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What happened to the carol singers?

By ivor »

Mention Halloween and most people think of young children knocking on the front door trick or treating but mention Christmas Eve and turkey and presents are the first things to come to mind.

In years gone by things were very different as Christmas Eve was always associated with carol singers and mince pies.

I can remember, many years ago now, when carol singers would visit the Hall on Christmas Eve.

We would be sitting in the drawing room when the first verse of “God rest ye merry gentlemen” would drift in from the front of the house.

After the first verse there would be a knock at the front door and a group of singers would be standing under the portico.

My father would offer a small monetary gift and ask for a rendition of “Oh come, All ye faithful” or other suitable carol.

Later in the evening, many years ago now, a brass band would sometimes stop under the street lamp outside the Hall and play several carols.

Look how times have changed. The chances of having carol singers visit these days is practically nil.

The world in which we live is ravaged by evil and attendances at church are in decline.

Maybe the churches of Wycombe should band together and send carol singers around the roads to re-engage the local population and raise the profile of the church in the community?

I was talking to a friend of mine at lunchtime today about this very issue.

During the conversation I suggested that, in order to target those who wanted carols, it would be possible to pre-book the singers who would turn up in a minibus and give a couple of verses possibly visiting other nearby houses before going on to the next port of call.

I'm surprised nobody else has come up with that idea after all it would surely be popular.

It would be a nice change to open the front door and find something nice there rather than menacing children trick or treating or salesmen trying to flog me double glazing.

Now, what about boxing day?

I wonder how many people will be putting out a little something to show appreciation for the tradesmen who provide a doorstep service throughout the year?

In years gone by we used to have the services of a milkman, butcher, newspaper delivery boy, postman, green grocer and a farmer all of whom we used to put a little something out for when they called on Boxing Day.

These days the tradesmen can't even be bothered to come round on Boxing Day so they won't know if I put anything out or not. At least I will be better off financially through their laziness.

Are you going carol singing on Christmas Eve or maybe you still put a token of appreciation out on Boxing Day for the tradesmen who supported you through the year?

What do you think?

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Comments(53)

Edna_Welthorpe_ says...
7:31pm Thu 22 Dec 11

oh gosh, I do feel guilty.

ivor says...
7:53pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 7:31pm
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Why?

Mama36 says...
8:50pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Went to Frankie & Bennys on Monday evening where they had carol singers & very good they were too!!!

Edna_Welthorpe_ says...
9:06pm Thu 22 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 7:31pm
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Why?
for inspiring this blog! Not sure whether I should be flattered to be your Muse or not.
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Do you sing carols at Bigun Hall, Ivor? Which are your favourite? Ra-pa-pa-pom-pom!

ivor says...
11:14pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Re the comments of Mama36 at 8:50pm
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That's very nice to hear.
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Maybe there will be carol singers around the town tomorrow and Saturday?

ivor says...
11:14pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Re the comments of Mama36 at 8:50pm
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That's very nice to hear.
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Maybe there will be carol singers around the town tomorrow and Saturday?

ivor says...
11:15pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 9:06pm
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Surely you should be flattered for inspiring this blog?
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I like to cover topics that the readers want indeed if anyone has a topic for a blog just leave a comment and I will do my best to research and write the blog. If there's something around Wycombe that you are not happy with then also leave a comment and I will go and take a look!
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Sometimes I sing carols in the bath, my favourite is “Once in Royal David's city”. What's your favourite carol?

Edna_Welthorpe_ says...
11:28pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Good King Wenceslas, followed by The 12 Days of Christmas. Can you guess which day I am?

ivor says...
11:43pm Thu 22 Dec 11

Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 11:28pm
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Yes, those are excellent carols, its just a shame you don't hear them more these days.
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I hope I don't offend you with this but I think you would be “five gold rings”. Am I right?
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I would be “10 lords are leaping”....

