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Bridge Street - Wot, No bridge?

By Fractal »

I used to live in Bridge Street. Which is nothing to shout about in itself, but it does show that there used to be houses where now there are none.

Now, it is true that I am thinking back some considerable years, back to when the Oxford Road had a river running alongside, but a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then. - I suppose the water is still flowing but the bridge has long gone.

The river of course was a playground for kids and provided hours of entertainment during those long, hot summers we used to have. In fact throughout the whole year come to think about it; A river is an attraction.

There were shops a-plenty, some perhaps more useful in everyday life than others. - The Saddler's did not attract everyone from the neighbourhood, but they did produce fascinating leather goods and it was always fascinating to watch the craft; Mr. Perry if I remember correctly.

The sweet shop next door was far more attractive of course. Not only did Mr. Bullen carry a good range of sweets he also had a motor-tricycle which he would decorate with Wycombe Wanderers colours every match-day.

Keens the model shop occupied the site immediately behind the old Baptist Chapel. Everything the model builder could want could be found within. Balsa wood gliders were a favourite with all the children. The older boys would go for motorised versions.

Various other furniture and carpet shops along with a couple of pubs, a greengrocers, and a butchers were all there. Then there were houses that swept through from Desborough Road and on into the town proper. The whole area had a sense of community, something the town as a whole now seems to lack; I suppose that this is unavoidable if you take residents away.

By today standards the houses were certainly in need of updating. Central heating was unknown as indeed was hot water on tap. Outside toilets are nowadays a thing of the past, then it was quite normal to tramp the length of the garden. At night a lantern would be needed to light the way. Inside the house gas lighting was still in evidence. A supply of gas-mantles would be kept in the cupboard as they burned out on a regular basis. The gas supply was via a meter into which a shilling would have to be inserted, (a supply of these would also be kept handy). During the evening time there would be a sudden panic as the lights dimmed slowly when the money ran out and a scramble would ensue to get the money in before full darkness. The new-fangled electric supply was eventually installed and the front room became the only room in the house to have 'lectric light.

All the families were eventually moved out to the new estates – Micklefield, Castlefield et al.

As everyone now knows, Eden now sits (in a rather ungainly fashion) on the acreage. And Bridge Street as it was, is but a passing memory. The shops on the side that remains untouched by Eden have been done no favours by the road layout. The shops there are mostly reliant on 'passing trade' and the city-planners did not think of helping out by putting in a lay by. To walk there now is to be caught up in a frenzied maelstrom of humanity. The pavement is a bit a hazard, it slopes quite steeply and is littered with all manner of street furniture that has to be avoided.

Probably best not to mention the traffic...

We each have a memory of days gone past and all are similar in content but different in context. Which brings me to my point: - Was it really as idyllic as our minds would have us believe? Did summer really last for months on end, or is it a case of rose-tinted glasses?


Comments (28)

6:43am Wed 17 Feb 10

brachyura says...

Enjoying your blogs Fractal. Nice reading something which isn't just complaining about everything.
Enjoying your blogs Fractal. Nice reading something which isn't just complaining about everything. brachyura

9:41am Wed 17 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

Really good and interesting blog, I love hearing about Wycombe, how it used to be. It may be through rose tinted specs, but it still good to hear and remember these things. My uncle had the greengrocers on Desborough, I don'y know if you mean the same one, his shop was where the Ins company was, I think there is also a small video shop there, (his shop was demolished) opposite the pub, can't remember the name off hand. I can remember when he moved out, he had to dig the quarry tiles up, thats where he hid his money, don't think he liked banks. Can you remeber further down Desborough, probably where Iceland used to be, there was a small general store, Jack Ives, I can still remember my Mum getting deliveries on a Friday from him, before any of the supemarkets were about. Can you remember the fountain in the food shop on the high street, can't remember their name either. Hopefully someone can. I hope you don't get despondent writing these blogs, because I can assure you they are very worthwhile, and I'm sure it won't be too long before you have a large following. If you have any other recollections, please share, they are great. Thanks
Really good and interesting blog, I love hearing about Wycombe, how it used to be. It may be through rose tinted specs, but it still good to hear and remember these things. My uncle had the greengrocers on Desborough, I don'y know if you mean the same one, his shop was where the Ins company was, I think there is also a small video shop there, (his shop was demolished) opposite the pub, can't remember the name off hand. I can remember when he moved out, he had to dig the quarry tiles up, thats where he hid his money, don't think he liked banks. Can you remeber further down Desborough, probably where Iceland used to be, there was a small general store, Jack Ives, I can still remember my Mum getting deliveries on a Friday from him, before any of the supemarkets were about. Can you remember the fountain in the food shop on the high street, can't remember their name either. Hopefully someone can. I hope you don't get despondent writing these blogs, because I can assure you they are very worthwhile, and I'm sure it won't be too long before you have a large following. If you have any other recollections, please share, they are great. Thanks Lorrainej

