shop that used to be between the chemist and Woolworths!
ivor
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11:04pm Wed 1 Jul 09
Well, I think the High Street was the centre of the town.
ivor
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11:04pm Wed 1 Jul 09
What about a big neon sign saying “open for business” with an arrow pointing towards the town centre?
Who would want to go up a tower to see a view of the motorway? The most suitable sight for a 150m tower would be on the top of the hill at Downley. Just think what the view would be like from there!
Spitfire
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11:28pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:The old carbuncle of a bus station was nowhere near the high street either. A 6 minute walk rather than a 5 minute walk dodging muggers and drug addicts would not stop anyone going to the high street.
Re the comments of 678 at 11:22am
I think the footfall went because the bus station was moved. It is now too far from the real town centre meaning that lots of people no longer come to town by bus.
For a long time it has not been the centre of town. It is only the name that makes you think it should remain the centre of town.
The Sony Centre is not a shop. It's an expensive showcase of Sony's wares. I know no-one foolish enough to buy there when they could go to Lakes and get excellent advice and service.
OllieNewbury
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11:31pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:There is nothing wrong with being old fashioned. But you can't apply your out dated views onto others and sulk when they reject them.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 2:24am
The powers the be should have ensured there were enough NEW shops coming in to fill any vacuum that may have been created. It seems they overlooked this issue resulting in the catastrophe we seen today.
But will they use the brown field sites first? Did you not read in the IF5 leaflet that some green field sites may be used and apparently the public are supportive of this.
I am positive where things are good. So what if my standards are high at least you will not find me stooping down into the gutter. What’s wrong with being old fashioned?
You are negative most of the time, mainly because Wycombe has climbed out of the rut it was in thirty years ago.
OllieNewbury
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11:33pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You say things as YOU think they are.
Re the comments of smiley cat at 8:08am
No. I say things as they are. Obviously some people will not like the truth but I can’t hep about that.
You may not have noticed, but very few people on here agree with you.
OllieNewbury
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11:34pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:For **** sake! The new bus station is about a minutes walk away from the old site. Your reasoning has no basis. No one but you liked the old bus garage- please please please accept that!
Re the comments of 678 at 11:22am
I think the footfall went because the bus station was moved. It is now too far from the real town centre meaning that lots of people no longer come to town by bus.
OllieNewbury
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11:37pm Wed 1 Jul 09
ivor wrote:As I said weeks ago, the town centre has been shifting westwards for years, well before Eden was built.
Re the comments of Spitfire at 4:40pm
Well, I think the High Street was the centre of the town.
It's geography. The central focus of many towns shifts unless something is done to repel it.
ivor
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11:54pm Wed 1 Jul 09
How dare you refer to the magnificent Newlands Bus Station in such a way! It was right next to the Octagon which led out to the High Street. What could be closer than that?
The old Library made people go down the High Street. When the library moved the High Street foot fall declined. This is a shame.
In the past I have bought electrical equipment from the electrical shop you mention in Oxford Road. Their service is truly excellent and they are a credit to the town.
ivor
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12:00am Thu 2 Jul 09
I do not sulk! The Wycombe of 30 years ago was far better than the Wycombe of today. For a start the town was smaller and you could get a wider range of goods there.
ivor
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12:00am Thu 2 Jul 09
I do not care if people do not agree with me. Eventually they will see that I am right and come round to my way of thinking. At least I have the courage to stick to my views and as I have said before this is one of the characteristics of a great leader!
ivor
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12:00am Thu 2 Jul 09
It may be a minute’s walk for a youngster like you but from someone with an IWD like myself that distance is awfully long and painful.
The old bus garage had a charm of its own. It was a magnificent living atmosphere where you could live and breathe the busses.
ivor
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12:00am Thu 2 Jul 09
Then perhaps we should build a complex in the eastern part of town to move the focus back? At the current rate of movement in a few years the town centre will end up in West Wycombe!
Spitfire
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12:24am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor
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12:32am Thu 2 Jul 09
By going with the flow you will be at the mercy of the seas and will be carried away in a direction that maybe you do not want to go!
I am strong enough to guide my own path through life without the help of others or being blown in whatever direction they want me to go.
Spitfire
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12:48am Thu 2 Jul 09
You're pretty pathetic really.
ivor
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1:08am Thu 2 Jul 09
As I have said the economic climate will close the complex. I am still working on weekly black bin collections. Perhaps I should write a blog on the subject to re-ignite the issue?
OllieNewbury
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1:10am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You are a stupid man.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:31pm
I do not sulk! The Wycombe of 30 years ago was far better than the Wycombe of today. For a start the town was smaller and you could get a wider range of goods there.
