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Fit for nothing
6:41pm Tuesday 7th July 2009
I have finally decided to do something about my weight problem.
Matters came to a head the other day while visiting my neighbour. Yours truly was offered a slice of cake and naturally I accepted but unfortunately ate the whole cake myself.
It was sheer gluttony.
An apology was made for my actions and any suffering caused but my neighbour pointed out that it was me who was suffering as my gluttony was slowly killing me. How right they were.
My walks around the town centre at lunchtime may have kept my weight in check but they have had very little effect on actually reducing my weight.
It would appear that a more vigorous form of exercise was required however I don't have much money so how can I get fit for nothing?
Joining a gym is one option but membership rates are very high. With so many people battling obesity you would have thought the NHS would have set up gyms to help obese people become fit again for free.
I concluded that it was best to get some exercise equipment.
After looking in a home shopping catalogue it seems most of the equipment is only designed for people who weight 90kg (around 14 stone) or under.
If only I was 14 stones there would be no need for me to exercise! What’s the point of building an exercise machine that can’t be used by people who are grossly overweight?
Have you seen the price tag associated with fitness equipment?
On the web site of a well known department store the cheapest exercise bike is priced around £280, a rowing machine is just under £400 and a treadmill is £600. I fear my wallet will lose more pounds than me!
So what have I done in my quest to lose weight?
Well, my neighbour has kindly allowed me use of their exercise bicycle. After a couple of sessions on the bike I am feeling better already. Hopefully by sticking to a planned exercise regime and cutting back on food my weight will reduce and it won’t cost me a penny.
Losing weight is a very hard thing to do and it seems that businesses are cashing in on this with over priced machines and other gimmicks to fool the obese into parting with their money.
The weight loss/fitness business appears to be very lucrative indeed.
Comments(113)
OllieNewbury
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7:16pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Stop eating all the cakes and biscuits, and you're halfway there.
Walk more and do more exercise.
ivor
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7:33pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But I have tried that to no avail. Something more is needed indeed it’s time to ramp up my efforts.
There may have been many false starts but this time I am determined to get fit again.
ivor
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7:36pm Tue 7 Jul 09
No. I have tried cutting out the cakes, biscuits and fizzy drinks but nothing happened.
Indeed I will do more exercise not I have the use of an exercise bike.
In this blog I was hoping to highlight how business is making money from the plight of the obese when all that is needed is access to exercise equipment. Yet the NHS do not provide that access for free either (as far as I am aware).
OllieNewbury
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7:39pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well you haven't cut out the cakes have you? You ate an entire cake!
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 7:16pm
No. I have tried cutting out the cakes, biscuits and fizzy drinks but nothing happened.
Indeed I will do more exercise not I have the use of an exercise bike.
In this blog I was hoping to highlight how business is making money from the plight of the obese when all that is needed is access to exercise equipment. Yet the NHS do not provide that access for free either (as far as I am aware).
ivor
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7:41pm Tue 7 Jul 09
I guess there is a message there which is don’t put food in front of an obsess person. I could not help succumbing to temptation.
Is it responsible to tempt an overweight person in such a way?
Melanie1
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7:48pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Walk a little bit further a little bit faster everyday, eat salads and boiled potatoes or a jacket potato (both without butter) and something healthy like grilled chicken (without the skin), a poached egg or oily fish. A sandwich for lunch with a banana and a low fat/low cholesterol yoghurt and you'll soon see results.
Melanie1
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7:49pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Don't blame you neighbour for your obesity. I'm fairly certain they didn't expect you to eat the whole cake, after all what normal, sane person would?
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 7:39pm I guess there is a message there which is don’t put food in front of an obsess person. I could not help succumbing to temptation. Is it responsible to tempt an overweight person in such a way?
ivor
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7:52pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But surely tit is not ethical to make money from someone else’s misfortune especially when that misfortune may end up costing them their lives?
Surely we all pay out taxes so why doesn’t the NHS provide a free gym for the obese people rather than us having to pay full rate and have some faceless shareholder line their pockets from my misfortune?
I have tried cutting down on the food with little success. I need more than just smaller portions.
ivor
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7:54pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Indeed they did not expect me to eat the whole cake but they could not bring themselves to tell me to say stop for fear that it would look badly on them as hosts.
It was I who realised my mistake when I looked at the empty plate.
Do you not understand the problems of being obese? Was it right to put a whole cake in front of someone who was likely to eat it all?
demoness
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8:02pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Actually Ivor, many GPs and PCTs do prescribe gym membership for the clinically obese.
Re the comments of Melanie1 at 7:48pm But surely tit is not ethical to make money from someone else’s misfortune especially when that misfortune may end up costing them their lives? Surely we all pay out taxes so why doesn’t the NHS provide a free gym for the obese people rather than us having to pay full rate and have some faceless shareholder line their pockets from my misfortune? I have tried cutting down on the food with little success. I need more than just smaller portions.
The government has a strategy for tackling obesity. BUT the bottom line is this... the obese person has to want to diet, just as the smoker has to want to give up smoking.
Until they make that committment all the gyms, all the diets in the world won't be able to help them.
You are a classic Ivor - blaming everyone else but yourself for your weight problem.
Until you are ready to admit that it is no one's fault but your own then you will fail.