11:17am Wed 17 Feb 10

Fractal says...

- brachyura-
Thank you kindly. lol, I will keep the complaining to a minimum.

- Lorrainej -
I remember Aldridges the Grocers in Desborough, they had a few shops in town. But there were a few others.
The shop in the High Street with the fountain was MacFisheries. I remember it well.
No, I don't get despondant, change in all areas is a feature of Life; No good in letting them get you down. :-)
Thanks for the comments. And yes, more will follow.
- brachyura- Thank you kindly. lol, I will keep the complaining to a minimum. - Lorrainej - I remember Aldridges the Grocers in Desborough, they had a few shops in town. But there were a few others. The shop in the High Street with the fountain was MacFisheries. I remember it well. No, I don't get despondant, change in all areas is a feature of Life; No good in letting them get you down. :-) Thanks for the comments. And yes, more will follow. Fractal

11:48am Wed 17 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

Fractal wrote:
- brachyura- Thank you kindly. lol, I will keep the complaining to a minimum. - Lorrainej - I remember Aldridges the Grocers in Desborough, they had a few shops in town. But there were a few others. The shop in the High Street with the fountain was MacFisheries. I remember it well. No, I don't get despondant, change in all areas is a feature of Life; No good in letting them get you down. :-) Thanks for the comments. And yes, more will follow.
Macfisheries, ah yes. I remember Aldridges in the town, my Uncles was Bryants, they were quite well know in the town, especially greengrocery. I remember carrying a bag of groceries for a Lady that owned a sweet shop in Bridge st, it must have been the same one you spoke of, she said I could have whatever I wanted for helping, she must have wished she'd bitten her tongue, I was in there ages, how could I decide, I loved sweets of all descriptions, still do.
[quote][p][bold]Fractal[/bold] wrote: - brachyura- Thank you kindly. lol, I will keep the complaining to a minimum. - Lorrainej - I remember Aldridges the Grocers in Desborough, they had a few shops in town. But there were a few others. The shop in the High Street with the fountain was MacFisheries. I remember it well. No, I don't get despondant, change in all areas is a feature of Life; No good in letting them get you down. :-) Thanks for the comments. And yes, more will follow.[/p][/quote]Macfisheries, ah yes. I remember Aldridges in the town, my Uncles was Bryants, they were quite well know in the town, especially greengrocery. I remember carrying a bag of groceries for a Lady that owned a sweet shop in Bridge st, it must have been the same one you spoke of, she said I could have whatever I wanted for helping, she must have wished she'd bitten her tongue, I was in there ages, how could I decide, I loved sweets of all descriptions, still do. Lorrainej

7:18pm Wed 17 Feb 10

demoness says...

Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema?
Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :)
Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema? Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :) demoness

7:37pm Wed 17 Feb 10

Doom says...