OllieNewbury
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1:11am Thu 2 Jul 09
OllieNewbury wrote:Maybe that was a bit harsh, but I cannot see how you think that.
ivor wrote:You are a stupid man.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:31pm
I do not sulk! The Wycombe of 30 years ago was far better than the Wycombe of today. For a start the town was smaller and you could get a wider range of goods there.
OllieNewbury
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1:12am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:No they won't.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:33pm
I do not care if people do not agree with me. Eventually they will see that I am right and come round to my way of thinking. At least I have the courage to stick to my views and as I have said before this is one of the characteristics of a great leader!
You do talk a load of rubbish.
OllieNewbury
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1:14am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:If you could waddle to the old bus station, you can waddle to the new bus station.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:34pm
It may be a minute’s walk for a youngster like you but from someone with an IWD like myself that distance is awfully long and painful.
The old bus garage had a charm of its own. It was a magnificent living atmosphere where you could live and breathe the busses.
Let's not re-ignite the bus garage debate. We all agreed last time that the old bus station was crap.
OllieNewbury
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1:14am Thu 2 Jul 09
Spitfire wrote:Very well said.
We're you strong enough to close Eden? No. Strong enough to stop Woolworths closing? No. Strong enough to get weekly bin collections back? No.
You're pretty pathetic really.
OllieNewbury
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1:17am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You are a pathetic man, do you know that?
Re the comments of Spitfire at 12:48am
As I have said the economic climate will close the complex. I am still working on weekly black bin collections. Perhaps I should write a blog on the subject to re-ignite the issue?
I cannot believe that anyone would willingly predict and enjoy the downfall of a brand new shopping centre.
Any hope I had that you could talk sense has well and truly gone. I think it's now the time for you to go as well, Ivor.
ivor
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1:27am Thu 2 Jul 09
What is stupid to you is sensible to me!
ivor
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1:28am Thu 2 Jul 09
Yes it was harsh!
A town does not have to be big to be good. At least you could get everything you needed in the Wycombe of the past.
ivor
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1:28am Thu 2 Jul 09
No. I do not talk rubbish as it all seems so sensible to me.
ivor
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1:28am Thu 2 Jul 09
No. That little extra way to walk is too much for some people.
You thought that the old bus station was no good but I quite liked it!
ivor
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1:29am Thu 2 Jul 09
No. I am sure you are only agreeing to make me feel bad.
ivor
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1:29am Thu 2 Jul 09
But the shopping centre is not as good as it could have been. So far I have yet to buy a single thing from there.
Oh, don’t wish me gone. That would be awful.
OllieNewbury
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1:34am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Yet a few months ago you wanted Wycombe to be the 'powerhouse' of south Bucks.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:11am
Yes it was harsh!
A town does not have to be big to be good. At least you could get everything you needed in the Wycombe of the past.
Powerful towns aren't small towns, especially in Wycombe's case.
The average shopper (that includes me) can buy almost anything they need here in Wycombe. You may not like that, but it is true.
OllieNewbury
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1:35am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You are deluded. Hitler thought his ideas were sensible- did the 'silent majority' agree with him?
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:12am
No. I do not talk rubbish as it all seems so sensible to me.
You do talk rubbish.
OllieNewbury
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1:38am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:No it's not. If fatty can waddle from the High Street to the old bus station, fatty can waddle the extra hundred yards to the new garage.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:14am
No. That little extra way to walk is too much for some people.
You thought that the old bus station was no good but I quite liked it!
Yes, you liked it. I accept that. But no one else did and look what happened. It was knocked down! Good riddance!
ivor
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1:39am Thu 2 Jul 09
Wycombe can be the powerhouse of South Bucks but that does not mean that the town has to be large!
Well, I can’t get most of what I want in the complex. The sooner the new supermarket opens the better then I will not need to go anywhere near the infernal place.
ivor
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1:39am Thu 2 Jul 09
No. I am not deluded. One day you will come to see just how right I was. Just wait and see...
OllieNewbury
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1:40am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:That's because you are not normal. Not to be nasty, but you don't fit the model of the general shopper.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:17am
But the shopping centre is not as good as it could have been. So far I have yet to buy a single thing from there.
Oh, don’t wish me gone. That would be awful.
That's the shopper who wants clothes, books, DVDs, CDs etc, and the person who likes the cinema etc.
I have bought many things from Eden- mainly from Waterstones and HMV, but there are other shops I use.
ivor
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1:41am Thu 2 Jul 09
100 yards is 100 yards too much. When you are exhausted with bags of shopping you don’t want to walk further than necessary.