And actually Ivor, I mean this kindly - being very obese and not being able to stop eating should be treated like an addiction.. you are addicted to food.
I think you are a very unhappy soul - hence the negativity of your blogs. You try and make yourself better bty eating and you live for the attention you get on here.
My advice to you ... join a slimming club, meet some people there and see your GP about prescribed exercise.
OllieNewbury
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8:06pm Tue 7 Jul 09
You must develop self-control. Tell yourself not to eat the cake, instead ask for something more healthy.
Stop blaming other people. Obesity is a self-inlicted disease, the NHS should not be paying unless it is life-threatening.
Help yourself by eating right.
ivor
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8:07pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But is the gym membership prescribed by the GP’s free?
I think lots of the obsess people want to give up but they have to have a life changing moment t make them do so. How many people decide to get fir after the heart attack rather than before?
No. My weight problem is all down to me. Once I was slim but now I am far from that. Yes, I fear that I am addicted to food. It is like a drug to me and I need help to be weaned off that drug.
I am hopeful that the exercise bike will help me to lose weight. How nice it would be to be able to go to the complex and buy the clothes there. At the moment all the clothes they have are too small for me.
Thank you for your kind words of advice.
ivor
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8:10pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Indeed it is my own fault but it is right that others should offer food to an obese person? Would you offer alcohol to an alcoholic?
But what happens if that obesity is life threatening? Surely the life of anyone who is obese is in danger?
demoness
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8:13pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Yes the gym membership is free - I believe you are given vouchers.
Re the comments of demoness at 8:02pm But is the gym membership prescribed by the GP’s free? I think lots of the obsess people want to give up but they have to have a life changing moment t make them do so. How many people decide to get fir after the heart attack rather than before? No. My weight problem is all down to me. Once I was slim but now I am far from that. Yes, I fear that I am addicted to food. It is like a drug to me and I need help to be weaned off that drug. I am hopeful that the exercise bike will help me to lose weight. How nice it would be to be able to go to the complex and buy the clothes there. At the moment all the clothes they have are too small for me. Thank you for your kind words of advice.
You cannot blame others for offering you food - the only time that is irresponsible is if you clearly say you are on a diet and they insist.
Most people would respect you want to lose weight .
ivor
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8:17pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But food and the giving of food is a central part of hospitality. Perhaps the etiquette of our society needs to be reviewed in order to stop obesity?
Perhaps I should have a badge made that I can wear so people know that I am on a diet?
It’s always tricky to turn down food for fear of looking unsociable. I wonder if the same is true of drink and alcoholism?
Plus ça change...
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8:28pm Tue 7 Jul 09
You should know you can't have your cake and eat it too!
OllieNewbury
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8:36pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Alcohol is different. Everyone has to eat, but you don't have to drink alcohol to stay alive.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 8:06pm
Indeed it is my own fault but it is right that others should offer food to an obese person? Would you offer alcohol to an alcoholic?
But what happens if that obesity is life threatening? Surely the life of anyone who is obese is in danger?
You're going to be offered food everywhere you go, sometimes for free.
You must learn to say no.
ivor
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8:41pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Yes, very true words.
ivor
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8:42pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But surely other people should show responsibility when offering food to an obese person? You may end up killing them....
Spitfire
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9:05pm Tue 7 Jul 09
If I had no idea someone was trying to cut down their alcohol consumption I would readily offer them a beer. Same as if I had no idea someone was on a diet I would offer them a slice of cake or biscuit.
If however that same person said they were on a diet or trying to cut back on the booze I would refrain from offering them that which they were cutting back.
If you tell your friends you are on a diet they will support you. If they don't then they're not really your friends, are they?
ivor
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9:17pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Today I have eaten just six slices of bread and they were only small.
But surely seeing someone who is drunk it would be silly to offer them another? The same goes with food. There should be no need to say that you are on a diet.
demoness
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9:17pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:NO!!!!!
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 8:36pm But surely other people should show responsibility when offering food to an obese person? You may end up killing them....
The only time this will ever ring true is if it is a relative of the obese person - i.e a parent of a large child.
STOP trying to blame others - be a man and acknowledge your own failings.
If you have a stroke or heart attack, you have no one but yourself to blame.
OllieNewbury
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9:19pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:I have eaten no bread today. Beat that!
Re the comments of Spitfire at 9:05pm
Today I have eaten just six slices of bread and they were only small.
But surely seeing someone who is drunk it would be silly to offer them another? The same goes with food. There should be no need to say that you are on a diet.
That is not the point. You can't blame your obesity on others. When you go to a party, you cannot assume people will know you are on a diet. It is up to you to say no to the snacks!
Punchy
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9:24pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Buy a heart monitor, keep your heart rate at precisely 125 beats per minute during exercise. This will be walking pace to begin with, but as you get fitter you will start breaking into a slow run.
Exercise every day like this for 30-60 minutes. You will lose many stones if you do this exercise for 2-3 years.
What is more, you will also be able to eat what you want when you want with no weight gain!
ivor
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9:26pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But what if I had had a heart attack after eating that cake? How would my neighbour have felt? They would have given me the cake that killed me. No. I think others have a responsibility no to give food to the obese just like you don’t give drink to an alcoholic.
However I can see your point that I should not have eaten it in the first place. Is there not shared responsibility here?
ivor
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9:28pm Tue 7 Jul 09
If you haven’t eaten any bread then all I can say if that you sandwiches at lunchtime could not have been very good!
