Rail fare increase tough to take, says Beaconsfield commuter Andy Pinto

Bucks Free Press: Andy Pinto Andy Pinto

THE latest increases in rail fares and car parking charges will be hard to swallow for Beaconsfield commuters, says Andy Pinto.

Season tickets from Beaconsfield Station have gone up by about £100 this month, a rise of 3.8 per cent, meaning London commuters now have to fork out £2,840 per year.

The weekday car park charges have also increased by 50p to £6.50 per day.

Though the trains have got slightly quicker, Mr Pinto, who works as a treasurer in the West End, said he has “not really noticed an improvement on three years ago.”

And the 44-year-old says the repeated signal failures and disruption which hit Chiltern Railways in 2011 are still fresh in passengers’ minds (see related links).

He added: “Asking people to pay extra after lowering our expectations and then getting them back up seems a bit rich.”

The Penn resident already gave up parking at the station, preferring to rent a private residential parking space nearby from his mum’s neighbour.

Chiltern Railways defended the increase in fares, pointing out the rise is lower than the 3.9 per cent industry average. The increase in Beaconsfield is higher than the firm’s average increase of 3.5 per cent, however.

Thomas Ableman, Commercial Director of Chiltern Railways said: “We understand that fare increases are hard however, currently the costs of running our train service are not covered by the fares we receive from passengers.

“We have kept our fares as low as we can and our average increase is lower than the industry average.

“In the last three years we have improved the overall journey time for Beaconsfield and we have invested in the car park creating 696 spaces. In addition, we have invested in refurbishing trains and increasing our train fleet, allowing more people to take advantage of our service.”

Average journeys on peak trains between Beaconsfield and Marylebone are about three to four minutes quicker than in 2009.

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11:16am Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Do these people expect to travel for nothing???
Do these people expect to travel for nothing??? miccles
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11:33am Mon 21 Jan 13

pennman says...

Service is appalling at the moment, due to snow. How comes, if it has been snowing in this country since before trains were invented, Chiltern Rail get caught out every year by the cold, snow, ice, rain, leaves...they really are the pits.
Service is appalling at the moment, due to snow. How comes, if it has been snowing in this country since before trains were invented, Chiltern Rail get caught out every year by the cold, snow, ice, rain, leaves...they really are the pits. pennman
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11:37am Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

pennman wrote:
Service is appalling at the moment, due to snow. How comes, if it has been snowing in this country since before trains were invented, Chiltern Rail get caught out every year by the cold, snow, ice, rain, leaves...they really are the pits.
Its all transport, not just Chiltern Railway. In fact the times i've used them service has been excellent, on time, journey times have improved greatly.
[quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: Service is appalling at the moment, due to snow. How comes, if it has been snowing in this country since before trains were invented, Chiltern Rail get caught out every year by the cold, snow, ice, rain, leaves...they really are the pits.[/p][/quote]Its all transport, not just Chiltern Railway. In fact the times i've used them service has been excellent, on time, journey times have improved greatly. miccles
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12:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

pennman says...

Journey times have not really improved at all from Beaconsfield. There are two 'fast' services in the afternoon / evening, one goes at 1610, and is empty, the other at 1820ish is better, but packed. The fast service in the morning is too crowded to get on.
Trains were appalling on Friday when 7 in a row were either cancelled or delayed. In Northern mainland Europe, trains run like clockwork, even when it snows (and that's 'proper' snow)!
Journey times have not really improved at all from Beaconsfield. There are two 'fast' services in the afternoon / evening, one goes at 1610, and is empty, the other at 1820ish is better, but packed. The fast service in the morning is too crowded to get on. Trains were appalling on Friday when 7 in a row were either cancelled or delayed. In Northern mainland Europe, trains run like clockwork, even when it snows (and that's 'proper' snow)! pennman
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12:39pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

miccles wrote:
Do these people expect to travel for nothing???
What makes you think that? Can't see a mention of anyone asking for free travel.
[quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: Do these people expect to travel for nothing???[/p][/quote]What makes you think that? Can't see a mention of anyone asking for free travel. Kadoogan
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12:55pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
miccles wrote:
Do these people expect to travel for nothing???
What makes you think that? Can't see a mention of anyone asking for free travel.
Are you talking about ???????????????