The day the old bus station was knocked down was a bad day for Wycombe. But I still have my fond memories of the place and lots of pictures to remind me of it.
ivor
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1:43am Thu 2 Jul 09
Well I am glad then because I don’t want to buy ladies underwear, new glasses or jewellery. If that the sort of thing that the men of today want then fine but it’s not for me.
I went into the music store but they don’t even sell proper vinyl records. Considering they are in the in thing I was amazed.
OllieNewbury
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1:45am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well, that's your loss and Eden's gain.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:34am
Wycombe can be the powerhouse of South Bucks but that does not mean that the town has to be large!
Well, I can’t get most of what I want in the complex. The sooner the new supermarket opens the better then I will not need to go anywhere near the infernal place.
Is Sainsbury's going to stock bench repair kits and lawnmowers?
OllieNewbury
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1:46am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:That's what your entire argument rests on: "One day you will see...".
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:35am
No. I am not deluded. One day you will come to see just how right I was. Just wait and see...
If you believe your predictions are true, you are not just deluded, you are insane.
OllieNewbury
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1:49am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:More crap. Just get over it.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:38am
100 yards is 100 yards too much. When you are exhausted with bags of shopping you don’t want to walk further than necessary.
The day the old bus station was knocked down was a bad day for Wycombe. But I still have my fond memories of the place and lots of pictures to remind me of it.
So you were the fat man seen smoking weed with the other druggies in Newlands. That explains everything!
OllieNewbury
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1:52am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Yes. You stick with your suit and bowler hat. That's the image people want in a leader...
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:40am
Well I am glad then because I don’t want to buy ladies underwear, new glasses or jewellery. If that the sort of thing that the men of today want then fine but it’s not for me.
I went into the music store but they don’t even sell proper vinyl records. Considering they are in the in thing I was amazed.
Am I missing something? How is vinyl 'in'? Don't tell me you still listen to your gramophone when you get home?!
brachyura
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6:36am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Actually I think a great leader is someone who has the courage to admit they made a mistake, and to listern to the opinions of others...not to blindly go on with their views regardless of what others think.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:33pm I do not care if people do not agree with me. Eventually they will see that I am right and come round to my way of thinking. At least I have the courage to stick to my views and as I have said before this is one of the characteristics of a great leader!
brachyura
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6:37am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well I found the piece on the Wycombe Council website about the Rye to be more informative and entertaining than your blog.
Re the comments of brachyura at 7:09am No. I only wondered if the postman delivered the leaflet of it someone had come round specially. I am not lonely. What was bland about my blog on the Rye?
smiley cat
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7:06am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:LOL
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:17am But the shopping centre is not as good as it could have been. So far I have yet to buy a single thing from there. Oh, don’t wish me gone. That would be awful.
Apart from all the food you have bought in the M and S food hall - or does that not count?
Liars have to have good memories Ivor ......
smiley cat
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7:15am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Who exactly are vinyl records the in thing with? The sad fat git's society perhaps?
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 1:40am Well I am glad then because I don’t want to buy ladies underwear, new glasses or jewellery. If that the sort of thing that the men of today want then fine but it’s not for me. I went into the music store but they don’t even sell proper vinyl records. Considering they are in the in thing I was amazed.
Vinyl records, I believe are now very specialist and actually HMV do stock some for the few people that want them.
Please do not insult anyone's intelligence by coming out with such crap.
You are a man in his fifties who is old before his time. You are showing yourself to be ignorant and stupid and unaware of new technology - a bit like a village idiot in fact.
If that is not the case then I suggest you make amends.
Another thing - Spitfire was spot on - that Sony shop really was just a show room. How the heck did you manage to shop there with your meagre salary?
You really do talk drivel Ivor.
People come on here to read OUR comments and to laugh and wonder at the spoutings of the idiot of Wycombe.
OMG Wycombe has it's own idiot!
I wonder if that could be a selling point - come see the town's idiot and listen to his ravings.....
brachyura
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7:33am Thu 2 Jul 09
Although that contradicts his views about shopping in the town centre..
Agree with the rest of your comment though.
One question
"Why did the BFP decide giving Ivor a blog was a good idea?"
Melanie1
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7:45am Thu 2 Jul 09
Plus ça change...
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9:07am Thu 2 Jul 09
ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Plus ça change... at 5:38pm What about a big neon sign saying “open for business” with an arrow pointing towards the town centre? Who would want to go up a tower to see a view of the motorway? The most suitable sight for a 150m tower would be on the top of the hill at Downley. Just think what the view would be like from there!
Naaaaah.
Your neon sign would be tacky and cheap.
Wycombe has greater aspirations.
