Do we have a right to drive a car? (From Bucks Free Press)
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Do we have a right to drive a car?
6:18pm Tuesday 16th March 2010
In the past few days the weather seems to have taken a turn for the better.
At lunchtime today I really enjoyed my regular lunchtime walk around Wycombe town centre. Strolling around in the spring sunshine was really nice.
After doing several circuits of the the town centre I rested in the Parish Church yard to eat my sandwiches. While sitting there I kept a look out for infernal Google cars with cameras on the top just in case they should take a snap of me.
While watching the traffic I became aware of all the cars and lorries going by. It was amazing how many vehicles there were.
It seems the motor car is king and everyone has one indeed I once knew a neighbour who got in their car to go a few hundred feet to the corner shop to get a loaf of bread.
No doubt there are countless others in the town who also use their cars for ridiculously short journeys.
On my blog last Tuesday I made a comment that we should all be issued with metal dustbins rather than the plastic wheelie bins however J B Blackett, one of our regular readers, pointed out that due to a shortage of resources if everyone was to have a metal dustbin people in other parts of the world couldn't not have cars.
J B Blackett's comment has got me thinking. Why should everyone in the world have a right to a motor car?
The modern society in which we live has turned the motor car into a status symbol and some wealthy people change their cars every few years just to drive the latest model.
Most people have cars that are bigger than their needs. Front gardens have been turned into block paved shrines where the cherished cars can be parked so the householders can proudly show off their beloved vehicles to passers by.
Do people understand the purpose and function of the car? I feel the motor car a good example of a functional object that our society has turned into an object of extravagance.
Of course there are those, like myself, who depend on a car to get around. People like me understand more than most the vital difference a car can make.
Maybe the undeveloped countries where car use is not so prevalent would do well to learn from the mistakes our society has made.
In towns and villages in distant lands maybe those still using horses and carts are actually better off without the motor car and all the pollution and blight it brings.
Personally I think that unless you are reliant on a car to get around due to mobility issues then owning car is not a right.
If we did decide to convert all the worlds metal into dustbins maybe we would actually be doing the unmotorised countries a favour as well as giving ourselves a better refuse disposal service.
What do you think?
Comments(85)
ivor
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6:50pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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What do you mean “here we go again”?
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Those fortunate enough to have money may be able to afford new cars but surely ever car they buy uses metal so it deprives someone in a far off country. Do the rich people of the UK not have a conscience?
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Please don't mention that terrible street view site again. It's an invasion of privacy....
Ulky
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7:15pm Tue 16 Mar 10
Melanie1
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7:32pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Another well thought out argument, which is based on the idea that you need a car because you are overweight and struggle to walk but the rest of us don't need one!
OllieNewbury
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7:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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It's strange how you're always an exception to the rule. You don't go anywhere apart from the town centre, so maybe you should set an example...?
demoness
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7:42pm Tue 16 Mar 10
We have had this argument time and time again.
Ivor I have a car. My conscience is clear. I could not get on with my daily life without one. I do not use my car for short journeys - what I use it for is my business and I do not intend to justify it to you or anyone else.
I could not care less what you think to be honest.
Clearly you are running out of ideas and I do not intend to contribute to this stupid and pointless blog.
Goodnight.
ivor
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8:32pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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It may be very well seeing the places but do you need to see the people as well?
ivor
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8:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Well, you do seem to live a long way from the shops so yes, I would think that you are deserving of a car.
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However you must thin that because you are using your can then someone in a far away land may be begin deprived of their own car.
ivor
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8:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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My car is perfectly legal and meets all relevant laws and legislation.
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Due to my low mileage I do not think a catalytic converter would make much difference.
ivor
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8:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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I take it that you do not like this particular blog then?
brachyura
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9:07pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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But people in undeveloped countries should not have them and stick with a horse and cart!
ivor
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9:13pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Well, think of all the problems and pollution the car has brought to our society. Surely you would not want to inflict that on a society that has not been ruined by the motorcar?
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There is a big difference between walking around the town centre staying close to buses and taxis that I could call on if I got into trouble and waling a mile or two into the wilderness.