I used to live in flackwell, and when I was a kid a treat for me was to walk into wycombe (the big town!) with my brother and catch the train back to Loudwater, then walk up the narrow lane that was Treadaway Hill back to the village. Really useful line that one, shame beecham and his band of vandals got rid!
When we were mooching around, tea was provided by Murrys, the department store, on the top deck! Loved watching the clock go up and down the stairwell!
I remember the river, and the estate of shacks where lots of small businesses were, now the site of the Swan Theatre.
Things do move on, but it seems odd that Wycombe was once an interesting place, with nooks and crannies a plenty. Shame all that is important now is shopping, and Wycombe has become a shrine to consumerism. ah well.
I used to live in flackwell, and when I was a kid a treat for me was to walk into wycombe (the big town!) with my brother and catch the train back to Loudwater, then walk up the narrow lane that was Treadaway Hill back to the village. Really useful line that one, shame beecham and his band of vandals got rid! When we were mooching around, tea was provided by Murrys, the department store, on the top deck! Loved watching the clock go up and down the stairwell! I remember the river, and the estate of shacks where lots of small businesses were, now the site of the Swan Theatre. Things do move on, but it seems odd that Wycombe was once an interesting place, with nooks and crannies a plenty. Shame all that is important now is shopping, and Wycombe has become a shrine to consumerism. ah well. Doom

8:54pm Wed 17 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

demoness wrote:
Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema? Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :)
Wasn't that Pops
[quote][p][bold]demoness[/bold] wrote: Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema? Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :)[/p][/quote]Wasn't that Pops Lorrainej

9:01pm Wed 17 Feb 10

Fractal says...

- demoness -
The sweet shop's name escapes me. I certainly remember it., As you say it made going to the old Palce a bigger treat. I remember the other cinemas too...


- Doom -
I know what you mean about the town being interesting. I suppose it is seeing things with child-eyes We grow up I suppose.
For me it was the other way round - a walk up through the woods to Frackle was an adventure in itself.
- demoness - The sweet shop's name escapes me. I certainly remember it., As you say it made going to the old Palce a bigger treat. I remember the other cinemas too... - Doom - I know what you mean about the town being interesting. I suppose it is seeing things with child-eyes We grow up I suppose. For me it was the other way round - a walk up through the woods to Frackle was an adventure in itself. Fractal

9:34pm Wed 17 Feb 10

J B Blackett says...

Do I vaguely remember a Co-op store (RACS ?) on the corner of Bridge St and Desboro Rd. Replace by the awful not missed Secondhand City junk shop And there was a beaten up old Community Centre where the Kings Church now stands.
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I think 25+ yrs ago Desborough Road used to have a wide variety of all sorts of small shops and customer friendly businesses.
Now it's a mess of unappetizing fast food outlets , down-market dingy 7/11s and specialist clothes or jewelry shops.
.
Where, when and why did it all go wrong and disappear ? And who allowed it to happen ? (Don't answer that last question).
.
Regards
Do I vaguely remember a Co-op store (RACS ?) on the corner of Bridge St and Desboro Rd. Replace by the awful not missed Secondhand City junk shop And there was a beaten up old Community Centre where the Kings Church now stands. . I think 25+ yrs ago Desborough Road used to have a wide variety of all sorts of small shops and customer friendly businesses. Now it's a mess of unappetizing fast food outlets , down-market dingy 7/11s and specialist clothes or jewelry shops. . Where, when and why did it all go wrong and disappear ? And who allowed it to happen ? (Don't answer that last question). . Regards J B Blackett

9:47pm Wed 17 Feb 10

Fractal says...

I won't mention it...
I won't mention it... Fractal

10:08pm Wed 17 Feb 10

demoness says...

Lorrainej wrote:
demoness wrote: Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema? Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :)
Wasn't that Pops
YESSSSS

That's it. :))
[quote][p][bold]Lorrainej[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness[/bold] wrote: Does anyone remember the sweet shop near the old palace cinema? Going to the pictures was a real treat for me and they used to do the best toffee chews. :)[/p][/quote]Wasn't that Pops[/p][/quote]YESSSSS That's it. :)) demoness

10:10pm Wed 17 Feb 10

demoness says...

