Dignitaries get into the carnival spirit at Wycombe's twin town

Dignitaries get into the carnival spirit at Wycombe's twin town

Dignitaries get into the carnival spirit at Wycombe's twin town

Dignitaries get into the carnival spirit at Wycombe's twin town

First published in News

DIGNITARIES got into the carnival spirit during a bond-building trip to High Wycombe’s twin town in Germany.

The Mayor of High Wycombe Cllr Chauhdry Shafique and Cllr Tony Green, chairman of the Twinning Association, led the party to Wycombe’s twin town of Kelkheim last week.

They discussed twinning activities and potential new schemes between the two towns during a summit meeting, including a new inter-town badminton tournament and a youth exchange programme.

The delegation visited Kelkheim Museum and also took in the sights and sounds of the tradition carnivals in Kelkheim - where they were presented with headwear reserved for special guests - and Frankfurt.

Mayor Shafique said: “It was wonderful; it is always a pleasure to visit Kelkheim and we were fortunate to visit during the carnival season.

“I went for the first time in September and we formed some strong bonds so it was nice to go back to see friends.

“The summit was very good, full of ideas about how we can grow and develop the relationship between the two towns.”

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4:53pm Sun 24 Feb 13

lady Ratz says...

What has this town twinning ever done for the people of Wycombe, , Fat zilch, Thats all that has been done. OH apart for all these freebie,s for high up council numptys, Have a nice break numptys on behalf of the tax payers of this town,,
What has this town twinning ever done for the people of Wycombe, , Fat zilch, Thats all that has been done. OH apart for all these freebie,s for high up council numptys, Have a nice break numptys on behalf of the tax payers of this town,, lady Ratz
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Sun 24 Feb 13

demoness the second says...

Are we supposed to be happy about this in a time when cuts to services are being made left, right and centre.
No wonder the public sector workers have such a bad name - deeply shaming and massive own goal guys.
Are we supposed to be happy about this in a time when cuts to services are being made left, right and centre. No wonder the public sector workers have such a bad name - deeply shaming and massive own goal guys. demoness the second
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Sun 24 Feb 13

lady Ratz says...

All this when the council are stopping care for the elderly, they cite cut backs are reason for this,,and yet they go off on there jollys,
All this when the council are stopping care for the elderly, they cite cut backs are reason for this,,and yet they go off on there jollys, lady Ratz
  • Score: 2

8:36pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Stand up for England says...

As public funds were used to finance this little junket, and being a tax paying member of the public ie they used my money; would someone in the council please tell me how much of MY money was spent. Also, if a visit was also made in September, as is indicated by the Mayor, other than making new friends, please advise just 3 quantitative things that have been achieved, and can be evaluated, since the September visit. I won't be holding my breath till the reply..
As public funds were used to finance this little junket, and being a tax paying member of the public ie they used my money; would someone in the council please tell me how much of MY money was spent. Also, if a visit was also made in September, as is indicated by the Mayor, other than making new friends, please advise just 3 quantitative things that have been achieved, and can be evaluated, since the September visit. I won't be holding my breath till the reply.. Stand up for England
  • Score: 3

8:55pm Sun 24 Feb 13

wayneo says...

Clown outfits, a highwayman and a gay sheriff outside are probably the appropriate costumes for this little junket. let's not also forget the amount of other junkets, paid for by those with a vested interest too. While the peasants eat stale bread, the lorded eat cake.
Clown outfits, a highwayman and a gay sheriff outside are probably the appropriate costumes for this little junket. let's not also forget the amount of other junkets, paid for by those with a vested interest too. While the peasants eat stale bread, the lorded eat cake. wayneo
  • Score: 4

9:15pm Sun 24 Feb 13

gotanybiscuits? says...

Can somebody remind me which of my outgoings is about to increase by 1.9%?
Not much of an increase.
I nearly didn't notice.
Nowhere near 2%.
That would have been outrageous.
.
Tact & diplomacy.
Qualities needed for politicians.
Not in this country.
Can somebody remind me which of my outgoings is about to increase by 1.9%? Not much of an increase. I nearly didn't notice. Nowhere near 2%. That would have been outrageous. . Tact & diplomacy. Qualities needed for politicians. Not in this country. gotanybiscuits?
  • Score: 2

9:45pm Sun 24 Feb 13

demoness the second says...

It really is obscene. That is the only word that I can think of to describe this.
It really is obscene. That is the only word that I can think of to describe this. demoness the second
  • Score: 3

1:22am Mon 25 Feb 13

J B Blackett says...

Poor show.
Poor show. J B Blackett
  • Score: 2

9:20am Mon 25 Feb 13

KTinBucks says...

