No plans to give more council cash to HS2 campaigners

Bucks Free Press: Cllr Martin Tett speaks at an anti HS2 rally Cllr Martin Tett speaks at an anti HS2 rally

THE Leader of Buckinghamshire County Council has said he is not planning to give more money away to HS2 campaign groups.

Martin Tett said he would consider any applications for funding made to the council but is not planning to splash the cash.

Bucks County Council was one of many local authorities that contributed towards the cost of an appeal against the controversial project at the High Court.

But Cllr Tett said the council was now focusing on drawing up the 'Bucks Blueprint', a document which he said would set out "all the key issues in terms of mitigation in the county".

He said: "We will continue to campaign against it. A lot of focus is preparing mitigation."

Council money has previously been given to the Amersham-based HS2 Action Alliance as part of the fight against the scheme and Cllr Tett said: "If they asked us we'd consider it but I'm not proposing to give any more money. I'm very aware this is council tax payers' money we are spending. I think we've spent it wisely so far."

The HS2 Action Alliance announced recently they were considering taking an appeal against the government's failure to carry out an important environmental assessment to the European Court of Justice.

Cllr Tett said the group continued to have the full backing of the council but he was "not going to influence" their decision on whether to take the case to Europe.

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8:04am Tue 4 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

It seems that common sense has prevailed at last. The Lawyer magazine reported before Christmas that the government's costs had already exceeded £5M and the government were planning to persue the litigants for their share of costs if their Supreme Court action failed.

The Airports Commission have now announced an intention to consider a Heathrow Hub station on the GWML between Iver & West Drayton as part of their Heathrow third runway deliberations.

Perhaps Cllr Tett should get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest and stop persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy.
It seems that common sense has prevailed at last. The Lawyer magazine reported before Christmas that the government's costs had already exceeded £5M and the government were planning to persue the litigants for their share of costs if their Supreme Court action failed. The Airports Commission have now announced an intention to consider a Heathrow Hub station on the GWML between Iver & West Drayton as part of their Heathrow third runway deliberations. Perhaps Cllr Tett should get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest and stop persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy. Windsorian

9:02am Tue 4 Feb 14

South Heathen says...

Windsorian - Just read your comment and didn't understand any of it.

Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents.

Your comment that he should "get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest" is a bit strange and rather at odds with your declaration that he is, "persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy".

The government's national policy is in favour of HS2, it is the general public that are overwhelmingly against it.

Are you suggesting therefore that "common sense has prevailed" and he has now capitulated to protect his political career?

From your comment I cannot ascertain whether you are pro-HS2 or against it.
Windsorian - Just read your comment and didn't understand any of it. Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents. Your comment that he should "get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest" is a bit strange and rather at odds with your declaration that he is, "persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy". The government's national policy is in favour of HS2, it is the general public that are overwhelmingly against it. Are you suggesting therefore that "common sense has prevailed" and he has now capitulated to protect his political career? From your comment I cannot ascertain whether you are pro-HS2 or against it. South Heathen

10:47am Tue 4 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

@ South Heathen
Cllr Tett is the "Leader" of the Conservative Group running Buckinghamshire County Council (BCC). Yes he was elected to represent the electoral division of Little Chalfont & Amersham Common but has split responsibilities.

It is not Chalfont & Amersham Common alone that has been funding the BCC anti-HS2 camaign, it is all electoral wards and it is all Council Tax payers who will have to pick up the BCC share of the Government's costs.

Perhaps you should read the Supreme Court judgement which dismissed all anti-HS2 claims and told the litigants that they should take their case (if they have one) to Parliament and not the Courts.

And by what right do you have to falsely claim that "the general public are overwhelmingly against it" ? The government (all 3 main parties) included support for HSR in their 2010 General election Manefestos and were elected to run the country..

If you think the fruitcakes and closet racists (Cameron) from UKIP should be voted in beacause of their present anti-HS2 stance - then vote for them in 2015 !
@ South Heathen Cllr Tett is the "Leader" of the Conservative Group running Buckinghamshire County Council (BCC). Yes he was elected to represent the electoral division of Little Chalfont & Amersham Common but has split responsibilities. It is not Chalfont & Amersham Common alone that has been funding the BCC anti-HS2 camaign, it is all electoral wards and it is all Council Tax payers who will have to pick up the BCC share of the Government's costs. Perhaps you should read the Supreme Court judgement which dismissed all anti-HS2 claims and told the litigants that they should take their case (if they have one) to Parliament and not the Courts. And by what right do you have to falsely claim that "the general public are overwhelmingly against it" ? The government (all 3 main parties) included support for HSR in their 2010 General election Manefestos and were elected to run the country.. If you think the fruitcakes and closet racists (Cameron) from UKIP should be voted in beacause of their present anti-HS2 stance - then vote for them in 2015 ! Windsorian

11:13am Tue 4 Feb 14

gpn01 says...