J B Blackett wrote:
Do I vaguely remember a Co-op store (RACS ?) on the corner of Bridge St and Desboro Rd. Replace by the awful not missed Secondhand City junk shop And there was a beaten up old Community Centre where the Kings Church now stands. . I think 25+ yrs ago Desborough Road used to have a wide variety of all sorts of small shops and customer friendly businesses. Now it's a mess of unappetizing fast food outlets , down-market dingy 7/11s and specialist clothes or jewelry shops. . Where, when and why did it all go wrong and disappear ? And who allowed it to happen ? (Don't answer that last question). . Regards
I remember that co op. I also remember one near where Mothercare is now and also one in the High Street.
My late lovely Mum used to work in the one in Micklefield. That was a great Co op - they used to do broken biscuits that were sold on a Friday in boxes - mix and match- yum!
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: Do I vaguely remember a Co-op store (RACS ?) on the corner of Bridge St and Desboro Rd. Replace by the awful not missed Secondhand City junk shop And there was a beaten up old Community Centre where the Kings Church now stands. . I think 25+ yrs ago Desborough Road used to have a wide variety of all sorts of small shops and customer friendly businesses. Now it's a mess of unappetizing fast food outlets , down-market dingy 7/11s and specialist clothes or jewelry shops. . Where, when and why did it all go wrong and disappear ? And who allowed it to happen ? (Don't answer that last question). . Regards[/p][/quote]I remember that co op. I also remember one near where Mothercare is now and also one in the High Street. My late lovely Mum used to work in the one in Micklefield. That was a great Co op - they used to do broken biscuits that were sold on a Friday in boxes - mix and match- yum! demoness

10:42pm Wed 17 Feb 10

Fractal says...

Ooh yes the broken biscuits...
There used to be a shop in Temple End where all the biscuits were loose and displayed in containers with a glass lid. All neatly lined up in front of the counter, set at an angle to maximise the view! For a few pennies the owner would sell a bag of broken biscuits. Tantalising tastes of all sorts of yumminess...

... I need a bourbon, be right back!
Ooh yes the broken biscuits... There used to be a shop in Temple End where all the biscuits were loose and displayed in containers with a glass lid. All neatly lined up in front of the counter, set at an angle to maximise the view! For a few pennies the owner would sell a bag of broken biscuits. Tantalising tastes of all sorts of yumminess... ... I need a bourbon, be right back! Fractal

11:10pm Wed 17 Feb 10

demoness says...

Now are you alluding to the great bourbon biscuit or the alcoholic drink?
Now are you alluding to the great bourbon biscuit or the alcoholic drink? demoness

11:49pm Wed 17 Feb 10

J B Blackett says...

There used to be a great Bourbon King and an Alcopop Prince. Both Royal Biscuits and half-baked they say.
There used to be a great Bourbon King and an Alcopop Prince. Both Royal Biscuits and half-baked they say. J B Blackett

12:29am Thu 18 Feb 10

Fractal says...

Squashed flies! - Garibaldi. I would have clawed your arm off for them! ;-)
Squashed flies! - Garibaldi. I would have clawed your arm off for them! ;-) Fractal

12:52am Thu 18 Feb 10

demoness says...

I still love chocolate digestives
I still love chocolate digestives demoness

10:33am Thu 18 Feb 10

oldboy says...

its the faceless multinationals who have killed the communities across the country
its the faceless multinationals who have killed the communities across the country oldboy

10:41am Thu 18 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think
Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think Lorrainej

3:24pm Thu 18 Feb 10

demoness says...

Lorrainej wrote:
Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think
I thought Duce's were in Oxford Road and Smiths in Bull Lane.
Both of them were proper fish and chip restaurants and Smith's did wet fish as well.
[quote][p][bold]Lorrainej[/bold] wrote: Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think[/p][/quote]I thought Duce's were in Oxford Road and Smiths in Bull Lane. Both of them were proper fish and chip restaurants and Smith's did wet fish as well. demoness

3:42pm Thu 18 Feb 10

Fractal says...

Duces where on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot?
Duces where on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot? Fractal

3:51pm Thu 18 Feb 10

Fractal says...

I'm sorry, I'll say that again -

Duces were on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot? (..Still can't recall)
I'm sorry, I'll say that again - Duces were on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot? (..Still can't recall) Fractal

6:02pm Thu 18 Feb 10

Melanie1 says...