Indeed you are right. I shall have to try to resist eating the snacks. Although I fear that is easier said than done.
ivor
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9:33pm Tue 7 Jul 09
How do I know what 70% of my maximum effort is? What is 100%?
I am afraid of heart monitors just in case they show any problems up. Suppose I am so unfit that I have a heart attack while exercising?
Is there not a quicker way to lose weight? I was hoping to lose it all in a few months rather than years!
I like the idea of eating what I want when I want! That sounds good!
demoness
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9:39pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Your neighbour is probably sensible enough to realise that a cake will not give you a heart attack. It is the years of abuse of your body so STOP trying to blame others.
Re the comments of demoness at 9:17pm But what if I had had a heart attack after eating that cake? How would my neighbour have felt? They would have given me the cake that killed me. No. I think others have a responsibility no to give food to the obese just like you don’t give drink to an alcoholic. However I can see your point that I should not have eaten it in the first place. Is there not shared responsibility here?
You are now going off into the land of the ridiculous again and I need to go becaue quite frankly I do not have the wherewithall lol.
ivor
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9:42pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Oh dear. I guess you are right. Over the years (and it has taken my years to get like this) I have punished my poor body.
Thank you for your words of wisdom and making me realise what I have done to myself. Why did I ever let me get myself in this state?
OllieNewbury
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9:42pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:I didn't have sandwiches for lunch. During the summer, my family and I eat lots of salad- that is what I had for lunch.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 9:19pm
If you haven’t eaten any bread then all I can say if that you sandwiches at lunchtime could not have been very good!
Indeed you are right. I shall have to try to resist eating the snacks. Although I fear that is easier said than done.
OllieNewbury
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9:44pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:There you go again. Finding excuses not to do something.
Re the comments of Punchy at 9:24pm
How do I know what 70% of my maximum effort is? What is 100%?
I am afraid of heart monitors just in case they show any problems up. Suppose I am so unfit that I have a heart attack while exercising?
Is there not a quicker way to lose weight? I was hoping to lose it all in a few months rather than years!
I like the idea of eating what I want when I want! That sounds good!
If you are serious about losing a lot of weight, it will take more than a few months.
ivor
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9:46pm Tue 7 Jul 09
But surely you have a slice of bread and butter to go with your salad?
ivor
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9:48pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Well, I guess you are right. It took me years to put this lot on so it will probably take years to get rid of it.
So I have to go hungry for a couple of years? That’s not a very nice thought....
OllieNewbury
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9:52pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:No you don't.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 9:42pm
But surely you have a slice of bread and butter to go with your salad?
Do you know how much salt is in one slice of white bread? If you insist on eating lots of bread, at least buy wholemeal or granary.
Salad is perfectly fine as a meal on its own.
OllieNewbury
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9:53pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You don't have to go hungry. You can feel full perfectly well by eating sensibly.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 9:44pm
Well, I guess you are right. It took me years to put this lot on so it will probably take years to get rid of it.
So I have to go hungry for a couple of years? That’s not a very nice thought....
For a man on a diet, you don't know much about weight-loss do you? I suggest you buy a guidebook or join a slimming club.
ivor
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9:54pm Tue 7 Jul 09
I am not a great salad eater. I prefer proper cooked dinners and things with chips and mashed potatoes. I have potatoes with everything!
In the hot weather I have been buying bread as the bread maker makes the kitchen so hot but I did buy wholemeal bread and very nice it was too although not as good as what I make myself.
I don’t think I could live on lettuce leaves alone....
ivor
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9:55pm Tue 7 Jul 09
If I knew about weight loss then I would never be in my current state!
OllieNewbury
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10:03pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Eating tons of potatoes will not do you much good, especially as chips!
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 9:52pm
I am not a great salad eater. I prefer proper cooked dinners and things with chips and mashed potatoes. I have potatoes with everything!
In the hot weather I have been buying bread as the bread maker makes the kitchen so hot but I did buy wholemeal bread and very nice it was too although not as good as what I make myself.
I don’t think I could live on lettuce leaves alone....
Try eating salads. It's not just lettuce!
ivor
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10:09pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Oh dear. It seems that everything I eat is bad for me. I may have to change my entire diet!
I like beetroot and cucumber though. Now tell me they are bad for me....
OllieNewbury
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10:18pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Oh come on. You are not a stupid man, though you may try to pretend you are.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 10:03pm
Oh dear. It seems that everything I eat is bad for me. I may have to change my entire diet!
I like beetroot and cucumber though. Now tell me they are bad for me....
You know perfectly well which foods are good for you and which ones should be avoided.
If you really don't, join a slimming club.
Melanie1
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10:39pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Don't try and blame other people for your problems. If I put a gun in your hand it's not my fault if you bought bullets and shot someone, just as it's not your neighbours fault that you have no self control and ate an entire cake.
Start telling your 'friends' that you are on a diet and would appreciate their support, if they don't support you then they are not your friends.
Oh and stop trying to be provocative and blaming other people.