Windsorian wrote:
@ South Heathen
Cllr Tett is the "Leader" of the Conservative Group running Buckinghamshire County Council (BCC). Yes he was elected to represent the electoral division of Little Chalfont & Amersham Common but has split responsibilities.

It is not Chalfont & Amersham Common alone that has been funding the BCC anti-HS2 camaign, it is all electoral wards and it is all Council Tax payers who will have to pick up the BCC share of the Government's costs.

Perhaps you should read the Supreme Court judgement which dismissed all anti-HS2 claims and told the litigants that they should take their case (if they have one) to Parliament and not the Courts.

And by what right do you have to falsely claim that "the general public are overwhelmingly against it" ? The government (all 3 main parties) included support for HSR in their 2010 General election Manefestos and were elected to run the country..

If you think the fruitcakes and closet racists (Cameron) from UKIP should be voted in beacause of their present anti-HS2 stance - then vote for them in 2015 !
The reality is that nobody knows whether the Public is in favour or not. All three parties showed support for HS2 in their last manifesto but that doesn't mean that the public supported the project - I suspect at the time they were voting for more fundamental manifesto issues (health care, education, social welfare to name a few). To claim otherwise is, at best, disingenious.

Putting HS2 to a national vote would be a great idea (seperate to an election), providing the facts are presented to the Public so that they could make an informed decision. Sadly, facts are few and far between!
[quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: @ South Heathen Cllr Tett is the "Leader" of the Conservative Group running Buckinghamshire County Council (BCC). Yes he was elected to represent the electoral division of Little Chalfont & Amersham Common but has split responsibilities. It is not Chalfont & Amersham Common alone that has been funding the BCC anti-HS2 camaign, it is all electoral wards and it is all Council Tax payers who will have to pick up the BCC share of the Government's costs. Perhaps you should read the Supreme Court judgement which dismissed all anti-HS2 claims and told the litigants that they should take their case (if they have one) to Parliament and not the Courts. And by what right do you have to falsely claim that "the general public are overwhelmingly against it" ? The government (all 3 main parties) included support for HSR in their 2010 General election Manefestos and were elected to run the country.. If you think the fruitcakes and closet racists (Cameron) from UKIP should be voted in beacause of their present anti-HS2 stance - then vote for them in 2015 ![/p][/quote]The reality is that nobody knows whether the Public is in favour or not. All three parties showed support for HS2 in their last manifesto but that doesn't mean that the public supported the project - I suspect at the time they were voting for more fundamental manifesto issues (health care, education, social welfare to name a few). To claim otherwise is, at best, disingenious. Putting HS2 to a national vote would be a great idea (seperate to an election), providing the facts are presented to the Public so that they could make an informed decision. Sadly, facts are few and far between! gpn01

11:26am Tue 4 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

@ gpn01

I could live with a national referendum - so long as it is national and not restricted to local areas. I'll think you will find most people either support or don't oppose the construction of HS2.

As a fall back UKIP are now opposed to HS2, though they first supported it; it seems an electoral ploy on their part to get an increased share of the vote. So why not just vote for them in 2015 ? After all they appear to be a party of disaffected Conservatives !
@ gpn01 I could live with a national referendum - so long as it is national and not restricted to local areas. I'll think you will find most people either support or don't oppose the construction of HS2. As a fall back UKIP are now opposed to HS2, though they first supported it; it seems an electoral ploy on their part to get an increased share of the vote. So why not just vote for them in 2015 ? After all they appear to be a party of disaffected Conservatives ! Windsorian

11:28am Tue 4 Feb 14

miccles says...

South Heathen wrote:
Windsorian - Just read your comment and didn't understand any of it.

Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents.

Your comment that he should "get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest" is a bit strange and rather at odds with your declaration that he is, "persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy".

The government's national policy is in favour of HS2, it is the general public that are overwhelmingly against it.

Are you suggesting therefore that "common sense has prevailed" and he has now capitulated to protect his political career?

From your comment I cannot ascertain whether you are pro-HS2 or against it.
Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents.

