Residents to discuss Wycombe District Council reserve site proposal tonight

Gomm Valley is one of the proposed areas for development

Gomm Valley is one of the proposed areas for development

First published in News Bucks Free Press: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A COUNCILLOR has called for residents to work alongside planners to ensure they achieve the best possible solution, after a proposal to release five reserve sites was put forward.

Wycombe District Council’s head of planning committee, Cllr David Johncock, believes community groups all need to work together to guarantee any future developments work for that area.

Plans have been put forward to release five reserve sites across the district for development, to make sure the council can keep in line with government framework to build between 500 and 700 homes every year as part of a five year land supply.

The five areas included in the reserve list are Slate Meadow, Gomm Valley and Ashwells, Abbey Barn South and North and Terriers Farm.

The council will now be holding two public meetings to discuss the proposal further with residents.

Cllr Johncock said: “The next steps beyond the public meetings we are having over August is to actually look at how we set up community groups so we can start to address things like the infrastructure issues, which is actually across the whole district, not just local site specific.

“There will be site specific issues as well, so we will need a group looking at the larger picture and groups looking at each site.

“Yes, we will have a problem, you do get a lot of opposition it is natural.”

He added it is now the job of councillors to ensure that the public have all the information regarding the proposal.

WDC head of planning and sustainability, Penelope Tollitt, said: “According to the new framework we need to be able to show we can develop a certain amount of houses (between 500 and 700) in a five year land supply. But it is not just enough to say we can do it, we actually have to do it.

“That is why we think the time to release those reserve sites is now, in order to demonstrate we are managing that five year supply.

“If we do nothing, developers can put in applications and if we refuse it is very likely they will just be permitted on appeal.”

The first of two public meetings to discuss the proposal is today (Thursday, August 14) and the second meeting will be two weeks later on Thursday, August 28.

To attend either meeting, register by contacting Lynn Bartley on 01494 421101 or Simon Barlow on 01494 421158 or by emailing newlocalplan@wycombe.gov.uk

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7:46am Thu 14 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'.
Steve Baker MP and Nick Clegg should be explaining to the public why changes have been made. Ms Tollitt has certainly changed her attitude and the public deserve to know the detail. Also how this is proposed to end the scandal of the four figure housing waiting list.
Mr Johncock realises he has rebellion on his hands but his response is patronising and unhelpful.
This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'. Steve Baker MP and Nick Clegg should be explaining to the public why changes have been made. Ms Tollitt has certainly changed her attitude and the public deserve to know the detail. Also how this is proposed to end the scandal of the four figure housing waiting list. Mr Johncock realises he has rebellion on his hands but his response is patronising and unhelpful. faircuppa
  • Score: 2

7:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent!
And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent! faircuppa
  • Score: -4

9:13am Thu 14 Aug 14

gpn01 says...

"Cllr David Johncock, believes community groups all need to work together to guarantee any future developments work for that area".........and therein lies a problem. Community groups should be allowed to work with the Council to PREVENT develipment works if the community believes that they're not appropriate.
"Cllr David Johncock, believes community groups all need to work together to guarantee any future developments work for that area".........and therein lies a problem. Community groups should be allowed to work with the Council to PREVENT develipment works if the community believes that they're not appropriate. gpn01
  • Score: 8

9:18am Thu 14 Aug 14

wycombetownie says...

faircuppa wrote:
And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent!
We need Steve Baker to speak out against the sites being brought forward.
WDC officers and s the likes of Cllr Johncock are not helping the situation by saying it must happen.... Cllr Johncock you need to manage your officers and instruct them to do what the residents want
[quote][p][bold]faircuppa[/bold] wrote: And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent![/p][/quote]We need Steve Baker to speak out against the sites being brought forward. WDC officers and s the likes of Cllr Johncock are not helping the situation by saying it must happen.... Cllr Johncock you need to manage your officers and instruct them to do what the residents want wycombetownie
  • Score: 13

10:32am Thu 14 Aug 14

mistamina says...

faircuppa wrote:
And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent!
VERY GOOD POINT!
Where are ALL the Parliamentary Candidate???
Stand up, tell us what you will do, how you will take S Bucks forward. let us see some guts and enthusiasm.

Or are we all going to quietly go along for the ride? Are we going to get a proper robust democratic representation?
[quote][p][bold]faircuppa[/bold] wrote: And furthermore if Nick Clegg is in recess, let us hear from the Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate or his agent![/p][/quote]VERY GOOD POINT! Where are ALL the Parliamentary Candidate??? Stand up, tell us what you will do, how you will take S Bucks forward. let us see some guts and enthusiasm. Or are we all going to quietly go along for the ride? Are we going to get a proper robust democratic representation? mistamina
  • Score: -8

4:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

Tory candidate Steve Baker
UKIP David Meacock
Labour Barrister in Suit
Lib Dem not known possibly S Guy again?
Independent Darren Hayday or Matt Knight
Tory candidate Steve Baker UKIP David Meacock Labour Barrister in Suit Lib Dem not known possibly S Guy again? Independent Darren Hayday or Matt Knight faircuppa
  • Score: -3

5:01pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Scarletto says...