Melanie1
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9:16pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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However you must THIN that because you are using your CAN then someone in a far away land may be BEGIN deprived of their own car."
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I see that your infernal spellchecker has been misbehaving again.
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Thank you so much for thinking that I deserve a car, I'm so relieved that you support my choice. No doubt it would upset you to know that my dog also has his own car?
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As long as I can afford to pay to insure, tax, fuel, service and mot my cars then I'm not ashamed to say that I don't think too much about those people that can't. Unlike you, I would use public transport if it was on my doorstep.
ivor
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9:20pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Indeed it appears that the spelling checker is having a bad day.... Oh dear....
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You dog has a car? What make is it? Could it be a Rover?
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So you don't think too much about those in far away lands who are not able to have a car. I suspect there are a lot of people in the country with the same attitude.
Melanie1
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9:28pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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You dog has a car? What make is it? Could it be a Rover?
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So you don't think too much about those in far away lands who are not able to have a car. I suspect there are a lot of people in the country with the same attitude."
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You made a joke, oh how funny!
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I'm amazed that you, who think of nothing but Wycombe, are now saying that you think of people in far off lands whenever you see a car.
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Anyway, I'm off now, I wouldn't want my sarcastic and disbelieving comments to be misconstrued as support for this 'popular' blog. In my mind popularity is something that you enjoy and not something that makes you grind your teeth in frustration.
ivor
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9:32pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Indeed I did make a joke. I hope you enjoyed it!
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But I do think of other towns and countries as well as Wycombe.
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I am sorry that you feel that way about my blog. Please return when you feel ready to.
OllieNewbury
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11:12pm Tue 16 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Whatever. Do what you want.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 7:33pm
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My car is perfectly legal and meets all relevant laws and legislation.
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Due to my low mileage I do not think a catalytic converter would make much difference.
ivor
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11:16pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Oh, your comment seems a little curt. Is there something wrong?
OllieNewbury
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11:21pm Tue 16 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Yes, you. You're a moaning old coot. Your last blog particularly emphasised that: moan, moan, moan. It's depressing. And don't bother replying to this comment- your responses are so **** predictable and boring.
Re the comments of OllieNewbury at 11:12pm
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Oh, your comment seems a little curt. Is there something wrong?
ivor
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11:24pm Tue 16 Mar 10
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Oh dear. I am deeply saddened and upset by your comment.
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Am I that terrible that you don't even want to hear from me? I must be an ogre if that is the case.
brachyura
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5:58am Wed 17 Mar 10
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Do you mean like Sark?
brachyura
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6:09am Wed 17 Mar 10
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Even if mobility was an issue for you, that does not justify owning two cars.
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Perhaps you could donate one to be scrapped and converted onto dustbins - to show you are comitted to your idea.
tom.marlow
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10:10am Wed 17 Mar 10
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Do you mean a "right" in the sense of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
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Clearly not, any more than anyone has a right to have a 60 inch plasma telly, or a speed boat or whatever. Its a non-issue.
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However, if we are talking about people being free to spend there money on owning and running a car if they choose then I dont see a big problem with that, but if we are going to live our lives based on car ownership then we have to live with the resulting issues. Congestion, pollution, deaths and injuries in accidents, increasing costs.
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I suspect that many of the people who complain about investment in public transport infrastructure and measures to reduce car usage - busses, bus lanes, park and ride, coach stations and, dare I say it, high speed trains are the same people that complain continuously about traffic congestion.
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Just remember, that next time you are stuck in a traffic jam, you are just as repsonsible for the congestion as everyone else.
demoness
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3:43pm Wed 17 Mar 10
You too have a car.
tom.marlow
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4:44pm Wed 17 Mar 10
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We don't use them that much, probably less than 5k miles each per year. I'd like to think we could get by with just one and if public transport here was better, we probably could.
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I'm not trying to take a moral stance here, just once again drawing attention to the impact of driving a car.
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If I'm stuck in traffic I'm happy to acknowledge my role in contributing to the congestion. I certainly don't blame anyone else - not the other drivers, the government, WDC or the powers that be.