You obviously don't know about english expressions or statements do you?
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: Do these people expect to travel for nothing???[/p][/quote]What makes you think that? Can't see a mention of anyone asking for free travel.[/p][/quote]Are you talking about ??????????????? You obviously don't know about english expressions or statements do you? miccles
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1:08pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

What was the point of your question if you know that is not what they are asking for? Just having a moan for the sake of it?

I should point out the word 'What' should probably proceed your first sentence. Perhaps your own English needs some improvement?

It can't have escaped your notice that train fares have risen at a greater rate than inflation for several years now. Those who use the train have every right to query yet another rise.
What was the point of your question if you know that is not what they are asking for? Just having a moan for the sake of it? I should point out the word 'What' should probably proceed your first sentence. Perhaps your own English needs some improvement? It can't have escaped your notice that train fares have risen at a greater rate than inflation for several years now. Those who use the train have every right to query yet another rise. Kadoogan
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1:21pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
What was the point of your question if you know that is not what they are asking for? Just having a moan for the sake of it?

I should point out the word 'What' should probably proceed your first sentence. Perhaps your own English needs some improvement?

It can't have escaped your notice that train fares have risen at a greater rate than inflation for several years now. Those who use the train have every right to query yet another rise.
go vent your anger and ignorance elsewhere will you, you obviously dont know what you are on about.

Are train fares the only thing that has gone up recentley??? NO, we all have to pay the price come what may.
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: What was the point of your question if you know that is not what they are asking for? Just having a moan for the sake of it? I should point out the word 'What' should probably proceed your first sentence. Perhaps your own English needs some improvement? It can't have escaped your notice that train fares have risen at a greater rate than inflation for several years now. Those who use the train have every right to query yet another rise.[/p][/quote]go vent your anger and ignorance elsewhere will you, you obviously dont know what you are on about. Are train fares the only thing that has gone up recentley??? NO, we all have to pay the price come what may. miccles
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1:33pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

You start by making an obviously fallacious statement, then getting upset when someone points it out? If you are incapable of conversing in a decent manner online I suggest stepping away from your computer and relaxing.

If I don't know what I am on about you'll easily be able to point at the exact text where I stated something incorrect, won't you?

Oh, it's spelt 'recently'. Thought you'd appreciate the correction, what with your interest in English.
You start by making an obviously fallacious statement, then getting upset when someone points it out? If you are incapable of conversing in a decent manner online I suggest stepping away from your computer and relaxing. If I don't know what I am on about you'll easily be able to point at the exact text where I stated something incorrect, won't you? Oh, it's spelt 'recently'. Thought you'd appreciate the correction, what with your interest in English. Kadoogan
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1:36pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

Hmmm, 'getting' should read 'get'. Re-reading my 'Proper English For The Internet' right now.
Hmmm, 'getting' should read 'get'. Re-reading my 'Proper English For The Internet' right now. Kadoogan
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1:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
You start by making an obviously fallacious statement, then getting upset when someone points it out? If you are incapable of conversing in a decent manner online I suggest stepping away from your computer and relaxing.

If I don't know what I am on about you'll easily be able to point at the exact text where I stated something incorrect, won't you?

Oh, it's spelt 'recently'. Thought you'd appreciate the correction, what with your interest in English.
I think you are here to annoy, so trot off and do something useful.

Who started this, YOU, if you read back, you are obviously ignorant in some parts of the english language, so you better go and learn.

Who is getting upset? i think its you, certainly not me. so trot off
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: You start by making an obviously fallacious statement, then getting upset when someone points it out? If you are incapable of conversing in a decent manner online I suggest stepping away from your computer and relaxing. If I don't know what I am on about you'll easily be able to point at the exact text where I stated something incorrect, won't you? Oh, it's spelt 'recently'. Thought you'd appreciate the correction, what with your interest in English.[/p][/quote]I think you are here to annoy, so trot off and do something useful. Who started this, YOU, if you read back, you are obviously ignorant in some parts of the english language, so you better go and learn. Who is getting upset? i think its you, certainly not me. so trot off miccles
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1:59pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up.

What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?
Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up. What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in? Kadoogan
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2:07pm Mon 21 Jan 13

thethe says...