Lawrence Linehan says...
12:21am Fri 23 Dec 11

Modern children - accustomed to cars for long journeys - would probably die of exposure and exhaustion before reaching the hall (have you checked the estate driveway for the bodies of children long disappeared) - that reminds me they or their parents may be worried about paedophiles - a subject you know quite a lot about don't you igor?

ivor says...
1:25am Fri 23 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 12:21am
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As you rightly say the children of today do seem to spend an awful amount of time riding around in cars rather than walking. Also there is the problem of not knowing who you are calling on.
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Unfortunately I still have nightmares over that blog earlier in the year to which you refer. How did I get things so wrong? How can I make amends? It seems an apology is not enough these days....

Lawrence Linehan says...
2:07am Fri 23 Dec 11

Yeah. Have you ever though about ritual suicide - nobody could doubt your sincerity then?

ivor says...
2:19am Fri 23 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am
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I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide.
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What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.

ivor says...
2:19am Fri 23 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am
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I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide.
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What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.

gotanybiscuits? says...
7:11am Fri 23 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am ~ I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide. ~ What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.
Oh dear, it didn't get triplicated this time.
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There you go.
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No charge.
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Looking forward to the revised 'humble' Ivor for 2012!!

Edna_Welthorpe_ says...
10:05am Fri 23 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 11:28pm
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Yes, those are excellent carols, its just a shame you don't hear them more these days.
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I hope I don't offend you with this but I think you would be “five gold rings”. Am I right?
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I would be “10 lords are leaping”....
you are right!

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:17pm Fri 23 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am ~ I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide. ~ What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.
You were not 'covering an issue' - you invented the whole thing.

EVIL igor!!!

ivor says...
2:21am Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of gotanybiscuits? at 7:11am
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I think I have been humbled more this year that at any other time!

ivor says...
2:21am Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of gotanybiscuits? at 7:11am
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I think I have been humbled more this year that at any other time!

ivor says...
2:21am Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 10:05am
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Just imagine the embarrassment for me if I had got it wrong....

ivor says...
2:22am Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:17pm
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No, I was merely reporting back what actually happened. All my blogs are based on factual events.

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:36pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Mama36 wrote:
Went to Frankie & Bennys on Monday evening where they had carol singers & very good they were too!!!
Still don't see why you feel guilty.

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:36pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Mama36 wrote:
Went to Frankie & Bennys on Monday evening where they had carol singers & very good they were too!!!
Still don't see why you feel guilty.

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:40pm Sat 24 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 10:05am ~ Just imagine the embarrassment for me if I had got it wrong....
Yeah - not like you to get something wrong is it igor?

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:40pm Sat 24 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:17pm ~ No, I was merely reporting back what actually happened. All my blogs are based on factual events.
Liar!

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:41pm Sat 24 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 11:28pm ~ Yes, those are excellent carols, its just a shame you don't hear them more these days. ~ I hope I don't offend you with this but I think you would be “five gold rings”. Am I right? ~ I would be “10 lords are leaping”....
They don't have a line in that song about bats in belfries do they?

ivor says...
11:44pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:36pm
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I didn't think that Mama36 did feel guilty, I think the was Edna who was feeling guilty (at 7:31pm on Thu)....

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:44pm Sat 24 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am ~ I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide. ~ What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.
I don't think you are just one person, although S Cohen has assured me in a private communication that you are.

ivor says...
11:45pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm
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Occasionally I have been known to make the odd mistake, when I do make a mistake its usually a big one....

ivor says...
11:45pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm
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Indeed all my blog are based on factual events.
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Happy Christmas to you Lawrence!

ivor says...
11:45pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm
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Indeed all my blog are based on factual events.
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Happy Christmas to you Lawrence!

ivor says...
11:45pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm
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Indeed all my blog are based on factual events.
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Happy Christmas to you Lawrence!

ivor says...
11:45pm Sat 24 Dec 11

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm
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Indeed all my blog are based on factual events.
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Happy Christmas to you Lawrence!

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:01am Sun 25 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm ~ Occasionally I have been known to make the odd mistake, when I do make a mistake its usually a big one....
Steve Cohen and the 'igor' team's biggest mistake was to start this blog.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:05am Sun 25 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 11:40pm ~ Indeed all my blog are based on factual events. ~ Happy Christmas to you Lawrence!
I don't want to sound unfestive on Christmas Eve but why don't you reconsider Lawrence's comment above (The one about ritual suicide) - nobody could doubt your sincerity then?”