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Well actually I sometimes blame Thatcher but its easy to argue that virtually everything thats wrong nowadays is down to her policies in the 1980s - certainly has to take more blame than WDC.
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Can probably blame Oliver Cromwell too.
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I've had to spend a few days working in London over the last few weeks and have been very impressed with the train service into Paddington. Its a lot better than it used to be. If only the service from Marlow to Maidenhead were better, I wouldnt have to drive that bit.
J B Blackett
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4:47pm Wed 17 Mar 10
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And I'm not talking about the current price of petrol (now approaching £ 4.60 gal and escalating)
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Nay and thrice nay thou sayest. Thou dost protest too much , methinks
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Rgds
There is only low ground in Marlow, moral or otherwise ; that's why it floods - moral or otherwise.
Is there a moral there ? Or was that a brewery ?
J B Blackett
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4:50pm Wed 17 Mar 10
brachyura wrote:There's need for people to get Sarky.
Can you give an example of countries which use the horse and cart and have no cars?
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Do you mean like Sark?
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Ever so Sorry ! I'll get me coat !
tom.marlow
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4:59pm Wed 17 Mar 10
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Where can you buy petrol for £4.60 / gallon? Or is your infernal spell checker on the blink :-).
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There was a guy in the telly yesterday saying that he thought petrol consumption in the UK had peaked a year or so back and would never be that high again. Partly people driving more efficient cars and partly driving less.
J B Blackett
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5:19pm Wed 17 Mar 10
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Troy Eynsham (Oxon) four mist deer char fool in de Sarf . (A40)
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Rigours
Few ! 'ope spoul chicken spurts woking a gin !
PS Rising demand for oil in China and India is pushing the sale price higher , when the trend should be the other way. Thank our lucky stars that the downward (overproduction) trend is counter balancing the upward (supply and demand) trend at the moment.
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Otherwise it would be £5 gallon now.
demoness
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5:35pm Wed 17 Mar 10
Otherwise, I have the radio and I am away...:))
Abdul Muhammed
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8:06pm Wed 17 Mar 10
ivor
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12:52am Thu 18 Mar 10
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You know what I meant. I was not meaning a total absence of cars in the country!
ivor
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12:52am Thu 18 Mar 10
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I think you are taking the message behind the blog a little too far.
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I only use one of my cars and I don't see why I can't keep a second car due to its historical nature.
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Historic vehicles are not the sort of thing you go around scrapping. They should be cherished and loved.
ivor
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12:52am Thu 18 Mar 10
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We should look at getting rid of traffic jams. Making people live closer to their places of work and reforming close knit communities is the way forward.
ivor
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12:52am Thu 18 Mar 10
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Owning a car does not make the traffic jams. It is how often you use it that causes the problems.
ivor
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12:53am Thu 18 Mar 10
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Surely people crowding the trains are no different to cars causing jams on the roads?
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Why can't everyone live close to their place of work so they can just walk to work?
ivor
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12:53am Thu 18 Mar 10
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I too believe the days of the car are numbered. Petrol will always keep rising after all pricing the motorists off the road is the only way the powers that be have to control the number of cars in existence.
ivor
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12:53am Thu 18 Mar 10
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Very funny! You are a true wordsmith!
ivor
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12:54am Thu 18 Mar 10
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If the cars are more efficient then less petrol will be used so the oil companies will have to put the price up to maintain profit levels.
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Surely this is an example where efficiency is a bad thing?
ivor
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12:54am Thu 18 Mar 10
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I am afraid that I did not understand your comment.
ivor
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12:54am Thu 18 Mar 10
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If I ever get stuck in a jam and can't see what the problems if then I sometimes get out to take a look !
ivor
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12:55am Thu 18 Mar 10
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I am sorry to hear that you do not like this blog.
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Hopefully you will like my next blog more.
brachyura
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6:19am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:So you are unable to give an example (what happened to your usual well reseached blogs?).
Re the comments of brachyura at 5:58am ~ You know what I meant. I was not meaning a total absence of cars in the country!
brachyura
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6:25am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:So you have the "right" to own two cars....