You are both ridiculous so stop it

As for Chiltern Railways, the service is pretty good in comparison with other rail companies but the fares are extortionate for such a short journey. Season ticket holders should also get free parking and free use of the toilets at Marylebone. Charging for those in top of £2-3k season ticket is a bit of a liberty
You are both ridiculous so stop it As for Chiltern Railways, the service is pretty good in comparison with other rail companies but the fares are extortionate for such a short journey. Season ticket holders should also get free parking and free use of the toilets at Marylebone. Charging for those in top of £2-3k season ticket is a bit of a liberty thethe
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2:09pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up.

What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?
Excuse Me

Have you or have you not ever heard the expression

Do people want something for nothing???
Answer YES or NO?

What is ridiculous about that statement please???
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up. What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?[/p][/quote]Excuse Me Have you or have you not ever heard the expression Do people want something for nothing??? Answer YES or NO? What is ridiculous about that statement please??? miccles
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2:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

thethe wrote:
You are both ridiculous so stop it

As for Chiltern Railways, the service is pretty good in comparison with other rail companies but the fares are extortionate for such a short journey. Season ticket holders should also get free parking and free use of the toilets at Marylebone. Charging for those in top of £2-3k season ticket is a bit of a liberty
I think you are riduculous saying you should get free use of the car park and toilets,
[quote][p][bold]thethe[/bold] wrote: You are both ridiculous so stop it As for Chiltern Railways, the service is pretty good in comparison with other rail companies but the fares are extortionate for such a short journey. Season ticket holders should also get free parking and free use of the toilets at Marylebone. Charging for those in top of £2-3k season ticket is a bit of a liberty[/p][/quote]I think you are riduculous saying you should get free use of the car park and toilets, miccles
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2:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

miccles wrote:
Kadoogan wrote:
Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up.

What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?
Excuse Me

Have you or have you not ever heard the expression

Do people want something for nothing???
Answer YES or NO?

What is ridiculous about that statement please???
Miccles, it's ridiculous when it is so clearly not the case.

thethe, I'd agree that the fares are getting too high. The last thing we should be doing in the current climate is making it ever more expensive for people to travel to their jobs. There are so many jobs in London that are not well-paid. Given how expensive London is to live in, and the stricter controls in housing benefit etc, it seems crazy to continually get closer to pricing people out of commuting to those jobs.
[quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up. What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?[/p][/quote]Excuse Me Have you or have you not ever heard the expression Do people want something for nothing??? Answer YES or NO? What is ridiculous about that statement please???[/p][/quote]Miccles, it's ridiculous when it is so clearly not the case. thethe, I'd agree that the fares are getting too high. The last thing we should be doing in the current climate is making it ever more expensive for people to travel to their jobs. There are so many jobs in London that are not well-paid. Given how expensive London is to live in, and the stricter controls in housing benefit etc, it seems crazy to continually get closer to pricing people out of commuting to those jobs. Kadoogan
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2:39pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
miccles wrote:
Kadoogan wrote:
Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up.

What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?
Excuse Me

Have you or have you not ever heard the expression

Do people want something for nothing???
Answer YES or NO?

What is ridiculous about that statement please???
Miccles, it's ridiculous when it is so clearly not the case.

thethe, I'd agree that the fares are getting too high. The last thing we should be doing in the current climate is making it ever more expensive for people to travel to their jobs. There are so many jobs in London that are not well-paid. Given how expensive London is to live in, and the stricter controls in housing benefit etc, it seems crazy to continually get closer to pricing people out of commuting to those jobs.
You didn't answer the question, and to be honest you clearly haven't got a clue.

I spend roughly £2,000 per year on petrol getting to work, so the price of a train ticket to London, is not that bad at all when you think about it. In most cases people get paid London Weighting, which all adds up.

So answer the question then YES or NO??
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Miccles, you made a ridiculous statement. You were called on it. Instead of having a reasonable discussion about the subject of the article you just started acting like a little child by denying reality and insisting it's all someone else's fault, and you are just being picked on. Grow up. What parts of the English (that should be capitalised, which you don't seem aware of) language am I obviously ignorant in?[/p][/quote]Excuse Me Have you or have you not ever heard the expression Do people want something for nothing??? Answer YES or NO? What is ridiculous about that statement please???[/p][/quote]Miccles, it's ridiculous when it is so clearly not the case. thethe, I'd agree that the fares are getting too high. The last thing we should be doing in the current climate is making it ever more expensive for people to travel to their jobs. There are so many jobs in London that are not well-paid. Given how expensive London is to live in, and the stricter controls in housing benefit etc, it seems crazy to continually get closer to pricing people out of commuting to those jobs.[/p][/quote]You didn't answer the question, and to be honest you clearly haven't got a clue. I spend roughly £2,000 per year on petrol getting to work, so the price of a train ticket to London, is not that bad at all when you think about it. In most cases people get paid London Weighting, which all adds up. So answer the question then YES or NO?? miccles
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2:54pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

The original question was 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing'. The answer is clearly no. People are querying yet another (above-inflation) rise. In no way have they given the impression they expect to travel for nothing.