May I remind you Cllr Tett, also represents the people of Buckinghamshire, he doesn't have an obligation just to represent Chiltern residents. (1 for all, and all for 1).
I think what "Windsorian" wrote is perfectly correct, my personal opinion is the Tett should resign, as he has let this couny down enormously wasting taxpayers money, maybe you should get out of your bubble, and drive along this county's roads, they are disgusting to say the least, mainly because money has been given, but Tett, has spent it on other things, ie HS2, I'm not for HS2 either, what has put me off this council, and have lost all confidence in them, is they lie throught their teeth, HS2 is not in the Council Tax manifesto, therefore money should be raised to fight this, not stealing it from the taxpayers.
If Tett worked for a private company, would he squander all the money then??
[quote][p][bold]South Heathen[/bold] wrote: Windsorian - Just read your comment and didn't understand any of it. Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents. Your comment that he should "get into the real world and consider what's in Bucks residents real interest" is a bit strange and rather at odds with your declaration that he is, "persuing his political objectives concerning the elected government's national policy". The government's national policy is in favour of HS2, it is the general public that are overwhelmingly against it. Are you suggesting therefore that "common sense has prevailed" and he has now capitulated to protect his political career? From your comment I cannot ascertain whether you are pro-HS2 or against it.[/p][/quote]Councillor Tett represents a Chiltern Council and therefore has an obligation to support the wishes of Chiltern residents. May I remind you Cllr Tett, also represents the people of Buckinghamshire, he doesn't have an obligation just to represent Chiltern residents. (1 for all, and all for 1). I think what "Windsorian" wrote is perfectly correct, my personal opinion is the Tett should resign, as he has let this couny down enormously wasting taxpayers money, maybe you should get out of your bubble, and drive along this county's roads, they are disgusting to say the least, mainly because money has been given, but Tett, has spent it on other things, ie HS2, I'm not for HS2 either, what has put me off this council, and have lost all confidence in them, is they lie throught their teeth, HS2 is not in the Council Tax manifesto, therefore money should be raised to fight this, not stealing it from the taxpayers. If Tett worked for a private company, would he squander all the money then?? miccles

12:43pm Tue 4 Feb 14

gpn01 says...

Windsorian wrote:
@ gpn01

I could live with a national referendum - so long as it is national and not restricted to local areas. I'll think you will find most people either support or don't oppose the construction of HS2.

As a fall back UKIP are now opposed to HS2, though they first supported it; it seems an electoral ploy on their part to get an increased share of the vote. So why not just vote for them in 2015 ? After all they appear to be a party of disaffected Conservatives !
I suspect the "don't oppose" group would be larger than the pro- and anti- vote but that really depends upon how the proposal (and associated facts) are pitched. If, for example, they were asked "are you happy for us to charge you £3,000 for HS2?" then I suspect the number opposing would increase somewhat! Likewise, "would you prefer £50bn to be spent on HS2 or be used to build hospitals and schools?" would further strengthen the opposition to the project.
[quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: @ gpn01 I could live with a national referendum - so long as it is national and not restricted to local areas. I'll think you will find most people either support or don't oppose the construction of HS2. As a fall back UKIP are now opposed to HS2, though they first supported it; it seems an electoral ploy on their part to get an increased share of the vote. So why not just vote for them in 2015 ? After all they appear to be a party of disaffected Conservatives ![/p][/quote]I suspect the "don't oppose" group would be larger than the pro- and anti- vote but that really depends upon how the proposal (and associated facts) are pitched. If, for example, they were asked "are you happy for us to charge you £3,000 for HS2?" then I suspect the number opposing would increase somewhat! Likewise, "would you prefer £50bn to be spent on HS2 or be used to build hospitals and schools?" would further strengthen the opposition to the project. gpn01

1:22pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bartholomew HuckleBerry says...

Resurface all the roads of High Wycombe instead of lavishly spending on this failed campaign. From the beginning, it has been a poorly designed and even poorly fought battle by equally failed councillors and the so-called Chesham MP.
The government has rubber stamped the plans and soon will realise their catastrophic mistake about lack of funding and lack of will, once the project starts. The only sensible thing left to do by the WDC is to prepare plans so the HS2 can be accommodated into the overall infrastructure with minimal impact to the environment. The councillors must quit wasting the money on their botched campaign and repair the roads, because at this rate there will be no more roads left to get people to the train stations where HS2 will be operating from.
Resurface all the roads of High Wycombe instead of lavishly spending on this failed campaign. From the beginning, it has been a poorly designed and even poorly fought battle by equally failed councillors and the so-called Chesham MP. The government has rubber stamped the plans and soon will realise their catastrophic mistake about lack of funding and lack of will, once the project starts. The only sensible thing left to do by the WDC is to prepare plans so the HS2 can be accommodated into the overall infrastructure with minimal impact to the environment. The councillors must quit wasting the money on their botched campaign and repair the roads, because at this rate there will be no more roads left to get people to the train stations where HS2 will be operating from. Bartholomew HuckleBerry

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