Re the comments of brachyura at 6:09am ~ I think you are taking the message behind the blog a little too far. ~ I only use one of my cars and I don't see why I can't keep a second car due to its historical nature. ~ Historic vehicles are not the sort of thing you go around scrapping. They should be cherished and loved.
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I think you have missed the point about JB's original comment (and I assume the point of your own blog).
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With a shortage of resources your second car (which isn't used) could be depriving someone of a car that actually needs it.
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Anyway I should have listerned to Demoness's original comment at 7:42 on Tuesday.
demoness
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7:19am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Because for certain professions this just would not work. Take GP's and District nurses for example - they have a large patch of patients to cover and this would not be possible if they did not have a car.
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 4:44pm ~ Surely people crowding the trains are no different to cars causing jams on the roads? ~ Why can't everyone live close to their place of work so they can just walk to work?
London is a large city yes, but it could not support all the people who work there living there too - hence why we have commuters.
Again, we have had this argument.
It seems to me Ivor you run your blogs on a cycle. This has come up before under a different guise but the old working near home and Ivor is the only one who should be able to have two cars and drive is certainly not new.
You cannot force people to live in communities Ivor - you cannot force people to do anything . Well not in this country.
But of course you know all this, you are rehashing it all now in case some of your newer readers want to join in the fray.
Bit desperate old bean really. :)
Punchy
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8:08am Thu 18 Mar 10
Most of us live every day with an over-developed sense of entitlement to all of it. Not only that, we yearn for more.
We are on an unsustainable path, that much will be acknowledged by everyone. War, famine, disease and disaster will correct our path, they always does....it's just that today we are too many degrees removed from nature to comprehend that fact.
tom.marlow
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9:11am Thu 18 Mar 10
tom.marlow
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9:15am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:The price we pay for petrol is not set by the oil companies.
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 4:59pm ~ If the cars are more efficient then less petrol will be used so the oil companies will have to put the price up to maintain profit levels. ~ Surely this is an example where efficiency is a bad thing?
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Its predicated by crude oil prices set by the cartel of producing countries and by taxation set by the consuming companies.
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And no, efficiency is a good thing. If nothing else, the finite supply of oil in the ground will last longer.
tom.marlow
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9:19am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:So you are arguing that the "powers that be" should dictate where people live?
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 10:10am ~ We should look at getting rid of traffic jams. Making people live closer to their places of work and reforming close knit communities is the way forward.
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I've just spent half of the last 2 weeks working in Mayfair. I'd be happy for them to make me live there while I'm working there. I assume they'd pay my hotel bill. The Dorchester would have been the most convenient.
OllieNewbury
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10:13am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:So one rule for you, and another for the rest of us. How nice.
Re the comments of brachyura at 6:09am
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I think you are taking the message behind the blog a little too far.
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I only use one of my cars and I don't see why I can't keep a second car due to its historical nature.
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Historic vehicles are not the sort of thing you go around scrapping. They should be cherished and loved.
OllieNewbury
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10:21am Thu 18 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Umm... because that's not practical. I know in your little fantasy land, Wycombe would be a little village with a 'NO OUTSIDERS' sign on the border. All the towns-people would live in small cottages. The men would walk into town to do their work (Mr Baker, Mr Butcher, P.C. Plod...) whilst their wives would stay home and cook and clean and look after the children. There would be no anti-social behaviour, otherwise P.C. Plod would have the offenders hanged, as they did in the 50s, (the 1750s that is). And the world would be perfect.
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 4:44pm
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Surely people crowding the trains are no different to cars causing jams on the roads?
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Why can't everyone live close to their place of work so they can just walk to work?
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Basically a scene from Camberwick Green.
J B Blackett
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12:39pm Thu 18 Mar 10
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Mr Bigun should drive (carefully) his second car to the nearest car scrap yard (No longer High Heavens - try Saunderton , opposite the 'station). For recycling , of course.
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Don't forget to get out or you may be caught up in the process (Soylent Green again).
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Rgds
I'm now beginning to visualized you as a look-alike of Edward G Robinson (film star of the 30s/40s/50s and 60s) . Why's that , I wonder ?