Your later version of the question is 'Do people want something for nothing?'. I'm sure they would love something for nothing, but that isn't what they are asking for here.
The original question was 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing'. The answer is clearly no. People are querying yet another (above-inflation) rise. In no way have they given the impression they expect to travel for nothing. Your later version of the question is 'Do people want something for nothing?'. I'm sure they would love something for nothing, but that isn't what they are asking for here. Kadoogan
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3:05pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Lokolo says...

I don't think I've ever paid for the toilets at Marylebone, the entrance barriers are either open or not working!

But I think the the service is pretty good to be honest. I always get a seat from Wycombe at around 7.30 and I always get a seat home at around 6-6.30.
I don't think I've ever paid for the toilets at Marylebone, the entrance barriers are either open or not working! But I think the the service is pretty good to be honest. I always get a seat from Wycombe at around 7.30 and I always get a seat home at around 6-6.30. Lokolo
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3:07pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
The original question was 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing'. The answer is clearly no. People are querying yet another (above-inflation) rise. In no way have they given the impression they expect to travel for nothing.

Your later version of the question is 'Do people want something for nothing?'. I'm sure they would love something for nothing, but that isn't what they are asking for here.
Just forget it, you obviously dont understand plain english., so what you don't understand, dont criticise.
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: The original question was 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing'. The answer is clearly no. People are querying yet another (above-inflation) rise. In no way have they given the impression they expect to travel for nothing. Your later version of the question is 'Do people want something for nothing?'. I'm sure they would love something for nothing, but that isn't what they are asking for here.[/p][/quote]Just forget it, you obviously dont understand plain english., so what you don't understand, dont criticise. miccles
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3:14pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

Are you this obtuse in real life?

Explain how they are asking to travel for nothing.
Are you this obtuse in real life? Explain how they are asking to travel for nothing. Kadoogan
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3:25pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
Are you this obtuse in real life?

Explain how they are asking to travel for nothing.
You clearly dont understand, i'm certainly not teaching you english lessons, so go and ask one of your friends if you have any.
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Are you this obtuse in real life? Explain how they are asking to travel for nothing.[/p][/quote]You clearly dont understand, i'm certainly not teaching you english lessons, so go and ask one of your friends if you have any. miccles
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3:40pm Mon 21 Jan 13

pennman says...

you may get a service to and from Wycombe, and you usually can get a seat to and from Beaconsfield, but not on the (very rare) non-stop trains, which we were promised with in when they disrupted the service for months on end 'improving' the line. Beaconsfield did not get a benefit.
And who on Earth gets London Weighting?
And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting from Beaconsfield- ok, but not great and no better than it was 18 months ago when they cocked up so badly in the first place
you may get a service to and from Wycombe, and you usually can get a seat to and from Beaconsfield, but not on the (very rare) non-stop trains, which we were promised with in when they disrupted the service for months on end 'improving' the line. Beaconsfield did not get a benefit. And who on Earth gets London Weighting? And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting from Beaconsfield- ok, but not great and no better than it was 18 months ago when they cocked up so badly in the first place pennman
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3:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

Good grief.

What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says?

"go and ask one of your friends if you have any"

Seriously, this is the level of your argument?
Good grief. What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says? "go and ask one of your friends if you have any" Seriously, this is the level of your argument? Kadoogan
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3:50pm Mon 21 Jan 13

realist_highwycombe says...

Deary me! I saw all these comments on here and thought this was a hot topic! As it turns out it's two people trying to get one up on each other! (That said though I do agree with you Kadoogan in relation to the stupid amount of money it costs to use the Chiltern line!)

If you compare it to the line that Tfl runs from Amersham and Chilterns other line from Aylesbury the cost of travelling is cheaper.

