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Angry residents locked out of meeting
8:44pm Wednesday 23rd July 2008
ANGRY residents, aggrieved about "noisy" flights, were locked out of a meeting at Wycombe Air Park tonight.
Members of The Wycombe Air Park Joint Consultative Committee told the group that the public were banned from the meeting on advice of the police.
It is unclear exactly what was being discussed at the meeting.
Campaigners, who say flights are too noisy at the Booker site, demanded to know why they were not allowed in.
However, committee members including airpark manager Tim Orchard, said residents had been told in advance they would be excluded and they could not give a more precise reason.
Mr Orchard said: "The public have been told that the meeting is closed, that the meeting is in camera this evening."
Wycombe district councillor Roger Emmett who was among those that attended the meeting declined to comment when asked by the Bucks Free Press.
Robert Rendel, of Shogmore Lane, Frieth said: "It's diabolical, I'm speechless. They have handled it extremely badly. This has been happening for many years, people have been fobbed off and it's quite shameful."
Jane Osborn, of Ditchfield Common, Lane End said: "I'm deeply disappointed because it doesn't feel very democratic and I thought it was."
Susan Pratt, founder of Wycombe Air Park Action Group, said she had counted 22 aircraft fly over her garden in an hour on one occasion.
She said: "I think they have tarred their public image by handling it this way but we will get to know what went on one way or the other."
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Reads2much, London says...
9:37pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Observer, of Aircraft says...
11:06pm Wed 23 Jul 08
George - Wycombe, says...
11:51pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Ivor, I bet you wouldn't complain if one of those planes was flying in urgent medical supplies you or someone close to you needed.
Booker Airport has probably been there longer than ALL those angry campaigners who have no right to attend the meeting if the truth were known.
We live in a democracy, we elect our MP's and local councillors to represent us, any complaints should be channelled through them, this meeting was a joint consultative meeting involving the Air Park management, those elected councillors along with possibly other interested groups who are vital to the Wycombe economy.
These angry protesters should accept the democratic process, use it and not take the law into their own hands.
I have planes flying over my home (I imagine these are for business reasons) in the middle/early hours of the night, there one minute, gone the next, if people choose to purchase homes near or on the flightpath of an airport a certain amount of noise may be heard.
If the Airfield were used for a Glastonbury type music event, then you would hear noise.
Ivor, says...
12:45am Thu 24 Jul 08
Are the planes arriving at Booker Airfield carrying urgent medical supplies then?
I rather thought the Booker bombers were merely pleasure toys to keep the rich amused.
My family was here before the airfield and we have had to suffer the incessant noise of the aircraft for many years now.
Lets hope the airfield is sold off to be used for better purposes such as a new football stadium or a housing development.
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Town-man, High Wycombe says...
5:38am Thu 24 Jul 08
smokey, high wycombe says...
6:52am Thu 24 Jul 08
Ivor wrote:but there are too many new houses in wycombe being built, You have said so many times.....
Re the comments of George - Wycombe on 11:51pm Are the planes arriving at Booker Airfield carrying urgent medical supplies then? I rather thought the Booker bombers were merely pleasure toys to keep the rich amused. My family was here before the airfield and we have had to suffer the incessant noise of the aircraft for many years now. Lets hope the airfield is sold off to be used for better purposes such as a new football stadium or a housing development. Have you read Ivors blog today? Click on the Opinion link on the menu on the left then click on Readers Blogs.
R of Wycombe, High Wycombe says...
7:59am Thu 24 Jul 08
Lets hope the airfield is sold off to be used for better purposes such as a new football stadium
Ivor, you want a new football stadium built there because of the noise from the airfield. So you think that a football stadium will be quieter ??? Hello !!!
Earth to planet Ivor.
morty, High Wycombe says...
8:57am Thu 24 Jul 08
We live in a democracy
I suspect you really believe that!!
Nukem!, HWY says...
9:11am Thu 24 Jul 08
Ivor, says...
9:24am Thu 24 Jul 08
Town-man, High Wycombe on 5:38amBut my family was living in here before the infernal air park was created.
I can never understand these people conplaining. The air park has been there for over 70yrs. They should have not bought their homes under a flight path or any where near the airpark.
Its time to consider the people of the town rather than the rich people who want the play at being biggles.
Close the air park and use the land for something else!
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Rick, Lane End says...
9:31am Thu 24 Jul 08
Concerning democracy, the JCC is a public meeting which the public has the right to attend. The comment that it should be left to elected councillors etc is unwarranted - the public has a right to be there!