People are starting, a bit late, to huff and puff about new homes being built close to them. The sad hard fact is that these proposals were well aired publicly months ago and quite well publicised as part of "consultation."
But very few households, i suspect, bothered to take up the suggestion by campaigners to write in to the council giving their views on the plans. People only get upset now when the schemes are starting to be finalised. The moaners now should have protested earlier.
It looks as if few people care. They don't read the local papers and they don't get involved in local issues.
Our district has to take its fair share of new homes, even though it's a blow for some residents. We desperately need new homes nationally.
No doubt there was a big fuss each time there was development of housing estates in our areas such as in Hazlemere, Penn, Tylers Green and most other villages around us.
No doubt there was a big campaign about the plan to build the M40 across rolling acres, or some of our trading estates, shopping centres and even, way back, the railway. Progress in the national interest overcame objections. It's a bit like that now.
Best hope is that not too many homes are built and the "load" is spread across umpteen areas rather than just one or two having a lot.
People are starting, a bit late, to huff and puff about new homes being built close to them. The sad hard fact is that these proposals were well aired publicly months ago and quite well publicised as part of "consultation." But very few households, i suspect, bothered to take up the suggestion by campaigners to write in to the council giving their views on the plans. People only get upset now when the schemes are starting to be finalised. The moaners now should have protested earlier. It looks as if few people care. They don't read the local papers and they don't get involved in local issues. Our district has to take its fair share of new homes, even though it's a blow for some residents. We desperately need new homes nationally. No doubt there was a big fuss each time there was development of housing estates in our areas such as in Hazlemere, Penn, Tylers Green and most other villages around us. No doubt there was a big campaign about the plan to build the M40 across rolling acres, or some of our trading estates, shopping centres and even, way back, the railway. Progress in the national interest overcame objections. It's a bit like that now. Best hope is that not too many homes are built and the "load" is spread across umpteen areas rather than just one or two having a lot. Scarletto
  • Score: -15

5:20pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Kania 2000 says...

Where will the infrastructure come from to support these new homes?
Where will the infrastructure come from to support these new homes? Kania 2000
  • Score: 2

12:57am Fri 15 Aug 14

FLiszt says...

This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies!
This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies! FLiszt
  • Score: -9

9:09am Fri 15 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

Kania 2000 wrote:
Where will the infrastructure come from to support these new homes?
Where it always comes from - crisis management!
[quote][p][bold]Kania 2000[/bold] wrote: Where will the infrastructure come from to support these new homes?[/p][/quote]Where it always comes from - crisis management! faircuppa
  • Score: -3

11:18am Sat 16 Aug 14

mistamina says...

FLiszt wrote:
This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies!
Ah yes, almost forgot, scary immigration again.
Are these the out of control Romanians? Or the Bulgarians?
[quote][p][bold]FLiszt[/bold] wrote: This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies![/p][/quote]Ah yes, almost forgot, scary immigration again. Are these the out of control Romanians? Or the Bulgarians? mistamina
  • Score: 3

6:00pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Scarletto says...

FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party.
As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world.
"It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."
FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party. As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world. "It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack." Scarletto
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

Scarletto wrote:
FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party.
As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world.
"It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."
Research shows that economic migrants are having little impact on housing situation as they are renting poor quality housing. Wealthy Chinese and Russians are having a culture changing impact at the high end millionaire market.
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party. As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world. "It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."[/p][/quote]Research shows that economic migrants are having little impact on housing situation as they are renting poor quality housing. Wealthy Chinese and Russians are having a culture changing impact at the high end millionaire market. faircuppa
  • Score: 3

7:09pm Sat 16 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

Scarletto wrote:
FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party.
As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world.
"It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."
Agent provocoteur or Tory Agents assistant. Either way you present Tussaud of stereotypes or whatever is the collective noun for that.
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party. As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world. "It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."[/p][/quote]Agent provocoteur or Tory Agents assistant. Either way you present Tussaud of stereotypes or whatever is the collective noun for that. faircuppa
  • Score: 0

9:17am Sun 17 Aug 14

mistamina says...

Scarletto wrote:
FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party.
As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world.
"It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."
Let us not forget, we in Bucks were promised faithfully that immediately after the last election, Ukip would sack all its dingbats and weirdos.
Anyone seen any sackings?
Ukip has also been strangely quiet over the Safeguarding Ofsted case. They have enough Councillors. What is their opinion on safeguarding our children and the way forward.
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party. As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world. "It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."[/p][/quote]Let us not forget, we in Bucks were promised faithfully that immediately after the last election, Ukip would sack all its dingbats and weirdos. Anyone seen any sackings? Ukip has also been strangely quiet over the Safeguarding Ofsted case. They have enough Councillors. What is their opinion on safeguarding our children and the way forward. mistamina
  • Score: -1

7:56pm Sun 17 Aug 14

faircuppa says...