Merry Christmas to all the other enemies of igor's BLOG of EVIL!

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:07am Sun 25 Dec 11

You don't need to post things four times - it will exaggerate the amount of interest your blog arouses.

ImpeturbableLawrence says...
12:12am Sun 25 Dec 11

You still haven't told us which page and which parish shows the existence of Biguns in the 1798 Muster Roll for the County of Bucks.

A VOTER says...
1:27am Sun 25 Dec 11

ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:
You still haven't told us which page and which parish shows the existence of Biguns in the 1798 Muster Roll for the County of Bucks.
And he never will, because he's a Liar.

He's not even a good liar.....
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Merry Xmas to all of Ivor's enemies...

A VOTER says...
1:30am Sun 25 Dec 11

Lawrence Linehan wrote:
ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:07am ~ I can inform you that I have no intention of committing suicide. ~ What I would like is for all those who left in disgust to see the sincerity of my apology and return to my blog. If only I had know that blog would cause so much trouble then I would never have written it. At the time I thought I was covering an important issue but now I regret it.
I don't think you are just one person, although S Cohen has assured me in a private communication that you are.
I've had similar private messages from S Cohen, and frankly, he's about as believable as the fictional character Ivor...

ivor says...
1:54am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:01am
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When I saw you comment dated 12:01am I thought it was a Christmas greeting of good wishes.
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How wrong I was....

ivor says...
1:55am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:05am
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Merry Christmas to you too!

ivor says...
1:55am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:07am
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I can't help if it the sited does not work and things end up being posted several times.
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So long as people find my blogs arousing them I will continue writing them!

ivor says...
1:55am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:07am
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I can't help if it the sited does not work and things end up being posted several times.
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So long as people find my blogs arousing them I will continue writing them!

ivor says...
1:55am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:12am
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Until I can see the muster roll I can't tell you which page! Unfortunately it is not available for download.
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Besides as the Biguns were very important people back then I doubt if they would have been on the muster roll....

ivor says...
1:55am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of A VOTER at 1:27am
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Merry Christmas to you too!

ivor says...
1:56am Sun 25 Dec 11

Re the comments of A VOTER at 1:30am
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Why do you disbelieve what you are told?

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:03am Sun 25 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:07am ~ I can't help if it the sited does not work and things end up being posted several times. ~ So long as people find my blogs arousing them I will continue writing them!
Even the dirty double meanings aren't arousing.

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:13am Sun 25 Dec 11

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:12am ~ Until I can see the muster roll I can't tell you which page! Unfortunately it is not available for download. ~ Besides as the Biguns were very important people back then I doubt if they would have been on the muster roll....
The 1798 Muster Roll for the County of Bucks is a list of ALL able bodied males in the county between the ages of 15 and 60 capable of acting in a military capacity – without exception - from penniless illiterate labourers to dukes and earls (a fiercely patriotic disabled man of 70 in, I think, Bledlow, insisted on being included in the list). The names are listed by parish and occupation within it. Which page and which parish shows the existence of Biguns? Or were the Biguns left off because of a hereditary problem with obesity, walking and truthfulness.

M40 says...
11:54am Sun 25 Dec 11

Bigun Hall - An ex council house in CHILTERN AVENUE Cressex.

gotanybiscuits? says...
7:41pm Sun 25 Dec 11

M40 wrote:
Bigun Hall - An ex council house in CHILTERN AVENUE Cressex.
oooooo, a revelation?!?
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Cressex, not Booker, hmmmmm
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Leaping Lord Cressex??

Lawrence Linehan says...
8:13pm Sun 25 Dec 11

Lawrence Linehan wrote:
ivor wrote: Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 12:07am ~ I can't help if it the sited does not work and things end up being posted several times. ~ So long as people find my blogs arousing them I will continue writing them!
Even the dirty double meanings aren't arousing.
(Or amusing.)

Alberto The Great says...
10:10pm Sun 25 Dec 11

Happy Christmas Everyone - Except Ivor of course!

Lawrence Linehan says...
9:44pm Mon 26 Dec 11

Yeah –except igor - Blogmeister of EVIL!


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