Wrong spending priorities!

Stop this waste immediately.

Publish the total costs of the trip & the achievements & justify the value.
Wrong spending priorities! Stop this waste immediately. Publish the total costs of the trip & the achievements & justify the value. KTinBucks
  • Score: 2

12:00pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Community Spirit says...

Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then. Community Spirit
  • Score: -2

3:14pm Mon 25 Feb 13

J B Blackett says...

Community Spirit wrote:
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
The whole thing privately funded ? Well, you would say that , wouldn't you ?
We have learned (allegedly) through bitter experience to unquestionably accept every single word politicians and their pals say.
.
After all they are so honest , open , credible and trustworthy , it is said
[quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.[/p][/quote]The whole thing privately funded ? Well, you would say that , wouldn't you ? We have learned (allegedly) through bitter experience to unquestionably accept every single word politicians and their pals say. . After all they are so honest , open , credible and trustworthy , it is said J B Blackett
  • Score: 2

4:04pm Mon 25 Feb 13

lady Ratz says...

J B Blackett wrote:
Community Spirit wrote:
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
The whole thing privately funded ? Well, you would say that , wouldn't you ?
We have learned (allegedly) through bitter experience to unquestionably accept every single word politicians and their pals say.
.
After all they are so honest , open , credible and trustworthy , it is said
Let your members dig deep in there pockets and fund for care of our elderly. Oh sorry no jolly junkets ,
[quote][p][bold]J B Blackett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.[/p][/quote]The whole thing privately funded ? Well, you would say that , wouldn't you ? We have learned (allegedly) through bitter experience to unquestionably accept every single word politicians and their pals say. . After all they are so honest , open , credible and trustworthy , it is said[/p][/quote]Let your members dig deep in there pockets and fund for care of our elderly. Oh sorry no jolly junkets , lady Ratz
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4:40pm Mon 25 Feb 13

DACS12 says...

Twinning associations are about friendshio and cultural exchange. In the UK there is rarely any civic financial support although personal support from councillors is welcomed and encouraged. In Beaconsfield ,members and councillors pay for their own travel. Fund raising from social events pays for entertaining our guests when they visit and supporting young people who go on exchange visits. I value all the friendships that I have made from twining visits both in france and UK.
Twinning associations are about friendshio and cultural exchange. In the UK there is rarely any civic financial support although personal support from councillors is welcomed and encouraged. In Beaconsfield ,members and councillors pay for their own travel. Fund raising from social events pays for entertaining our guests when they visit and supporting young people who go on exchange visits. I value all the friendships that I have made from twining visits both in france and UK. DACS12
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4:46pm Mon 25 Feb 13

demoness the second says...

Community Spirit wrote:
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
So why are their activities not more widely advertised?
What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories?
Why has the council not made this clear?

It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years.
Perhaps now would be a good time eh?
[quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.[/p][/quote]So why are their activities not more widely advertised? What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories? Why has the council not made this clear? It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years. Perhaps now would be a good time eh? demoness the second
  • Score: 0

10:49am Tue 26 Feb 13

Community Spirit says...

demoness the second wrote:
Community Spirit wrote:
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
So why are their activities not more widely advertised?
What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories?
Why has the council not made this clear?

It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years.
Perhaps now would be a good time eh?
Twinning stories do get reported. They are invariably 'good news' stories, so don't make the headlines. But checkout
www.beaconsfieldtwin
ning.org for example and you'll see plenty of stories. Or the Bucks Free, they do their fair share of reporting. Like life, the people who actively participate get the most out of the experience. So, get involved and then you'll have the first hand experience to lend your comments weight.
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.[/p][/quote]So why are their activities not more widely advertised? What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories? Why has the council not made this clear? It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years. Perhaps now would be a good time eh?[/p][/quote]Twinning stories do get reported. They are invariably 'good news' stories, so don't make the headlines. But checkout www.beaconsfieldtwin ning.org for example and you'll see plenty of stories. Or the Bucks Free, they do their fair share of reporting. Like life, the people who actively participate get the most out of the experience. So, get involved and then you'll have the first hand experience to lend your comments weight. Community Spirit
  • Score: 0

11:38am Tue 26 Feb 13

demoness the second says...

Community Spirit wrote:
demoness the second wrote:
Community Spirit wrote:
Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.
So why are their activities not more widely advertised?
What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories?
Why has the council not made this clear?