I know the Government are reducing the amount of money they allocate to subsidide the railway but if Midland Mainline can release many advance fares to Sheffield/Derby for as little as £5 one way and around £15 return then why cant Chiltern?
Deary me! I saw all these comments on here and thought this was a hot topic! As it turns out it's two people trying to get one up on each other! (That said though I do agree with you Kadoogan in relation to the stupid amount of money it costs to use the Chiltern line!) If you compare it to the line that Tfl runs from Amersham and Chilterns other line from Aylesbury the cost of travelling is cheaper. I know the Government are reducing the amount of money they allocate to subsidide the railway but if Midland Mainline can release many advance fares to Sheffield/Derby for as little as £5 one way and around £15 return then why cant Chiltern? realist_highwycombe
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3:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

pennman wrote:
you may get a service to and from Wycombe, and you usually can get a seat to and from Beaconsfield, but not on the (very rare) non-stop trains, which we were promised with in when they disrupted the service for months on end 'improving' the line. Beaconsfield did not get a benefit.
And who on Earth gets London Weighting?
And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting from Beaconsfield- ok, but not great and no better than it was 18 months ago when they cocked up so badly in the first place
And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting

Yes i have to sit in traffic jams at peak times.
[quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: you may get a service to and from Wycombe, and you usually can get a seat to and from Beaconsfield, but not on the (very rare) non-stop trains, which we were promised with in when they disrupted the service for months on end 'improving' the line. Beaconsfield did not get a benefit. And who on Earth gets London Weighting? And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting from Beaconsfield- ok, but not great and no better than it was 18 months ago when they cocked up so badly in the first place[/p][/quote]And Miccles, you drive to work, have you tried peak-time commuting Yes i have to sit in traffic jams at peak times. miccles
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3:58pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
Good grief.

What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says?

"go and ask one of your friends if you have any"

Seriously, this is the level of your argument?
What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says?

You really don't get the picture do you.
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Good grief. What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says? "go and ask one of your friends if you have any" Seriously, this is the level of your argument?[/p][/quote]What does 'Do these people expect to travel for nothing?' mean to you then, rather than what it actually says? You really don't get the picture do you. miccles
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4:08pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

So, can't answer the question then?
So, can't answer the question then? Kadoogan
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4:15pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
So, can't answer the question then?
If it means that much to you.

When people pay a certain price for something, and the price goes up, and the new price is a reasonable rate increase, people to start to moan about the increase, because they have to pay more, and think they are hard done by, so there is an expression that says

Do people or you expect whatever for nothing?

Does that answer your question??????
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: So, can't answer the question then?[/p][/quote]If it means that much to you. When people pay a certain price for something, and the price goes up, and the new price is a reasonable rate increase, people to start to moan about the increase, because they have to pay more, and think they are hard done by, so there is an expression that says Do people or you expect whatever for nothing? Does that answer your question?????? miccles
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4:49pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Kadoogan says...

Can't say it makes much sense to me since no-one gave me the impression you seem to have taken from the story (possibly stems from the fact you think the rise is reasonable), but if it makes sense to you fair enough.

Thanks for finally explaining. Could have got to this point ages ago if you had just responded in such a hostile manner initially.

Apologies to anyone who read anything from the past few hours!
Can't say it makes much sense to me since no-one gave me the impression you seem to have taken from the story (possibly stems from the fact you think the rise is reasonable), but if it makes sense to you fair enough. Thanks for finally explaining. Could have got to this point ages ago if you had just responded in such a hostile manner initially. Apologies to anyone who read anything from the past few hours! Kadoogan
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4:56pm Mon 21 Jan 13

miccles says...

Kadoogan wrote:
Can't say it makes much sense to me since no-one gave me the impression you seem to have taken from the story (possibly stems from the fact you think the rise is reasonable), but if it makes sense to you fair enough.

Thanks for finally explaining. Could have got to this point ages ago if you had just responded in such a hostile manner initially.

Apologies to anyone who read anything from the past few hours!
ok, to be fair, maybe we were both at fault, yes i do think the price is reasonable, and as for the car parks, £6.50 is a reasonable price too.