Melanie1
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10:41pm Tue 7 Jul 09
If you don't want to buy a heart monitor then you should be out of breath but still able to hold a conversation and this is burning calories. Within a couple of weeks of reasonably hard work you should start to notice results, both in weightloss and also in fitness levels.
faisal mahmood
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10:59pm Tue 7 Jul 09
I saw a white historic car driven by an old fat gentlemen on west wycombe today pass the job center plus.
was it you driving?
faisal mahmood
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11:09pm Tue 7 Jul 09
If you want to lose weight ask your doctor to put you on a diet alli program called alli diet
visit the web site http://www.allipills
.com
good luck
ivor
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11:22pm Tue 7 Jul 09
I am a very clever man but when if comes to food I am an imbecile. I know very little about it or how to cook it.
Are slimming clubs any good?
tom.marlow
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11:24pm Tue 7 Jul 09
ivor wrote:All a heart rate monitor tells you is your pulse rate. Its not like an ECG and won't tell you about any irregularities or defects.
Re the comments of Punchy at 9:24pm How do I know what 70% of my maximum effort is? What is 100%? I am afraid of heart monitors just in case they show any problems up. Suppose I am so unfit that I have a heart attack while exercising? Is there not a quicker way to lose weight? I was hoping to lose it all in a few months rather than years! I like the idea of eating what I want when I want! That sounds good!
What it does do though is help quantify the amount of work you are doing. Some of the less basic models let you enter your weight and height and calculate an approximate calorie burn. It can give you an idea of how much exercise you are actually getting.
The 70% punchy refers is actually 70% of your "maximum theoretical heart rate" - you can google that for more details. You can get a rough and ready number as 220 minus your age, so for example, if you are 50, it would be 170 bpm. 70% of this 119.
Sustained exercise at a relatively low work rate (i.e. 70% of max) is best for burning fat. Brisk walking will usually achieve this.
A good indication of how fit you are getting is how quickly your heart rate recovers when you stop exercising. A heart rate monitor will help you quantify that.
No matter how much exercise you do you still need to eat less too. I'm relatively fit, I can run 5 miles quite comfortably, (and do a couple of times a week) but I'm still about 10kg more than I would like to be. Its because I eat too much.
ivor
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11:24pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Perhaps I should take a note book with me and tot up how many calories I am eating each day?
I’ve just been looking at those pedometer things on the internet. I may well buy one and see how many calories I burn on my lunchtime walk around to town centre.
I am not tying to blame others however I think they should learn to be responsible when an obese person comes along.
ivor
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11:26pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Is it not dangerous to take diet pills? Are there any side effects?
Thank you for you kind words of praise.
Spitfire
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11:31pm Tue 7 Jul 09
tom.marlow wrote:Sorry to put this to you Tom but who do you blame for you eating too much? Is it your neighbours fault? The check out girl at the supermarket? TV advertisers maybe? How about the silent majority or, possibly, the powers that be?!?!
ivor wrote:All a heart rate monitor tells you is your pulse rate. Its not like an ECG and won't tell you about any irregularities or defects.
Re the comments of Punchy at 9:24pm How do I know what 70% of my maximum effort is? What is 100%? I am afraid of heart monitors just in case they show any problems up. Suppose I am so unfit that I have a heart attack while exercising? Is there not a quicker way to lose weight? I was hoping to lose it all in a few months rather than years! I like the idea of eating what I want when I want! That sounds good!
What it does do though is help quantify the amount of work you are doing. Some of the less basic models let you enter your weight and height and calculate an approximate calorie burn. It can give you an idea of how much exercise you are actually getting.
The 70% punchy refers is actually 70% of your "maximum theoretical heart rate" - you can google that for more details. You can get a rough and ready number as 220 minus your age, so for example, if you are 50, it would be 170 bpm. 70% of this 119.
Sustained exercise at a relatively low work rate (i.e. 70% of max) is best for burning fat. Brisk walking will usually achieve this.
A good indication of how fit you are getting is how quickly your heart rate recovers when you stop exercising. A heart rate monitor will help you quantify that.
No matter how much exercise you do you still need to eat less too. I'm relatively fit, I can run 5 miles quite comfortably, (and do a couple of times a week) but I'm still about 10kg more than I would like to be. Its because I eat too much.
Me? I eat too much because I eat too much. Cheddar mostly!
tom.marlow
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11:33pm Tue 7 Jul 09
Spitfire wrote:I don't blame anyone.
tom.marlow wrote:Sorry to put this to you Tom but who do you blame for you eating too much? Is it your neighbours fault? The check out girl at the supermarket? TV advertisers maybe? How about the silent majority or, possibly, the powers that be?!?! Me? I eat too much because I eat too much. Cheddar mostly!ivor wrote: Re the comments of Punchy at 9:24pm How do I know what 70% of my maximum effort is? What is 100%? I am afraid of heart monitors just in case they show any problems up. Suppose I am so unfit that I have a heart attack while exercising? Is there not a quicker way to lose weight? I was hoping to lose it all in a few months rather than years! I like the idea of eating what I want when I want! That sounds good!All a heart rate monitor tells you is your pulse rate. Its not like an ECG and won't tell you about any irregularities or defects. What it does do though is help quantify the amount of work you are doing. Some of the less basic models let you enter your weight and height and calculate an approximate calorie burn. It can give you an idea of how much exercise you are actually getting. The 70% punchy refers is actually 70% of your "maximum theoretical heart rate" - you can google that for more details. You can get a rough and ready number as 220 minus your age, so for example, if you are 50, it would be 170 bpm. 70% of this 119. Sustained exercise at a relatively low work rate (i.e. 70% of max) is best for burning fat. Brisk walking will usually achieve this. A good indication of how fit you are getting is how quickly your heart rate recovers when you stop exercising. A heart rate monitor will help you quantify that. No matter how much exercise you do you still need to eat less too. I'm relatively fit, I can run 5 miles quite comfortably, (and do a couple of times a week) but I'm still about 10kg more than I would like to be. Its because I eat too much.