It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years.
Perhaps now would be a good time eh?
Twinning stories do get reported. They are invariably 'good news' stories, so don't make the headlines. But checkout
www.beaconsfieldtwin

ning.org for example and you'll see plenty of stories. Or the Bucks Free, they do their fair share of reporting. Like life, the people who actively participate get the most out of the experience. So, get involved and then you'll have the first hand experience to lend your comments weight.
hmm - plenty of stories from the BFP.
A quick search using the word Kelkheim produced this...

http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/search/?
search=kelkheim

hardly current and impressive is it?

My comments lend weight because this is a democracy and I am questioning the use of councillors time - you have made it clear that it is not funded by tax payers money but nevertheless this seems a huge waste of their time.
So ... what does the twin town initiative do for the vulnerable of our community?
What projects is it involved with that demonstrates whole community cohesion?
What fund raising has it done that benefits the community of High Wycombe?
I think that it would be interesting to know - perhaps you could post some links that demonstrate this?
[quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, there seems to be an outpouring of poorly informed opinion here. As a member of Beaconsfield Twinning Association I can tell you that cultural, sporting, artistic and friendship exchanges are funded by the members of the Association and through fund raising. They are not paid for by the Council. If you've not been involved in an exchange you won't appreciate the value they create for individuals and the community. Join your local twinning association, get involved and then comment. You'll find your viewpoint a little different then.[/p][/quote]So why are their activities not more widely advertised? What value do they create exactly and why are there no stories? Why has the council not made this clear? It is only poorly informed opinion because no one has deigned to show or tell us otherwise over the years. Perhaps now would be a good time eh?[/p][/quote]Twinning stories do get reported. They are invariably 'good news' stories, so don't make the headlines. But checkout www.beaconsfieldtwin ning.org for example and you'll see plenty of stories. Or the Bucks Free, they do their fair share of reporting. Like life, the people who actively participate get the most out of the experience. So, get involved and then you'll have the first hand experience to lend your comments weight.[/p][/quote]hmm - plenty of stories from the BFP. A quick search using the word Kelkheim produced this... http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/search/? search=kelkheim hardly current and impressive is it? My comments lend weight because this is a democracy and I am questioning the use of councillors time - you have made it clear that it is not funded by tax payers money but nevertheless this seems a huge waste of their time. So ... what does the twin town initiative do for the vulnerable of our community? What projects is it involved with that demonstrates whole community cohesion? What fund raising has it done that benefits the community of High Wycombe? I think that it would be interesting to know - perhaps you could post some links that demonstrate this? demoness the second
  • Score: 1

12:35pm Tue 26 Feb 13

sai-diva says...

Personally, I'd prefer not to see my councilors dressed like this, partying in a distant country. I do not want people to think that this is represenative of my town. Also in times of severe austerity, it is kinda like rubbing the 'plebs' noses in it eh? Can't say as I've seen any benefit from this twinning, Maybe someone who was on this trip could list the percieved benefits for the town.
Personally, I'd prefer not to see my councilors dressed like this, partying in a distant country. I do not want people to think that this is represenative of my town. Also in times of severe austerity, it is kinda like rubbing the 'plebs' noses in it eh? Can't say as I've seen any benefit from this twinning, Maybe someone who was on this trip could list the percieved benefits for the town. sai-diva
  • Score: 1

12:42pm Tue 26 Feb 13

KTinBucks says...

Tony Green went on the junket.
Come on Tony, summarise what real-world, quantified benefits the High Wycombe residents can expect from your recent trip. What is our return on investment?
And when responding, can you confirm that the trip cost the the taxpayers nothing - as is claimed in this thread?
Tony Green went on the junket. Come on Tony, summarise what real-world, quantified benefits the High Wycombe residents can expect from your recent trip. What is our return on investment? And when responding, can you confirm that the trip cost the the taxpayers nothing - as is claimed in this thread? KTinBucks
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Community Spirit says...

I can't offer informed opinion on High Wycombe Twinning: I don't have any first hand experience. I can tell you how it works for Beaconsfield, and the big picture would be similar for most twinning organisations.
1. Volunteers run the Association, when and where councilors or the Mayor get involved they pay their way like everyone else.
2. Youth exchanges are a key part of the programme, and where financial assistance is required we contribute.
3. School get involved through projects which may only involve email or web based activities. So, travel is not always involved.
4. Friendship via cultural, artistic, sporting, music exchanges between twin towns also provides a great opportunity for people of all ages and interests to experience the benefits of 'home stay' exchanges and shared interests.
5. Twinning is about sharing between two communities - the scope is enormous, and the role of Twinning Associations is to facilitate and co-ordinate. And like so many things in life ... the more you give the more you get in return.
I can't offer informed opinion on High Wycombe Twinning: I don't have any first hand experience. I can tell you how it works for Beaconsfield, and the big picture would be similar for most twinning organisations. 1. Volunteers run the Association, when and where councilors or the Mayor get involved they pay their way like everyone else. 2. Youth exchanges are a key part of the programme, and where financial assistance is required we contribute. 3. School get involved through projects which may only involve email or web based activities. So, travel is not always involved. 4. Friendship via cultural, artistic, sporting, music exchanges between twin towns also provides a great opportunity for people of all ages and interests to experience the benefits of 'home stay' exchanges and shared interests. 5. Twinning is about sharing between two communities - the scope is enormous, and the role of Twinning Associations is to facilitate and co-ordinate. And like so many things in life ... the more you give the more you get in return. Community Spirit
  • Score: 0