You would see over vast areas of Bucks with a 150 metre tall tower -spectacular views of the District.
We would commune with the kites.
It would put us on the map!
Eat your hearts out, Blackpool Tower and Angel of the North!
In Wycombe all in one....!
Plus ça change...
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9:10am Thu 2 Jul 09
... and it must be visible from and close to Handy Cross, the gateway to our district.
You miss the symbolism and its dual purpose...!
ivor
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12:53am Fri 3 Jul 09
No. But the new supermarket will (hopefully) stock a wider range of food including cheese triangles and whole sticks of celery!
ivor
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12:53am Fri 3 Jul 09
What you would say if my predictions DID come true?
ivor
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12:54am Fri 3 Jul 09
One day you will get older then you will appreciate how old age affects you.
No. I do not indulge in the sort of activities you mention.
ivor
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12:54am Fri 3 Jul 09
At least those who wear suits are dressed smartly!
What’s wrong with listening to a proper record on vinyl?
ivor
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12:54am Fri 3 Jul 09
But a great leader does not let himself be detracted from his vision!
ivor
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12:54am Fri 3 Jul 09
No doubt you would say that you find anything more informative than my blog. You just don’t know how to be hurtful enough.
ivor
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12:55am Fri 3 Jul 09
No. I do not count the food hall.
No. I am most definitely not a liar either.
ivor
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12:55am Fri 3 Jul 09
What a terrible thing to say. Vinyl records are more popular than you think.
New technology is good when it works but sadly most of the time it is a hindrance to us in out daily lives.
I never bought from the hi-fi shop in the High Street. I said that I frequented the shop in Oxford Road.
ivor
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12:55am Fri 3 Jul 09
Yes, it was the shop in Oxford Road.
ivor
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12:55am Fri 3 Jul 09
Oh, one day you will say something nice about me. Do you get pleasure out of saying such hurtful things?
ivor
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12:55am Fri 3 Jul 09
Why build a tower though? Surely it would only attract those wising to commit suicide?
ivor
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12:56am Fri 3 Jul 09
Yes, I do miss the dual purpose. Please enlighten me.
smiley cat
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7:48am Fri 3 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Sorry - is Marks and Spencers not part of the Eden Centre then?
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:06am No. I do not count the food hall. No. I am most definitely not a liar either.
smiley cat
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7:52am Fri 3 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Have you evidence - frstly of the number of vinyl records that are bought as opposed to the number of CDs and downloads?
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:15am What a terrible thing to say. Vinyl records are more popular than you think. New technology is good when it works but sadly most of the time it is a hindrance to us in out daily lives. I never bought from the hi-fi shop in the High Street. I said that I frequented the shop in Oxford Road.
Also new technology - please give evidence of how it is a hindrance in people's lives - not YOUR life - no one gives a toss. I want cold hard facts.
Plus ça change...
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6:02pm Fri 3 Jul 09
ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Plus ça change... at 9:10am Yes, I do miss the dual purpose. Please enlighten me.
Doh!
1. Promotes the District by being near the HC roundabout
2. Is a spectacular viewing tower & attraction
localmanhassay
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2:14am Sat 4 Jul 09
2 weekly collections of FOOD waste during hot weather.... Sorry but i dont pay council tax to live with the stench of rotting food outside my property. No doubt nothing will ever get done theyd sooner penny pinch then spend it on there stupid "meetings" where nothing of much importance ever seems to get done.... How about a knife amnesty....
ivor
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3:53pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Well, yes, it is but I do not count is a part of the complex.
ivor
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3:53pm Sat 4 Jul 09
The number of vinyl records bought is irrelevant. The fact is that vinyl records are still being made and sold today despite the technology being very old. It’s great that there is still a market for something that has been around for so long.
Everyone’s life is blighted by modern technology. From the mobile phone that has a battery that doesn’t last long enough to the computer that refuses to connect to the internet. Yes, the new-fangled technology so prevalent has the potential to cause chaos when it malfunctions.
ivor
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3:53pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Surely such a high town will spoil the District? Will it not be a blot on the landscape?
I still think that Downley is a better location. The spectacular views over Hughenden and towards Stokenchurch would be marvellous.
ivor
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3:54pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Yes, the green bins are getting a bit whiffy. Perhaps I should do a blog on the subject.
Would it not be better for the police to actually do their jobs and catch the yobbos who carry the knives?
tom.marlow
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4:27pm Sat 4 Jul 09
ivor wrote:So which "old" mobile communications technology are you thinking of that didnt have battery lifetime problems? Semaphore? Smoke signals?