2 multi-storey car parks in High Wycombe, charge £10.00 per day, 1 charges £5.00, so thats an extra £1.50 which is minimal really.
[quote][p][bold]Kadoogan[/bold] wrote: Can't say it makes much sense to me since no-one gave me the impression you seem to have taken from the story (possibly stems from the fact you think the rise is reasonable), but if it makes sense to you fair enough. Thanks for finally explaining. Could have got to this point ages ago if you had just responded in such a hostile manner initially. Apologies to anyone who read anything from the past few hours![/p][/quote]ok, to be fair, maybe we were both at fault, yes i do think the price is reasonable, and as for the car parks, £6.50 is a reasonable price too. 2 multi-storey car parks in High Wycombe, charge £10.00 per day, 1 charges £5.00, so thats an extra £1.50 which is minimal really. miccles
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5:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Flackwell says...

Personally think that the car park and rail fare need to be seen together - after all, the government et al preach all and sundry to go green and yet to practically little to assist that

surely subsidised and easier parking at rail/tube/bus terminals has got to be part of the answer ?
Personally think that the car park and rail fare need to be seen together - after all, the government et al preach all and sundry to go green and yet to practically little to assist that surely subsidised and easier parking at rail/tube/bus terminals has got to be part of the answer ? Flackwell
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5:34pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Voyeur says...

The numbers in the story don't seem to add up to me. The 3.8% increase comes to nearly £100 per month, so that's £1,200 extra per year. The cost now is shown as £2,840 per year, so it must have been £1,640 per year previously. That is not a 3.8% increase, is it?
The numbers in the story don't seem to add up to me. The 3.8% increase comes to nearly £100 per month, so that's £1,200 extra per year. The cost now is shown as £2,840 per year, so it must have been £1,640 per year previously. That is not a 3.8% increase, is it? Voyeur
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11:10pm Mon 21 Jan 13

gpn01 says...

Voyeur wrote:
The numbers in the story don't seem to add up to me. The 3.8% increase comes to nearly £100 per month, so that's £1,200 extra per year. The cost now is shown as £2,840 per year, so it must have been £1,640 per year previously. That is not a 3.8% increase, is it?
The numbers add up. It's just that you're reading them incorrectly... "Season tickets from Beaconsfield Station have gone up by about £100 this month, a rise of 3.8 per cent, meaning London commuters now have to fork out £2,840 per year." i.e. gone up by £100 THIS month NOT gone up by £100 PER month. £100/£2740 * 100 = 3.65%
[quote][p][bold]Voyeur[/bold] wrote: The numbers in the story don't seem to add up to me. The 3.8% increase comes to nearly £100 per month, so that's £1,200 extra per year. The cost now is shown as £2,840 per year, so it must have been £1,640 per year previously. That is not a 3.8% increase, is it?[/p][/quote]The numbers add up. It's just that you're reading them incorrectly... "Season tickets from Beaconsfield Station have gone up by about £100 this month, a rise of 3.8 per cent, meaning London commuters now have to fork out £2,840 per year." i.e. gone up by £100 THIS month NOT gone up by £100 PER month. £100/£2740 * 100 = 3.65% gpn01
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11:16pm Mon 21 Jan 13

buftonp13 says...

stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live. buftonp13
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9:11am Tue 22 Jan 13

miccles says...

buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
[quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough. miccles
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10:22am Tue 22 Jan 13

pennman says...

miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
[quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all. pennman
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10:42am Tue 22 Jan 13

miccles says...

pennman wrote:
miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
"I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!"

To be honest, i'm glad i do not live in Beaconsfield, because if they are all like you and Mr Pinto, i would be depressed with in a week of all the moaning. If you don't like the service, don't use it, drive to Amersham and get to london from there, there is always an answer, or go to High Wycombe, plenty of non-stop trains there.
[quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.[/p][/quote]"I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!" To be honest, i'm glad i do not live in Beaconsfield, because if they are all like you and Mr Pinto, i would be depressed with in a week of all the moaning. If you don't like the service, don't use it, drive to Amersham and get to london from there, there is always an answer, or go to High Wycombe, plenty of non-stop trains there. miccles
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10:43am Tue 22 Jan 13

demoness the second says...

pennman wrote:
miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well.
I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..
[quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.[/p][/quote]He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well. I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling.. demoness the second
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11:04am Tue 22 Jan 13

miccles says...

demoness the second wrote:
pennman wrote:
miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well.
I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..
and your comments are at who??????
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.[/p][/quote]He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well. I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..[/p][/quote]and your comments are at who?????? miccles
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11:09am Tue 22 Jan 13

demoness the second says...

miccles wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
pennman wrote:
miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well.
I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..
and your comments are at who??????
Button,Miccles - not you!!!
I have never seen anyone quite so angry at the teaching profession. I ( and others) have tried to engage in debate but he/she doesn't want to know and just comes out with more uninformed vitriol.
Which is a shame.
[quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.[/p][/quote]He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well. I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..[/p][/quote]and your comments are at who??????[/p][/quote]Button,Miccles - not you!!! I have never seen anyone quite so angry at the teaching profession. I ( and others) have tried to engage in debate but he/she doesn't want to know and just comes out with more uninformed vitriol. Which is a shame. demoness the second
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11:13am Tue 22 Jan 13

pennman says...