I just like food.
OllieNewbury
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12:01am Wed 8 Jul 09
Also, we must take metabolic levels into account. Ivor may have a very low metabolism, which makes it very difficult for him to lose weight.
I suggest Ivor see his GP. It'll do you some good. Then, consider joining a slimming club. The people there are all in the same boat, and so working together will provide moral support. The club will also be able to give you advice on the glycemic index. Last but not least, it will give you the opportunity to meet people, maybe even some ladies!
ivor
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1:06am Wed 8 Jul 09
Well that’s good and bad that it won’t tell me of any defects. At least I wont have to worry knowing there is something wrong with me but I may just pop off anyway because I don’t know!
I take it these heart rate monitors are capable of dealing with obese people unlike the exercise equipment that you can buy in the shops.
Yes, I googled that subject and it was most informative. It was a surprise to know that you heart must slow down as you get older. I think I am reasonably fit although it’s the weight that is my problem.
Is anyone the ideal weight? Surely everyone is either over or under weight?
Thank you for that most helpful and informative comment.
ivor
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1:11am Wed 8 Jul 09
Well, they can’t advertise junk food to children anymore on TV so surely the same should go for the adults too?
Social responsibility is called for here I think. At bar-b-queues and buffets people should refrain from offering food to those who are overweight in order to help them and save their lives.
But what makes you eat too much? I would be very interested to hear your answer.
ivor
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1:11am Wed 8 Jul 09
But I like food too. Surely liking food is no different to liking drink or cigarettes as they will all end up killing you....
ivor
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1:12am Wed 8 Jul 09
No. I have never heard of the glycemic index. Do they publish the GI of food on the packaging? Perhaps they should?
I have already spoken to my GP. He too my weight and put it on my record. Unfortunately my weight has gone up since then so I feel that I can’t go back and see him until I have lost weight as I will look a fool.
But would I want to meet a lady at a slimming club? After all they will all be overweight....
Punchy
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7:37am Wed 8 Jul 09
I think Tom answered the questions you had on the heart rate stuff.
If you exercise every day as I said you will lose ALL excess weight over a period of years.
Ultimately, you will body will become an extremely efficient machine. What you eat will be promptly digested, what is needed will enter the bloodstream, what is not will get cr*pped back out very quickly.
You need to exercise EVERY DAY for this to happen. No matter what age you are, what weight you are, it will happen. Just do this exercise every day and forget about it - don't think every day what a hero you've just been, get straight on with the rest of your life immediately the workout is finished.
demoness
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8:03am Wed 8 Jul 09
ivor wrote:I really do not think you are in a position to worry about meeting an overweight female. I can imagine that NO female would be interested in you - and no that is nothing to do with your size - it is your personality.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 12:01am No. I have never heard of the glycemic index. Do they publish the GI of food on the packaging? Perhaps they should? I have already spoken to my GP. He too my weight and put it on my record. Unfortunately my weight has gone up since then so I feel that I can’t go back and see him until I have lost weight as I will look a fool. But would I want to meet a lady at a slimming club? After all they will all be overweight....
demoness
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8:50am Wed 8 Jul 09
Punchy wrote:Very true Punchy.
Hi Ivor I think Tom answered the questions you had on the heart rate stuff. If you exercise every day as I said you will lose ALL excess weight over a period of years. Ultimately, you will body will become an extremely efficient machine. What you eat will be promptly digested, what is needed will enter the bloodstream, what is not will get cr*pped back out very quickly. You need to exercise EVERY DAY for this to happen. No matter what age you are, what weight you are, it will happen. Just do this exercise every day and forget about it - don't think every day what a hero you've just been, get straight on with the rest of your life immediately the workout is finished.
I have had to leave the gym I was going to for a number of reasons... I miss exercise so much. I am going to start jogging and invest in some weights.
I figure 30 mins daily should be ample.
Spitfire
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8:51am Wed 8 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You're too incompetant to even stop yourself eating too much so now you want others to stop you for you?! Rediculous!
Re the comments of Spitfire at 11:31pm Well, they can’t advertise junk food to children anymore on TV so surely the same should go for the adults too? Social responsibility is called for here I think. At bar-b-queues and buffets people should refrain from offering food to those who are overweight in order to help them and save their lives. But what makes you eat too much? I would be very interested to hear your answer.
Come on, man-of-action, lose some weight!
tom.marlow
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9:10am Wed 8 Jul 09
Punchy wrote:Spot on, Punchy. Every day is key.
Hi Ivor I think Tom answered the questions you had on the heart rate stuff. If you exercise every day as I said you will lose ALL excess weight over a period of years. Ultimately, you will body will become an extremely efficient machine. What you eat will be promptly digested, what is needed will enter the bloodstream, what is not will get cr*pped back out very quickly. You need to exercise EVERY DAY for this to happen. No matter what age you are, what weight you are, it will happen. Just do this exercise every day and forget about it - don't think every day what a hero you've just been, get straight on with the rest of your life immediately the workout is finished.