8:22pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Voyeur says...

It appears the High Wycombe Town Twinning Association has its own website at

http://www.hwtta.org
.uk/index.html

I must say the emphasis does appear to be more on partying than any real benefits to the people of the town of High Wycombe. There is no list of aims or objectives of the association shown. There does not appear to be a youth exchange or anything like that. No meeting agenda. No meeting minutes. Although they do call the Carnival Party a "summit"!They are even looking at twinning with a town in France called Vernon. More jollies afoot.
It appears the High Wycombe Town Twinning Association has its own website at http://www.hwtta.org .uk/index.html I must say the emphasis does appear to be more on partying than any real benefits to the people of the town of High Wycombe. There is no list of aims or objectives of the association shown. There does not appear to be a youth exchange or anything like that. No meeting agenda. No meeting minutes. Although they do call the Carnival Party a "summit"!They are even looking at twinning with a town in France called Vernon. More jollies afoot. Voyeur
  • Score: 1

9:24pm Tue 26 Feb 13

demoness the second says...

Community Spirit wrote:
I can't offer informed opinion on High Wycombe Twinning: I don't have any first hand experience. I can tell you how it works for Beaconsfield, and the big picture would be similar for most twinning organisations.
1. Volunteers run the Association, when and where councilors or the Mayor get involved they pay their way like everyone else.
2. Youth exchanges are a key part of the programme, and where financial assistance is required we contribute.
3. School get involved through projects which may only involve email or web based activities. So, travel is not always involved.
4. Friendship via cultural, artistic, sporting, music exchanges between twin towns also provides a great opportunity for people of all ages and interests to experience the benefits of 'home stay' exchanges and shared interests.
5. Twinning is about sharing between two communities - the scope is enormous, and the role of Twinning Associations is to facilitate and co-ordinate. And like so many things in life ... the more you give the more you get in return.
I think we are all really moaning about the Wycombe twinning - if you guys in Beaconsfield are making it work then good on you :)
[quote][p][bold]Community Spirit[/bold] wrote: I can't offer informed opinion on High Wycombe Twinning: I don't have any first hand experience. I can tell you how it works for Beaconsfield, and the big picture would be similar for most twinning organisations. 1. Volunteers run the Association, when and where councilors or the Mayor get involved they pay their way like everyone else. 2. Youth exchanges are a key part of the programme, and where financial assistance is required we contribute. 3. School get involved through projects which may only involve email or web based activities. So, travel is not always involved. 4. Friendship via cultural, artistic, sporting, music exchanges between twin towns also provides a great opportunity for people of all ages and interests to experience the benefits of 'home stay' exchanges and shared interests. 5. Twinning is about sharing between two communities - the scope is enormous, and the role of Twinning Associations is to facilitate and co-ordinate. And like so many things in life ... the more you give the more you get in return.[/p][/quote]I think we are all really moaning about the Wycombe twinning - if you guys in Beaconsfield are making it work then good on you :) demoness the second
  • Score: 0

5:54pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Kris S says...

I used to run german french twinning exchanges for teenagers, quite a long time ago. There were also exchanges for the firebrigade, police and other organisations. But as mentioned earlier it is/was run by volunteers. It opens up possibilities of working abroad for example. The german french twinning association has been going for over 50 years now.
I might just get involved with the HW twinning association.
I used to run german french twinning exchanges for teenagers, quite a long time ago. There were also exchanges for the firebrigade, police and other organisations. But as mentioned earlier it is/was run by volunteers. It opens up possibilities of working abroad for example. The german french twinning association has been going for over 50 years now. I might just get involved with the HW twinning association. Kris S
  • Score: 0

5:55pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Kris S says...

Oh and by the way, you need to grow up with the carnival to under stand it.
Oh and by the way, you need to grow up with the carnival to under stand it. Kris S
  • Score: 0

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