One can predict that their policy would be that immigration has placed a strain on Social Services! I did hear one of them say that regarding Health Services.
One can predict that their policy would be that immigration has placed a strain on Social Services! I did hear one of them say that regarding Health Services. faircuppa
  • Score: -1

6:11pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Undercover Euro Yob says...

faircuppa wrote:
This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'.
Steve Baker MP and Nick Clegg should be explaining to the public why changes have been made. Ms Tollitt has certainly changed her attitude and the public deserve to know the detail. Also how this is proposed to end the scandal of the four figure housing waiting list.
Mr Johncock realises he has rebellion on his hands but his response is patronising and unhelpful.
This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'.

But not as bad as the meeting last March where Val Letheren made absurd and meaningless noises about ‘closing the (educational) attainment gap in Bucks. This is quite grown-up compared with the meaningless stuff she said about: ‘… work on harnessing’ approaches, or ‘looking at further improving’ things and ‘reviewing support for parents in supporting … ‘ or ‘… strengthening commitments’.

(See: http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/educatio
n/news/11108724.Prop
osals_to_close_educa
tional_gap_between_r
ich_and_poor/)

As you say it is intended to placate members of an electorate who are regarded as in the main ineducable and in need of calming.
[quote][p][bold]faircuppa[/bold] wrote: This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'. Steve Baker MP and Nick Clegg should be explaining to the public why changes have been made. Ms Tollitt has certainly changed her attitude and the public deserve to know the detail. Also how this is proposed to end the scandal of the four figure housing waiting list. Mr Johncock realises he has rebellion on his hands but his response is patronising and unhelpful.[/p][/quote][italic] This is strangely reminiscent of the recent Health Inquiry outcome that it is the job of councillors to explain the changes to A and E to the public. To placate the public and not to complain. This is Nanny state stuff 'do as you are told - it is good for you'. [/italic] But not as bad as the meeting last March where Val Letheren made absurd and meaningless noises about ‘closing the (educational) attainment gap in Bucks. This is quite grown-up compared with the meaningless stuff she said about: ‘… work on harnessing’ approaches, or ‘looking at further improving’ things and ‘reviewing support for parents in supporting … ‘ or ‘… strengthening commitments’. (See: http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/educatio n/news/11108724.Prop osals_to_close_educa tional_gap_between_r ich_and_poor/) As you say it is intended to placate members of an electorate who are regarded as in the main ineducable and in need of calming. Undercover Euro Yob
  • Score: 1

11:36am Sun 24 Aug 14

mistamina says...

mistamina wrote:
FLiszt wrote:
This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies!
Ah yes, almost forgot, scary immigration again.
Are these the out of control Romanians? Or the Bulgarians?
Breaking news: what about Bong-Bong Land.
Breaking News: Let us not forget the Ting-Tongs.
[quote][p][bold]mistamina[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FLiszt[/bold] wrote: This is Wycombe taking its share of uncontrolled immigration and so will only get worse unless the UK adopts the Australian points system controlling both quantity and quality. This will only be able to be implemented if we leave the EU as the key EU leaders have made it abundantly clear that the free movement of all EU citizens within open EU nations' borders is non-negotiable. Join and vote UKIP for these policies![/p][/quote]Ah yes, almost forgot, scary immigration again. Are these the out of control Romanians? Or the Bulgarians?[/p][/quote]Breaking news: what about Bong-Bong Land. Breaking News: Let us not forget the Ting-Tongs. mistamina
  • Score: -1

11:46am Sun 24 Aug 14

mistamina says...

faircuppa wrote:
Scarletto wrote:
FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party.
As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world.
"It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."
Research shows that economic migrants are having little impact on housing situation as they are renting poor quality housing. Wealthy Chinese and Russians are having a culture changing impact at the high end millionaire market.
FLiszt (odd name for an isolationist?),
Are you and your friends actually taking all this in. This is quality fact based information, you know, from people that care and dig into facts.

Are you capable of discerning fact from your own internal prejudices?

Would love an answer.
PS. 'Just Wait and See' is not an acceptable answer.
[quote][p][bold]faircuppa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: FLiszt has now joined in with a poisonous message which would have cheered up Hitler and now much later his modern chums in the BNP and the odd-bods and dingbats in the UK Isolation Party. As if there isn't already enough misery and unrest in the world. "It's not right... These foreigners are coming over here, taking our women, our jobs, having lots of babies, living the high life on benefit and they don't speak our lingo. They're an absolute shower. If I lived in an impoverished country I wouldn't try to better myself in another part of the EU to earn money to help my wife, kids and old mum. I'm alright Jack."[/p][/quote]Research shows that economic migrants are having little impact on housing situation as they are renting poor quality housing. Wealthy Chinese and Russians are having a culture changing impact at the high end millionaire market.[/p][/quote]FLiszt (odd name for an isolationist?), Are you and your friends actually taking all this in. This is quality fact based information, you know, from people that care and dig into facts. Are you capable of discerning fact from your own internal prejudices? Would love an answer. PS. 'Just Wait and See' is not an acceptable answer. mistamina
  • Score: 0

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