And think a bit about what you are doing. The sort of 70% level being discussed here will burn 400-500 cals per hour (depending on your weight). A pizza is typically more than 1000 cals. That will take a long time to burn off, so best not eaten in the first place.
But to look on the positive side, the heavier you are, the more work you are doing when you exercise and the more claories you are burning :-)
demoness
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9:56am Wed 8 Jul 09
Ironic really considering that he is always banging on about how things were so much better years ago...
Punchy
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4:35pm Wed 8 Jul 09
It seems we are in broad agreement. One point though.
Very often you will here "medical types" say:
Calories eaten - calories burned = weight gain
It should actually be:
Calories eaten - calories burned - calories cr*pped = weight gain.
Tom, I think you can get to a level of fitness where you can literally eat an extra pizza if you want to, because your body will simply cr*p it out again.
I don't want to go into gory details, but serious athletes can produce calorie packed doo-doos!
Spitfire
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6:37pm Wed 8 Jul 09
faisal mahmood
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9:53pm Wed 8 Jul 09
ivor wrote:ivor
Re the comments of faisal mahmood at 11:09pm
Is it not dangerous to take diet pills? Are there any side effects?
Thank you for you kind words of praise.
no side effects from taking any diet pills read the labels!
when is the sands/green street blog coming!
buy yourself a walking stick to help with walking far from home!
faisal mahmood
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9:55pm Wed 8 Jul 09
demoness wrote:well said!
ivor wrote:Actually Ivor, many GPs and PCTs do prescribe gym membership for the clinically obese.
Re the comments of Melanie1 at 7:48pm But surely tit is not ethical to make money from someone else’s misfortune especially when that misfortune may end up costing them their lives? Surely we all pay out taxes so why doesn’t the NHS provide a free gym for the obese people rather than us having to pay full rate and have some faceless shareholder line their pockets from my misfortune? I have tried cutting down on the food with little success. I need more than just smaller portions.
The government has a strategy for tackling obesity. BUT the bottom line is this... the obese person has to want to diet, just as the smoker has to want to give up smoking.
Until they make that committment all the gyms, all the diets in the world won't be able to help them.
You are a classic Ivor - blaming everyone else but yourself for your weight problem.
Until you are ready to admit that it is no one's fault but your own then you will fail.
And actually Ivor, I mean this kindly - being very obese and not being able to stop eating should be treated like an addiction.. you are addicted to food.
I think you are a very unhappy soul - hence the negativity of your blogs. You try and make yourself better bty eating and you live for the attention you get on here.
My advice to you ... join a slimming club, meet some people there and see your GP about prescribed exercise.
ivor
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11:28pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Yes, Tom’s response was most detailed and most helpful.
I am saddened to hear that it could take years for me to lose this weight. Surely there must be a quicker way?
It looks as if I will have to become devoted to exercise rather than food although actually I am beginning to like the time spent on the exercise bike.
ivor
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11:28pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Oh dear. Your words are very disheartening. I don’t see there is anything wrong with m personality after all I am a happy, jovial person.
ivor
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11:28pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Can you really get fit with just30 minutes exercise a day.
ivor
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11:28pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Yes, I shall have to spring into action and lose weight indeed I have been on the exercise bike this evening.
ivor
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11:29pm Wed 8 Jul 09
500 calories an hour! If I did two hours that would be a thousand. I don’t like pizza.
But how will my weight help me if I am on an exercise bike? I can understand that walking would take more effort but I don’t see hoe my weight will come in to play if I am sitting down on a bike?
ivor
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11:29pm Wed 8 Jul 09
How do you know that I am not determined to lose weight?
ivor
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11:29pm Wed 8 Jul 09
My word! I had not thought of it like that!
ivor
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11:29pm Wed 8 Jul 09
What a terrible thing to say!
ivor
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11:29pm Wed 8 Jul 09
But surely there must be some side effects?
I have been busy recently but don’t worry I haven’t forgotten about the sands blog.
Indeed I already ha a walking stick but I am not reliant on it yet!
OllieNewbury
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11:38pm Wed 8 Jul 09
ivor wrote:There are quicker ways, but I don't your salary would afford them.
Re the comments of Punchy at 7:37am
Yes, Tom’s response was most detailed and most helpful.
I am saddened to hear that it could take years for me to lose this weight. Surely there must be a quicker way?
It looks as if I will have to become devoted to exercise rather than food although actually I am beginning to like the time spent on the exercise bike.
OllieNewbury
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11:41pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Now that I've seen a map of where the A40 will go, I'm not confused. WDC seems to be doing better. I'm especially looking forward to seeing the plans for the new sports centre.
ivor
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11:49pm Wed 8 Jul 09
Having a paltry income does limit the choices that you have when it comes to buying things.
ivor
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11:50pm Wed 8 Jul 09
But the IF5 newsletter was published in early June! IT just shows how slow and inefficient the delivery is.
Well I don’t agree with any of it! It’s a waste of money that will end up ruining our town.
OllieNewbury
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2:05am Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:I wasn't talking about a 'thing'. I was referring to certain procedures which can help you lose weight...