I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button?
I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button? pennman
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11:16am Tue 22 Jan 13

miccles says...

demoness the second wrote:
miccles wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
pennman wrote:
miccles wrote:
buftonp13 wrote:
stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.
Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.
Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield!
Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.
He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well.
I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..
and your comments are at who??????
Button,Miccles - not you!!!
I have never seen anyone quite so angry at the teaching profession. I ( and others) have tried to engage in debate but he/she doesn't want to know and just comes out with more uninformed vitriol.
Which is a shame.
you had me worried for a minute, thankyou.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miccles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buftonp13[/bold] wrote: stop your moaning, you people in Beaconsfield dont live in the real world if it was such an issue you would do what other people round the country would have to do and sell your over prissed homes and move somewhere cheaper. We all no that wont happen so stop making out like its such a problem as theres plenty other places to live.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, these folk should join forces with the moaners at Princes Risborough.[/p][/quote]Good spelling. I can see why you people don't live in Beaconsfield! Typical green-eyed monster belligerence from people not actually adding anything to the debate at all.[/p][/quote]He/she has a real vendetta against teachers as well. I am wondering the illiteracy is a reason for his/her belligerent trolling..[/p][/quote]and your comments are at who??????[/p][/quote]Button,Miccles - not you!!! I have never seen anyone quite so angry at the teaching profession. I ( and others) have tried to engage in debate but he/she doesn't want to know and just comes out with more uninformed vitriol. Which is a shame.[/p][/quote]you had me worried for a minute, thankyou. miccles
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11:21am Tue 22 Jan 13

demoness the second says...

pennman wrote:
I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button?
I love teachers on the whole - there are good ones and bad ones - but that is the same in every profession.
Button seems to hate teachers with a passion.
I have no idea what Miccles thinks! :)))
[quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button?[/p][/quote]I love teachers on the whole - there are good ones and bad ones - but that is the same in every profession. Button seems to hate teachers with a passion. I have no idea what Miccles thinks! :))) demoness the second
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11:35am Tue 22 Jan 13

miccles says...

demoness the second wrote:
pennman wrote:
I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button?
I love teachers on the whole - there are good ones and bad ones - but that is the same in every profession.
Button seems to hate teachers with a passion.
I have no idea what Miccles thinks! :)))
what about teachers???

They are ok, like you say there are good and bad ones, i sometimes think on sites like this, when, for instance they are on strike, or closed because of snow or for what any reason, some of them go over the top defending themselves on how hard they work, but generally at the end of the day, its a job, we all have to do one, and we could all say we work hard, but they are not that bad really.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pennman[/bold] wrote: I'm lost as to who doesn't like teachers! Is it Demoness who doesn't like teachers, or Miccles, or Button?[/p][/quote]I love teachers on the whole - there are good ones and bad ones - but that is the same in every profession. Button seems to hate teachers with a passion. I have no idea what Miccles thinks! :)))[/p][/quote]what about teachers??? They are ok, like you say there are good and bad ones, i sometimes think on sites like this, when, for instance they are on strike, or closed because of snow or for what any reason, some of them go over the top defending themselves on how hard they work, but generally at the end of the day, its a job, we all have to do one, and we could all say we work hard, but they are not that bad really. miccles
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2:16pm Tue 22 Jan 13

pennman says...

Perhaps Buttons doesn't like teachers because he didn't pay enough attention in class, hence the appalling spelling?

All this nonsence about 'over prissed' homes is a bit irrelevant when commenting upon the state of a railway line.
Perhaps Buttons doesn't like teachers because he didn't pay enough attention in class, hence the appalling spelling? All this nonsence about 'over prissed' homes is a bit irrelevant when commenting upon the state of a railway line. pennman
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