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Policing with caution

By ivor »

When someone commits a crime we all think they will be arrested and appear in court and if found guilty sent to prison.

In the modern world in which we live sometimes this is not the case.

As demonstrated by several prominent examples in the news recently more often than not the police will merely issue a caution and the offender will go merrily on their way.

While I don't want to go into the specifics of the recent cases, indeed its best that we avoid them altogether, surely the whole concept of the “caution” needs to be rethought?

What is the point of having laws with custodial sentences if a mere caution will be handed out?

For people without a criminal record the chances are they will only get a caution if they commit a first offence therefore its sending out the signal that everyone could do a little shoplifting and if we are unlucky enough to be caught just end up with a caution.

Surely the “you can commit a crime once” scenario makes a mockery of the law?

Now let's suppose I were to drive past a speed camera while travelling too fast then I would get a fine and possibly points on my licence. So why don't I just get a caution instead? Is there not an inconsistency here?

We are told what the maximum sentence for a crime is so why aren't the minimum sentences made clear too?

Would it not be a good idea to list all the offences with a caution as the lowest penalty so we are clear what they are?

There also seems to be another inconsistency as it seems that if famous people or those in the public eye commit a crime they are more likely to end up with their picture in the media and details of their crime blazoned over the front pages.

If someone unimportant, like yours truly, was to receive a caution the chances are that it would not even make ripples in the papers and the chances of my misdemeanour’s being featured on the television news are nil.

Even famous people have a right to privacy so why should they receive publicity if they get a mere caution?

Maybe the law should be re-written so only those who receive custodial sentences for their crimes, no matter who they are, are put through the ringer of the media?

As far as I am concerned the whole concept of the caution is a waste of time and the police would be better to arrest and prosecute for even the first offence.

Naturally I am as honest as the day is long but at least I know that if I did commit a crime then all that awaits me is a caution at which point I would instantly declare myself a little bit insane which seems to be a valid way of minimising or even justifying the caution.

Let's face it the weight carried by a caution is one step below being hit in the face with a wet lettuce leaf.

Is it any wonder there is so much crime in today society?

What do you think?

*Don't forget to read my regular column in this Friday's edition of the printed version of the Bucks Free Press!

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Comments(27)

Alberto The Great says...
8:21pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Have you still not been to the Library yet? Maybe it's because you already know that there are no Biguns listed in that muster role, because you're all fiction.

.... awaits yet another avoidance answer

ivor says...
8:24pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 8:21pm
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Funny you should mention that because I have visited the library however I was unable to locate the Muster Roll. I spent ages looking on all the shelves.
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Do you happen to know where in the library it is located?

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:28pm Thu 12 Jan 12

What a coincidence – so did I – in connection with something else - and I did something really pointless – I looked to see if the name Bigun occurred in the complete index of personal names at the end and of course it didn’t. This is not surprising as the name is one made up as a vehicle for a dirty ‘joke’ - ‘I have a big one’ geddit? Bigun is not in the standard work on this subject P.H. Reaney’s Dictionary of English surnames either . The 1798 Muster Roll is very easy to find – it’s shelved on the open shelves under call numbers, L000:90 and 942.59073 at High Wycombe. Perhaps you should have asked a librarian.

ivor says...
11:04pm Thu 12 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:28pm
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Now I have the numbers I shall pay another visit when I have a spare moment and inspect the book.
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But I thought you had already inspected the document? Are you saying that you only viewed it today? I'm sure my surname is there, if not there must have been a mistake.
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I did not ask a librarian as I really did not want to trouble them indeed they were so busy helping others whose requests were probably more important than mine.

Boris1 says...
8:59am Fri 13 Jan 12

Hahahaha once again Ogers been caught out. Stop mugging your readera off you sad old man.

quote-I'm sure my surname is there, if not there must have been a mistake.

Of course theres a mistake ioger, the mistake is you! and as for not wanting to bother the libraian what a load of rubbish.

Not that i had any before but i have no respect for you what so ever.

Tar tar you muppet.

Boris1 says...
9:00am Fri 13 Jan 12

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 8:21pm ~ Funny you should mention that because I have visited the library however I was unable to locate the Muster Roll. I spent ages looking on all the shelves. ~ Do you happen to know where in the library it is located?
of course you did. Stop lying you muppet.

A VOTER says...
9:41am Fri 13 Jan 12

What a pathetic fictional character you are Ivor.

I find it strange that Steve Cohen and the BFP Ivor team are not able to create a character that commands respect from the readership.

This character is nothing more than a figure of hatred and should be laid to rest ASAP.