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:38pm
Having a paltry income does limit the choices that you have when it comes to buying things.
OllieNewbury
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2:06am Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well I've got it now.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:41pm
But the IF5 newsletter was published in early June! IT just shows how slow and inefficient the delivery is.
Well I don’t agree with any of it! It’s a waste of money that will end up ruining our town.
I'm very happy with it. Of course the old moaners such as yourself will always resist change, so I'm not surprised you're against it.
I thought you wanted the Wye to be opened up.
tom.marlow
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7:37am Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Thats a valid point actually. Weight makes much less difference when you are sitting on a bike. Its just the mass of your legs that affects the amount of work.
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 9:10am 500 calories an hour! If I did two hours that would be a thousand. I don’t like pizza. But how will my weight help me if I am on an exercise bike? I can understand that walking would take more effort but I don’t see hoe my weight will come in to play if I am sitting down on a bike?
I find the most effective piece of gym equipment is the cross-trainer. You can get a good work rate, exercise both arm and leg muscles, without the impact that you get from running (or walking even). Its also quite good for improving your balance.
demoness
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7:51am Thu 9 Jul 09
tom.marlow wrote:If you use an exercise bike correcttly you should become slightly out of breath and your heart should work faster.
ivor wrote: Re the comments of tom.marlow at 9:10am 500 calories an hour! If I did two hours that would be a thousand. I don’t like pizza. But how will my weight help me if I am on an exercise bike? I can understand that walking would take more effort but I don’t see hoe my weight will come in to play if I am sitting down on a bike?Thats a valid point actually. Weight makes much less difference when you are sitting on a bike. Its just the mass of your legs that affects the amount of work. I find the most effective piece of gym equipment is the cross-trainer. You can get a good work rate, exercise both arm and leg muscles, without the impact that you get from running (or walking even). Its also quite good for improving your balance.
If that happens you will burn calories and speed up your metabolism.
Then you will lose weight.
Can I also point out to both Punchy and Tom,that whilst their advice to Ivor is sound, it is vital that anyone who has not done regular intensive exercise and is clinically obese should go visit their doctor first. They should also have the advice of a trainer as well.
Not to to so is actually very very dangerous.
*adjusts cap and leaves thread*. :)
demoness
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7:55am Thu 9 Jul 09
You need self control,more exercise, more water and a healthy diet.
THAT is what your heart needs.
The rest of the stuff is just gimmicks.
tom.marlow
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9:20am Thu 9 Jul 09
demoness wrote:Thats true, but its in my nature to quantify things; I can't help it :-)
And quite frankly, IMHO, you don't need heart monitors, BP machines and all the rest of the paraphenalia. You need self control,more exercise, more water and a healthy diet. THAT is what your heart needs. The rest of the stuff is just gimmicks.
Some people find it useful, others not.
And your advice about getting your health checked is important.
demoness
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9:52am Thu 9 Jul 09
tom.marlow wrote:AGHHHH!!
demoness wrote: And quite frankly, IMHO, you don't need heart monitors, BP machines and all the rest of the paraphenalia. You need self control,more exercise, more water and a healthy diet. THAT is what your heart needs. The rest of the stuff is just gimmicks.Thats true, but its in my nature to quantify things; I can't help it :-) Some people find it useful, others not. And your advice about getting your health checked is important.
Tom is a control freak....
*runs*
ivor
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10:45pm Thu 9 Jul 09
I dread to think what those procedures involve.
ivor
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10:45pm Thu 9 Jul 09
Indeed I would like the Wye to be opened up but we do need to lose the flyover for that to happen!
ivor
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
I wonder if a rowing machine would burn more calories quicker than an exercise bike. After all the legs and arms are being exercised simultaneously.
I have seen the cross trainers in books but they look bit too complicated to me with too many things going on at once!
ivor
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
I am out of puff just walking up the stairs!
Yes, I should have visited the doctor first but I have already started on my exercise regime without encountering difficulty. But you are perfectly right I should have gone to see the doctor first.
I didn’t bother with the trainer either. This was very sill of me. But I think I can manage to cope.
OllieNewbury
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Well as a man of the world, you already know.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 2:05am
I dread to think what those procedures involve.
ivor
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
But surely the gimmicks are just a way of making money from the obese? I detest new fangled things so I will probably avoid them although it would be interesting to know how many beats my heart is dong. Although I would probably end up wearing the thing all the time!
Does it have an alarm when the number of beats falls to zero?
ivor
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
Should you not have you heath checked every week of so once you start exercising? For someone onf my huge size this would be a good idea?
I still think the very obese should start losing weight at a hospital where there is a doctor on stand by if anything should go wrong.
ivor
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10:46pm Thu 9 Jul 09
No not a control freak. I think Tom likes to know exactly what is going on....
OllieNewbury
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10:47pm Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:So what? Do you want the flyover to stay or the river to be opened up?
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 2:06am
Indeed I would like the Wye to be opened up but we do need to lose the flyover for that to happen!
OllieNewbury
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10:49pm Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:When the number of beats falls to zero, you won't be able to hear the alarm...
Re the comments of demoness at 7:55am
But surely the gimmicks are just a way of making money from the obese? I detest new fangled things so I will probably avoid them although it would be interesting to know how many beats my heart is dong. Although I would probably end up wearing the thing all the time!