J B Blackett
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12:51pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Punchy wrote:Agree, Punchy. We have no absolute rights what so ever. The ones we supposedly have are created by People - not God(s) The 'Rights' are usually formulated by devious politician-lawyers and taken away in the blink of an eye by the same sort when it suits them or the current rulers.
Our right to what most now consider to be the basics of life (a car, a private dwelling for our family, an 80-90 year life expectancy...) is not an absolute one.
Most of us live every day with an over-developed sense of entitlement to all of it. Not only that, we yearn for more.
We are on an unsustainable path, that much will be acknowledged by everyone. War, famine, disease and disaster will correct our path, they always does....it's just that today we are too many degrees removed from nature to comprehend that fact.
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The whole 'rights' business (not to be confused with the elusive 'Justice') is a con trick , a facade - presumably because there's money or something in it -- for lawyers !
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Regards
J B Blackett
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1:53pm Thu 18 Mar 10
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I don't know when you were created Mr Bigun (on the net I mean) , but in the interim things may have changed.
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If only resources were allocated on the basis of need rather than want , we made get a bit fairer and practical. Hungry people would get fed , the sick would be healed and wars and bigotry would cease !
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But it's not going to happen is it ? Greedy rich people will get richer and the poor will remain poor. All presided over by corrupt or inept politicians
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So nothings changed and your blog will have no more effect than my reply to it. It's all sort of pointless unless all (well most of us) get out in the world and DO SOMETHING.
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I'm working on it , but I'm afraid you may disapprove.
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Rgds
PS Fossil Fuel is going to get even more expensive because the 'easily extracted stuff' is running out. Plus China and India amongst others want/need more oil - lots of it !.
faisal mahmood
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3:40pm Thu 18 Mar 10
yes its everyones right to drive and own a car because its there money not yours being used so please stop these ill information blogs thank you.
J B Blackett
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4:06pm Thu 18 Mar 10
faisal mahmood wrote:Sorry, but not correct !
ivor
yes its everyones right to drive and own a car because its there money not yours being used so please stop these ill information blogs thank you.
demoness
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6:44pm Thu 18 Mar 10
J B Blackett wrote:I know but JBB Faisal is a legend and therefore can be forgiven :))
faisal mahmood wrote: ivor yes its everyones right to drive and own a car because its there money not yours being used so please stop these ill information blogs thank you.Sorry, but not correct !
J B Blackett
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7:15pm Thu 18 Mar 10
Rgds
demoness
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8:16pm Thu 18 Mar 10
J B Blackett wrote:But did we forgive him??
I agree, d, but so was King Arthur and he was deemed Wrong also. Rgds
faisal mahmood
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10:08pm Thu 18 Mar 10
demoness wrote:thank u
J B Blackett wrote:I know but JBB Faisal is a legend and therefore can be forgiven :))
faisal mahmood wrote: ivor yes its everyones right to drive and own a car because its there money not yours being used so please stop these ill information blogs thank you.Sorry, but not correct !
faisal mahmood
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10:09pm Thu 18 Mar 10
J B Blackett
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10:30pm Thu 18 Mar 10
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This also applies to Ivor, Faisal , you and me and possibly all of us on this blog ! Who can say who is real , imagined or a mere creation. Imagine that - continual verbal intercourse between non-existent people.
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I sometimes think I am the only 'real' person writing on here. Then another time that is me that is imaginary having created a character for myself to act out a role on here. And all the remaining bloggers are 'real' people.
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I've heard several people (yourself also ?) accusing Mr Bigun of being not a real person , but some creation of a BFP employee.
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As we hide behind the cloak of anonymity and write things that it so easy to write things that you would would not repeat to your nearest or dearest (or your granny ).
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Having said that , and although being an unforgiving sort of person, I would wish not to offend a legend
I can in this case ( for your sake) forgive.
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Regards
PS But I will never forgive King Arthur ; he let us down.
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ivor
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1:08am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I am sure you know what I am talking about.