Fractal wrote:
Squashed flies! - Garibaldi. I would have clawed your arm off for them! ;-)
Although I like them now I hated them as a child. My grandmother used to buy stale garibaldi biscuits whenever we visited and called them dead fly biscuits. I used to choke them down and then go out and vomit them back up behind the chicken coup! Which is I think why she once shut me in the chicken coup in the dark! I still hate birds flapping around my head some 30 odd years later.
[quote][p][bold]Fractal[/bold] wrote: Squashed flies! - Garibaldi. I would have clawed your arm off for them! ;-)[/p][/quote]Although I like them now I hated them as a child. My grandmother used to buy stale garibaldi biscuits whenever we visited and called them dead fly biscuits. I used to choke them down and then go out and vomit them back up behind the chicken coup! Which is I think why she once shut me in the chicken coup in the dark! I still hate birds flapping around my head some 30 odd years later. Melanie1

6:28pm Thu 18 Feb 10

J B Blackett says...

Fractal wrote:
I'm sorry, I'll say that again -

Duces were on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot? (..Still can't recall)
Look for 'Oxford Street' or 'Duces' on the BCC SWOP site , Fractal
.
On the 1953 (Coronation) photo Dovecot Road can be seen on the right between Duces Fish Cafe and The Woolpack. The Oxford Road Methodist Chapel can just be seen in the distance on the left.
.
Regards
[quote][p][bold]Fractal[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry, I'll say that again - Duces were on the corner of the alley & Oxford Road... Can't recall the name though.. Dovecot? (..Still can't recall)[/p][/quote]Look for 'Oxford Street' or 'Duces' on the BCC SWOP site , Fractal . On the 1953 (Coronation) photo Dovecot Road can be seen on the right between Duces Fish Cafe and The Woolpack. The Oxford Road Methodist Chapel can just be seen in the distance on the left. . Regards J B Blackett

6:32pm Thu 18 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

demoness wrote:
Lorrainej wrote: Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think
I thought Duce's were in Oxford Road and Smiths in Bull Lane. Both of them were proper fish and chip restaurants and Smith's did wet fish as well.
You are right D, brain cells dead, I did move away from Wycombe between the ages of 17-34 tho, Duce's was my favourite
[quote][p][bold]demoness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lorrainej[/bold] wrote: Duce's fish and chip shop, Bull Lane I think[/p][/quote]I thought Duce's were in Oxford Road and Smiths in Bull Lane. Both of them were proper fish and chip restaurants and Smith's did wet fish as well.[/p][/quote]You are right D, brain cells dead, I did move away from Wycombe between the ages of 17-34 tho, Duce's was my favourite Lorrainej

7:51pm Thu 18 Feb 10

Fractal says...

- J B Blackett -
I have to admit I haven't looked for the area on that site. But it is a grand place to browse. Well worth it.

for the uninitiated...
http://www.buckscc.g
ov.uk/bcc/swop/ea_SW
OP_1.page?
- J B Blackett - I have to admit I haven't looked for the area on that site. But it is a grand place to browse. Well worth it. for the uninitiated... http://www.buckscc.g ov.uk/bcc/swop/ea_SW OP_1.page? Fractal

7:54pm Thu 18 Feb 10

demoness says...

Does anyone remember the Souk in Oxford Road? It was a real new agey shop in the seventies and sold anything and everything.
I still have an ornament that was bought for me from there.
Does anyone remember the Souk in Oxford Road? It was a real new agey shop in the seventies and sold anything and everything. I still have an ornament that was bought for me from there. demoness

7:45am Fri 19 Feb 10

Lorrainej says...

Yes, my friend who worked at a trendy hairdressers in Wycombe worked with someone who bought most of her clothes from there. Bit way out for me tho.
~
Most Saturdays, a group of us would go to either the Palace cinema or bowling on Desborough road, great stuff, don't go to the cinema as much, but still love bowling
Yes, my friend who worked at a trendy hairdressers in Wycombe worked with someone who bought most of her clothes from there. Bit way out for me tho. ~ Most Saturdays, a group of us would go to either the Palace cinema or bowling on Desborough road, great stuff, don't go to the cinema as much, but still love bowling Lorrainej

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