Does it have an alarm when the number of beats falls to zero?
ivor
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11:10pm Thu 9 Jul 09
Both!
The river could be re-opened along Oxford Road and the flyover could stay so we can enjoy the splendid 1960’s construction!
ivor
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11:10pm Thu 9 Jul 09
Good point. Can you set the alarm for about 10 beats then it will let me know just before I pop off!
OllieNewbury
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11:11pm Thu 9 Jul 09
OllieNewbury wrote:You ignored my earlier point. I am insulted.
ivor wrote:Well as a man of the world, you already know.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 2:05am
I dread to think what those procedures involve.
OllieNewbury
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11:12pm Thu 9 Jul 09
ivor wrote:Very funny.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 10:49pm
Good point. Can you set the alarm for about 10 beats then it will let me know just before I pop off!
ivor
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11:18pm Thu 9 Jul 09
Yes, I think I am aware of the sort of things you are talking about. The very thought fills me with dread.
ivor
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11:18pm Thu 9 Jul 09
I have no replied to your earlier point which I unfortunately missed.
ivor
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11:19pm Thu 9 Jul 09
If I did have an alarm that went off at zero then at least it would summon help from a passer by!
Think of the use of such a device in hospitals if it could be made the size of a wrist watch!
Speach
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12:02am Fri 10 Jul 09
I think a badge may help (I know, its a long way back) - it could say something like "WARNING. DO NOT FEED THE LARDIE."
I worry that after scoffing all your neighbour's cake, you are now going to destroy his expensive exercise bike.
I think your new found appetite for exercise is a step in the right direction. It is clear yu are clueless about healthy eating. Join a slimming club - there are plenty to choose from. It will help you. It is clear you don't have the willpower or self discipline to do this on your own.
And every week you should blog here how things are going. How much better you are feeling because of the exercise. How your weight has changed. The wonderful new food combinations you have discovered that you wish you had known about years ago.
And don't forget - eat less, move more. And drink a decent amount of water every day - about eight pints.
You have benefitted from a great deal of (FREE) advice on this thread, all good. Now, as a man of action, you must take control of the situation.
Good luck.
ivor
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2:24am Fri 10 Jul 09
Yes, a badge would be most appropriate. I really mean to get fit this time. Honestly….
Don’t worry I am taking care of the exercise bike. I am sure that no damage will come to it.
I was having around 10 pints a day to drink before I started exercising so there are no problems there.
Indeed I have gained some excellent free knowledge. I am grateful to all those who replied. Thank you.
Melanie1
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12:31pm Fri 10 Jul 09
Edna_Welthorpe
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4:04pm Fri 10 Jul 09
demoness
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5:00pm Fri 10 Jul 09
Edna_Welthorpe wrote:Indeed I think you are right - we must be simple to read such twaddle and yet we still persist..
A brilliant blog, Ivor! Perhaps it’s your best yet? After the one where you declare Hercules Poirot as your doppelganger, of course. However, as with Santa Clause, I fear you are not a real person at all. I do enjoy reading the hot-headed comments you incite from Bucks-Simpletons though, well done! Just like my namesake! (Google it, loves).
Ah well, I suppose we will cope with or without your good opinion..
OllieNewbury
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7:17pm Fri 10 Jul 09
Edna_Welthorpe wrote:Shall I be annoying? It's Hercule Poirot, not Hercules.
A brilliant blog, Ivor! Perhaps it’s your best yet? After the one where you declare Hercules Poirot as your doppelganger, of course. However, as with Santa Clause, I fear you are not a real person at all. I do enjoy reading the hot-headed comments you incite from Bucks-Simpletons though, well done! Just like my namesake! (Google it, loves).
But I agree with your point.
Melanie1
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8:03pm Fri 10 Jul 09
OllieNewbury wrote:Ollie, I can be even more annoying it's actually Santa Claus!
Edna_Welthorpe wrote: A brilliant blog, Ivor! Perhaps it’s your best yet? After the one where you declare Hercules Poirot as your doppelganger, of course. However, as with Santa Clause, I fear you are not a real person at all. I do enjoy reading the hot-headed comments you incite from Bucks-Simpletons though, well done! Just like my namesake! (Google it, loves).Shall I be annoying? It's Hercule Poirot, not Hercules. But I agree with your point.
demoness
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9:04am Sat 11 Jul 09
Edna_Welthorpe wrote:Didn't need to google it, but thanks for the advice anyway..
A brilliant blog, Ivor! Perhaps it’s your best yet? After the one where you declare Hercules Poirot as your doppelganger, of course. However, as with Santa Clause, I fear you are not a real person at all. I do enjoy reading the hot-headed comments you incite from Bucks-Simpletons though, well done! Just like my namesake! (Google it, loves).
ivor
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6:25pm Sat 11 Jul 09
Thank you for you kind words of praise.
As for being my best blog yet, well I think all my blogs are good blogs!
demoness
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7:55am Sun 12 Jul 09
ivor wrote:You don't recognise sarcasm do you?
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe at 4:04pm Fri 10 Jul 09 Thank you for you kind words of praise. As for being my best blog yet, well I think all my blogs are good blogs!
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Melanie1 says...
7:13pm Tue 7 Jul 09
I wish you luck but to be honest I'm not that optimistic.