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I can assure you all my blogs are researched to the highest standard.
ivor
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1:09am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I can see what you are saying but I fail to see what difference one person like myself makes. My second car is a historic vehicle and I have never suggested that we should destroy our motoring heritage.
ivor
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1:09am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Well, certain emergency and care professions would have the right to a car. My idea applies only to private individuals who could easily do without a car.
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All my blogs are fresh but due to the high number of topics that I cover there is bound to be some overlap.
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Why do you always have to be critical of me?
ivor
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1:09am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Indeed I agree about you comment of cars and lifestyles not being and absolute right. We are blessed if we enjoy such things.
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I think you comment was very appropriate and apt. Thank you for that constructive comment.
ivor
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1:10am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I am sure the oil companies play their part in the process and make sure they get their slice of the profits even if there are other influencing factors.
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Yes, you are right. Efficiency will make the supplies last longer even if we end up paying more for less....
ivor
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1:10am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Indeed, in the future the only option will be to live close to work especially if petrol prices rise.
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Surely your company would pay your hotel bill?
ivor
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1:11am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I am talking about a historic vehicle.
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Surely you would not want to see such a marvellous historic vehicle scrapped?
ivor
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1:11am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Is that really the image you have of me?
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Do you think it would work?
ivor
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1:11am Fri 19 Mar 10
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If you were to see my magnificent historic vehicle I am sure that you would agree that it should not be scrapped.
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Why do you think that I look like Edward G Robinson? Are you praising me?
ivor
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1:12am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I think the issue of our rights is a very interesting topic.
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I may well write a blog on the subject.
ivor
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1:12am Fri 19 Mar 10
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But Demoness is always critical of me. Surely you take what she says with a pinch of salt?
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I can assure you that I am as in touch with thing today as I was when I started all those years ago.
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Once again the ills of with world seem to be linked to politicians. I think my blog has had its impact and I will definitely continue writing it.
ivor
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1:13am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Does money give us a right to something?
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What about the moral concerns?
ivor
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1:13am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Indeed Faisal is a legend and I hold him and his views in high respect.
ivor
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1:13am Fri 19 Mar 10
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Anyone can be wrong. Even I am wrong sometimes.
ivor
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1:14am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I am prepared to forgive anyone.
ivor
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1:14am Fri 19 Mar 10
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I can assure you that I am real.
Elmo
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7:30am Fri 19 Mar 10
Think like an animal. Do what you like, eat what you like, but be prepared to leg it when someone else decides they want to do you.
tom.marlow
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9:18am Fri 19 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Nope. I wouldn't sign it off.
Re the comments of tom.marlow at 9:19am ~ Indeed, in the future the only option will be to live close to work especially if petrol prices rise. ~ Surely your company would pay your hotel bill?
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Train fares + cost of getting to maidenhead about £25. Hotel about £200 minimum around Mayfair.
J B Blackett
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11:18am Fri 19 Mar 10
Elmo wrote:Very true and practical (pragmatic?) , Elmo.
No one has the right to anything. Rights are just societies carrots dangling just out of reach.
Think like an animal. Do what you like, eat what you like, but be prepared to leg it when someone else decides they want to do you.
J B Blackett
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11:21am Fri 19 Mar 10
ivor wrote:Prove it , Mr Bigun ! We only have your word for that 'fact'. As in '1984'
Re the comments of J B Blackett at 10:30pm
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I can assure you that I am real.
angiestone
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1:22pm Sat 20 Mar 10
Many large local employers used to provide transport for staff (Vandervells in Maidenhead being a good example), but car ownership changed that and gave them an excuse to cut costs by removing that service.
I believe that we should all be more sensible about car use other than for employment.
edbrotherton
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8:56am Sat 27 Mar 10
J B Blackett
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12:02pm Tue 30 Mar 10
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Does read like english English , IMHO.
Please quote your gun law legislation then we'll know. Rgds
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PS We have no written constitution btw
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Ulky says...
6:40pm Tue 16 Mar 10
And also, i had quite fun looking around google street view a earlier today, and there is a man eating a sandwhich by the churchyard wearing black, i assumed it's you as he looks depressed and overweight.
Wouldn't that be marvellous? If Ivor was on google street view.