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:52am The number of vinyl records bought is irrelevant. The fact is that vinyl records are still being made and sold today despite the technology being very old. It’s great that there is still a market for something that has been around for so long. Everyone’s life is blighted by modern technology. From the mobile phone that has a battery that doesn’t last long enough to the computer that refuses to connect to the internet. Yes, the new-fangled technology so prevalent has the potential to cause chaos when it malfunctions.
Connection to the internet is a modern replacement for which old, more reliable technology?
I'm sorry but my life is made easier by mobile telephony and the internet, not blighted by them.
If they are putting that much of a blight on your life, I suggest you stop using them.
OllieNewbury
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5:09pm Sat 4 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well you're an idiot then, because M&S is part of Eden.
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:48am
Well, yes, it is but I do not count is a part of the complex.
Fool.
OllieNewbury
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5:11pm Sat 4 Jul 09
ivor wrote:More crap. If the internet didn't exist, how would we read your **** blogs?
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:52am
The number of vinyl records bought is irrelevant. The fact is that vinyl records are still being made and sold today despite the technology being very old. It’s great that there is still a market for something that has been around for so long.
Everyone’s life is blighted by modern technology. From the mobile phone that has a battery that doesn’t last long enough to the computer that refuses to connect to the internet. Yes, the new-fangled technology so prevalent has the potential to cause chaos when it malfunctions.
As Tom said, be a luddite if you want, but don't inflict your hypocritical ways on us.
smiley cat
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5:26pm Sat 4 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You ridiculous creature - it is about supply and demand and if only a very few people buy vinyl records then shops will not stock them - end.
Re the comments of smiley cat at 7:52am The number of vinyl records bought is irrelevant. The fact is that vinyl records are still being made and sold today despite the technology being very old. It’s great that there is still a market for something that has been around for so long. Everyone’s life is blighted by modern technology. From the mobile phone that has a battery that doesn’t last long enough to the computer that refuses to connect to the internet. Yes, the new-fangled technology so prevalent has the potential to cause chaos when it malfunctions.
As for the second part of your post - how DARE you speak for other people!
A blog is about ONE person's opinion- not that of many.
I love and embrace modern technology - and there is nothing wrong with the battery on my mobile phone.
You cannot go on about modern technology when you freely admit to having 2 computers and a digital camera.
If you hate it all that much, do us a a favour and get rid of all of it.
Then we wouldn't have to put up with your juvenile blatherings and YOU would not appear to be quite the foolish hypocrite as you seem.
ivor
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1:21am Sun 5 Jul 09
But modern communications devices are so complicated. Running on infernal internal batteries that always seem to go flat just when you don’t need it.
You are lucky if you find the technology helpful.
ivor
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1:21am Sun 5 Jul 09
It may be part of the complex but it is on the outer edge. You would have thought that such a flagship store would have been put right in the middle of the complex.
ivor
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1:22am Sun 5 Jul 09
Yes, the internet is good because everyone can read my blogs! I hadn’t thought of that!
ivor
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1:22am Sun 5 Jul 09
But those computers and camera cause all sorts of problems when I come to use them. If only they came up with a mechanical computer then perhaps I could get the problems sorted out with a spanner and screwdriver rather than a soldering iron.
OllieNewbury
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2:06am Sun 5 Jul 09
ivor wrote:As opposed to the good old 1950s when it took half an hour to get connected to someone on the phone!
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 4:27pm
But modern communications devices are so complicated. Running on infernal internal batteries that always seem to go flat just when you don’t need it.
You are lucky if you find the technology helpful.
You do talk rubbish.
OllieNewbury
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2:07am Sun 5 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Ohhhhhhhh!
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 5:09pm
It may be part of the complex but it is on the outer edge. You would have thought that such a flagship store would have been put right in the middle of the complex.
First of all, the flagship store is House of Fraser.
That store is in the centre.
OllieNewbury
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2:08am Sun 5 Jul 09
ivor wrote:What a load of ****!
Re the comments of smiley cat at 5:26pm
But those computers and camera cause all sorts of problems when I come to use them. If only they came up with a mechanical computer then perhaps I could get the problems sorted out with a spanner and screwdriver rather than a soldering iron.
tom.marlow
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8:45am Sun 5 Jul 09
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Plus ça change... says...
7:47pm Tue 30 Jun 09
Not seen it yet.
But we should be 'selling' Wycombe better outside the town and area & to neighbouring counties.
Not to ourselves...
Exactly why we need an identifiable feature near Handy Cross that tells the world they have arrived in Wycombe District.
Otherwise they just see one more samey junction on the M40 and mosey on by.
Wycombe and area has got so much going for it compared to many other parts of the country.