On the subject of the airfield itself, while it's been there a long time the current levels of traffic have not. Helicopters are a more recent and more serious nuisance. The gliders have been there for ages but are not a problem.
Finally, since the JCC meeting yesterday was discussing an (alleged) serious incident to an aircraft flying from Booker, surely the public is entitled to know what happened and why aircraft are continuing to fly while (we are told) a police investigation is underway? If we really do live in a democracy then surely that is our right.
Kadoogan, Wycombe says...
9:57am Thu 24 Jul 08
I suggest building the extension directly through Ivor's living room.
Molar Man, bottom row , fifth right says...
10:00am today Thu 24 Jul 08
Leave the air park alone. I live right under the flight path and it doesn't bother me one bit. I fully accept that air park has been in existence far longer than me or the house I live in.
Perhaps I'll move next to the railway and demand that be turned into a nice peaceful cycle lane.
While we're at it I think that noisy M40 should be destroyed and replaced with a canal. Wouldn't that be lovely.
These sad people who complain really do have too much time on their hands. Does it really cause that much grief out there in Frieth when it causes me no problem living a mile away?! Poor Susan Pratt doesn't have anything better to do than count (on one occasion) 22 planes in an hour. The clue is in your surname Susan! I've sat in my garden and on several occasions not seen a plane bound for Booker for several hours. You sure you aren't counting 747s bound for Heathrow?
Bunch of busybodies the lot of you.
Elmo, High Wycombe says...
10:24am Thu 24 Jul 08
I actually grew in Chal. St. Peter where we had constant planes flying across from Denham, a noise which still reminds me of a happier place.
bunny, bucks says...
10:50am Thu 24 Jul 08
Lib/Lab Watch, Watching Left Wing Nutters says...
11:06am Thu 24 Jul 08
How 'sad'...
yabbadabbadoo, wooburn green says...
11:31am Thu 24 Jul 08
i lived right under the flight path for years and my parents still do and its no problem at all.
some people aren't happy unless they're moaning about something- get a life and chill out abit.
there are far more important things to think and worry about surely??
and i wasn't calling you shirley!
R of Wycombe, High Wycombe says...
11:48am Thu 24 Jul 08
Have you read Ivors blog today?Nope
Mandy, Sands says...
12:46pm Thu 24 Jul 08
As molar man has already said, I can't believe it would effect people in Frieth that much.
David St, High Wycombe says...
12:58pm Thu 24 Jul 08
After a while you get used to the noise which is not that bad, these are propeller engined planes not jet engined.
I think those complaining have another more sinister agenda at hand.......
Ivor, says...
1:06pm Thu 24 Jul 08
R of Wycombe wrote:Then have a look! You dont know what your are missing!
Have you read Ivors blog today?Nope
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Elmo, High Wycombe says...
1:13pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Ivor wrote:Don't bother, it is of very little consequence.
R of Wycombe wrote:Then have a look! You dont know what your are missing! Have you read Ivors blog today? Click on the Opinion link on the menu on the left then click on Readers Blogs.Have you read Ivors blog today?Nope
Spitfire, High Wycombe says...
1:19pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Elmo wrote:but but but... the old library had flowers!
Ivor wrote:Don't bother, it is of very little consequence.R of Wycombe wrote:Then have a look! You dont know what your are missing! Have you read Ivors blog today? Click on the Opinion link on the menu on the left then click on Readers Blogs.Have you read Ivors blog today?Nope
Jay, High Wycombe says...
1:27pm Thu 24 Jul 08
You say your family lived there before the airfield was there, so I guess some of those members of your family have since passed - if you inherited the property then you could have sold it (for a pretty penny too!) and moved elsewhere, or do you still have a shrine to your mother and wear her wig and clothes and snurge about in the attic a la Bates Motel... Move with the times you idiot!
Blaze Falconburger, HW says...
1:51pm Thu 24 Jul 08
If so - slightly hypocritical NIMBY's eh?!!
Spitfire, High Wycombe says...
2:00pm Thu 24 Jul 08
David St, High Wycombe says...
2:20pm Thu 24 Jul 08
sr, says...
2:23pm Thu 24 Jul 08
R of Wycombe, High Wycombe says...
2:41pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Spitfire wrote:Are the aircraft hangar doors painted pink ?
Elmo wrote:but but but... the old library had flowers!Ivor wrote:Don't bother, it is of very little consequence.R of Wycombe wrote:Then have a look! You dont know what your are missing! Have you read Ivors blog today? Click on the Opinion link on the menu on the left then click on Readers Blogs.Have you read Ivors blog today?Nope
Blaze Falconburger, HW says...