The BFP blogs would be a much better read without this Ivor cr@p littering the blogs

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:19pm Fri 13 Jan 12

Nobody believes there is a family called Bigun, or a Bigun Hall, or that we can turn the clock back to some non-existent ideal past in which igor or his family were superior people. Most of the local historical stuff by igor is poorly-researched droning by a person of obviously low educational standard and poor general knowledge. Nobody believes most of the stuff in the ‘ivor’ column so why am I arguing with someone who is either; a snobbish fantasist, so idiosyncratic as to be bonkers, half-deliberately aiming to wind people up with what he imagines is fearlessly honest wisdom or; a few sporty wind-up merchants at the BFP simulating the deliberations of such a person?

Either way it’s a waste of time as igor refuses to answer questions so I think I’ll have a little rest from him – in future if I want to perversely waste time on the computer I shall play ‘Tetris’ instead.

ivor says...
12:06am Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Boris1 at 8:59am
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Oh dear, I am sorry you feel that way.

ivor says...
12:06am Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Boris1 at 9:00am
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Indeed I did visit the library to search for the document.

ivor says...
12:06am Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of A VOTER at 9:41am
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I am sorry you feel like that, I'm sure that some people enjoy my blogs.

ivor says...
12:07am Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:19pm
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You are the last person I would have thought could have talked like that indeed I never thought you would give up so easily.
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I shall miss you....

Lawrence Linehan says...
12:39am Sat 14 Jan 12

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:19pm
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You are the last person I would have thought could have talked like that indeed I never thought you would give up so easily.
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I shall miss you....
Awww!

Lawrence Linehan says...
2:46am Sat 14 Jan 12

There's no point in bothering with a child who just lies and lies. Anyway back to the tetris.

ivor says...
4:45pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:46am
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Oh dear, and to think of all the wonderful blogs you will miss out on reading....

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:07pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Just got 71 lines at Tetris on level four.

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:08pm Sat 14 Jan 12

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 2:46am
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Oh dear, and to think of all the wonderful blogs you will miss out on reading....
'... wonderful blogs' - LOL.

ivor says...
10:13pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:07pm
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What is Tardis?

ivor says...
10:13pm Sat 14 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 10:08pm
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You may laugh but there are people out there who enjoy my blogs and look forward to me publishing the next one....

Mama36 says...
12:53pm Sun 15 Jan 12

If its a first offence for shoplifting, you will only ever get a caution. Whether its a block of cheese or a Gold Rolex, same punishment. Might aswell make it a Bigun!!! If you pardon the pun!!

Lawrence Linehan says...
12:07am Mon 16 Jan 12

I just scored 89 on Tetris at level four – at moments like this I wonder if I might not be TOO talented to be posting here. (Not a problem you’re very familiar with I imagine igor.)

Edna_Welthorpe_ says...
7:34pm Mon 16 Jan 12

Lawrence Linehan wrote:
Nobody believes there is a family called Bigun, or a Bigun Hall, or that we can turn the clock back to some non-existent ideal past in which igor or his family were superior people. Most of the local historical stuff by igor is poorly-researched droning by a person of obviously low educational standard and poor general knowledge. Nobody believes most of the stuff in the ‘ivor’ column so why am I arguing with someone who is either; a snobbish fantasist, so idiosyncratic as to be bonkers, half-deliberately aiming to wind people up with what he imagines is fearlessly honest wisdom or; a few sporty wind-up merchants at the BFP simulating the deliberations of such a person?

Either way it’s a waste of time as igor refuses to answer questions so I think I’ll have a little rest from him – in future if I want to perversely waste time on the computer I shall play ‘Tetris’ instead.
Personally I think Ivor is great and should go on forever. I do, however, worry about his health and the road-worthiness of his trusty car.

ivor says...
8:11pm Mon 16 Jan 12

Re the comments of Mama36 at 12:53pm on Sun 15 Jan 12
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Indeed it seems we all have a “free” go at shoplifting to use whenever we like, why steal cheese when you take something more expensive?
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I thought the pun was excellent! It kept me chuckling for ages!

ivor says...
8:11pm Mon 16 Jan 12

Re the comments of Lawrence Linehan at 12:07am
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Well done on you score, sadly you missed all the action on my blog while your were pressing buttons on the computer controls....

ivor says...
8:12pm Mon 16 Jan 12

Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 7:34pm
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Thank you for your kind words of praise!
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I can assure you that my trusty car is in perfect condition however the same can not be said about me....

Lawrence Linehan says...
11:10pm Mon 16 Jan 12

ivor wrote:
Re the comments of Edna_Welthorpe_ at 7:34pm
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Thank you for your kind words of praise!
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I can assure you that my trusty car is in perfect condition however the same can not be said about me....
That's right - your mind's going a bit isn't it?

Mama36 says...
8:40pm Tue 17 Jan 12

Ivor did you watch that programme on channel 4 last night about shoplifting??? Us retailers don't stand a chance.


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