2:42pm Thu 24 Jul 08
Elmo, High Wycombe says...
4:28pm Thu 24 Jul 08
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matthewjohn, highwycombe says...
8:55pm Thu 24 Jul 08
people buy a house near booker air park THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT NOISE !!!!!!
George - Wycombe, says...
10:03pm Thu 24 Jul 08
I take it he would not be bothered if the green belt were covered with tarmac.
The windbag should go into orbit courtesy of his own personal hot air balloon.
Ivor, says...
10:18pm Thu 24 Jul 08
George - Wycombe wrote:A football stadium would cause less disturbance than the infernal aircraft which create noise over the whole of the western part of the town.
Ivor is in favour of a football stadium and the building of hundreds of houses on what is virtually a GREEN space. I take it he would not be bothered if the green belt were covered with tarmac. The windbag should go into orbit courtesy of his own personal hot air balloon.
I am not in favour of the destruction of the green belt but in this case I feel anything would be better than the infernal airfield.
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R of Wycombe, High Wycombe says...
7:39am Fri 25 Jul 08
A football stadium would cause less disturbance than the infernal aircraft which create noise over the whole of the western part of the townLet's face it Ivor, you're just jealous of me and my friends who can afford our own planes and come and go as we wish while you suffer in your own little world worrying about what colour to paint doors. If i knew where you lived, i'd come and buzz your back garden a couple of times.
Elmo, High Wycombe says...
8:42am Fri 25 Jul 08
redkite, Newmer Common says...
10:54am Sun 27 Jul 08
For all of those people who are having a go at Ivor, all I can say is that the rate payers of Wycombe are subsidising a small group of leisuretime fliers.
Ivor, says...
10:18pm Sun 27 Jul 08
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wayne, wycombe says...
11:33pm Sun 27 Jul 08
Ivor wrote:Ivor, you are a prat! Have you heard the noise from the existing football ground?
This is outrageous! The planes are nothing but a nuisance and should be stopped. The Air Park should be closed and the land used for a new football ground or for houses. Have you read Ivors blog today? Click on the Opinion link on the menu on the left then click on Readers Blogs.
wayne, wycombe says...
11:34pm Sun 27 Jul 08
Reads2much wrote:It's because people come into the area, realise there's an airfield then moan like hell. We should have an action group against these morons, not the aircraft.
Is it that air travel has gone up is that what people are upset about ? as its been there for years - I used to play badminton in one of the shelters !!!
Ivor, says...
2:26am Mon 28 Jul 08
No, I havent heard the noise from the football ground. I never have as I am too far away. But I (and the rest of the western part of Wycombe) hear the noise from those planes every day and its most annoying!
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wayne, wycombe says...
6:07pm Mon 28 Jul 08
redkite wrote:Hello Susan, back to the untruths again. You might like to tell all how much the lease is on top of the annual rent before you mouth off.
I think it is time that someone put a lot of people in the picture. Under the freedom of information act we have been informed that the rent that the Air Park pay Wycombe District Council is less than £50,000 per annum. The site is over 200 acres. The value of the site as one could imagine is considerable. The interest alone on the money market would be well in excess of £1,000,000 per annum. For all of those people who are having a go at Ivor, all I can say is that the rate payers of Wycombe are subsidising a small group of leisuretime fliers.
Also, (apart from you and Shuflebottom of course)who on earth wants an 12-18000 seater stadium on greenbelt and on their doorsteps? not many I should imagine.
Jones, Thames Valley says...
6:31pm Tue 29 Jul 08
redkite, Newmer Common says...
9:09pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Firstly my name is not Susan.
Secondly what untruths are you refering to.
Yes I have quoted the peppercorn lease figure and that is all that is paid to the council for the use of the site. No more no less.
What rent are you refering to?
Who is Shfflebottom?
I also believe that there must be in excess of 10,000 people who would go to watch wasps at their new venue.
Wayne are you a rate payer in Wycombe?
If so you should worry about the amount of rates that you are paying to subsidise the very few flyers.
wayne, wycombe says...
1:20am Sat 2 Aug 08
Hyde Park would net many millions of pounds in both land sale, lease and rates but then the 'subsidised' users of Hyde Park would not have a green and pleasant area which they could enjoy.
Lastly,what you believe doesn't count for much does it really?
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Ivor, says...
8:50pm Wed 23 Jul 08
The Air Park should be closed and the land used for a new football ground or for houses.
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