Council sets aside £350,000 for Parliamentary HS2 fight

Bucks Free Press: Council set aside £350,000 for Parliamentary HS2 fight Council set aside £350,000 for Parliamentary HS2 fight

COUNCIL bosses are to spend up to £350,000 petitioning the government not to go ahead with HS2.

Members of Chiltern District Council's cabinet yesterday agreed to earmark the money from the authority's reserves to formally appeal to Parliament not to go ahead with the controversial project.

Some of the money is to be spent on getting expert advice on how best to mitigate the impact of any work that takes place in the district.

Council chief executive Alan Goodrum said the highest priorities are mitigating tunnelling issues, the noise created by building work and the visual impact of construction traffic.

He said: "We are going to need additional help, not just for staff hours, but expertise in issues such as tunnels. We are going to need a nationally recognised area of expertise if we go forward."

Cllr Isobel Darby said: "We are still hoping this will never come to fruition and certainly hoping people in Westminster might come to their senses and give this stupid plan up.

"This is our last chance - if it's built it's going to be there for generations. We owe it to the people who live here now and future generations to fight now to get the very best possible mitigation."

Leader Nick Rose added: "We have a duty to our community to do precisely that - we've built up reserves for a rainy day. If HS2 does go ahead - by God, it's not a rainy day, it's a deluge."

Chiltern District Council was one of the authorities that contributed funds towards an ultimately unsuccessful High Court challenge against HS2.

Cllr Rose said: "The legal process has come to an end. As far as a challenge is concerned, we are concerned with an entirely different process. It's reasonable to say whereas the legal process was an all or nothing challenge, we stand a very good prospect of achieving some crumbs of comfort with petitioning."

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1:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

gpn01 says...

It would be interesting to see how much additional cost is being incurred by local councils in mitigating the impact of HS2. This additional expenditure should then be factored in to work out the true financial cost of HS2.
It would be interesting to see how much additional cost is being incurred by local councils in mitigating the impact of HS2. This additional expenditure should then be factored in to work out the true financial cost of HS2. gpn01

3:08pm Wed 12 Feb 14

no1buzz says...

"We are still hoping this will never come to fruition and certainly hoping people in Westminster might come to their senses and give this stupid plan up.
I'm hoping people in the Council come to their senses and give this stupid plan up. Stop wasting our money!
"We are still hoping this will never come to fruition and certainly hoping people in Westminster might come to their senses and give this stupid plan up. I'm hoping people in the Council come to their senses and give this stupid plan up. Stop wasting our money! no1buzz

11:48am Thu 13 Feb 14

Scarletto says...

Why oh why should it cost so much to petition this?
Surely council's own legal dept and local MPs could help press this case again for almost nothing! Sounds like lots of our precious public money will once again go into the pockets of fat, wheezy lawyers in pinstripes!! Also especially to "consultants and experts" in local firms in our threatened communities. We live in a well heeled area with many experts who feel threatened and angry about this rail plan. Will they offer free help?
A case worth fighting - but why so much? Lawyers etc. will rejoice and plan bigger holidays and cars!
P.S. I think there's also a big red faced man down my local and my spouse who would do it for almost nothing. Always sounding off on a thousand and one subjects.
Why oh why should it cost so much to petition this? Surely council's own legal dept and local MPs could help press this case again for almost nothing! Sounds like lots of our precious public money will once again go into the pockets of fat, wheezy lawyers in pinstripes!! Also especially to "consultants and experts" in local firms in our threatened communities. We live in a well heeled area with many experts who feel threatened and angry about this rail plan. Will they offer free help? A case worth fighting - but why so much? Lawyers etc. will rejoice and plan bigger holidays and cars! P.S. I think there's also a big red faced man down my local and my spouse who would do it for almost nothing. Always sounding off on a thousand and one subjects. Scarletto

3:03am Fri 14 Feb 14

buftonp13 says...

Another huge waste of money. There is only a small percentage of the local area who actually oppose the HS2 line. I have not met anyone who is against it. Why waste such a huge amount of public money on this. The rich people in the areas which seem to be against it should be footing the bill, im sure they can afford it. The line may cost many many billons of pounds but where do you think that money goes, it doesn't just disappear like people think the Olympic money did. It pays a lot of peoples wages for a long time, it goes to companies for supplying matterials etc. In short it goes back to the communities, which is much needed in these hard times. We know the local posh rich people wont be working building the tracks with a shovel in their smooth hands but a lot of locals will be. Providing jobs for 20+ years for some!!!!!!
get it going ASAP we need the jobs
Another huge waste of money. There is only a small percentage of the local area who actually oppose the HS2 line. I have not met anyone who is against it. Why waste such a huge amount of public money on this. The rich people in the areas which seem to be against it should be footing the bill, im sure they can afford it. The line may cost many many billons of pounds but where do you think that money goes, it doesn't just disappear like people think the Olympic money did. It pays a lot of peoples wages for a long time, it goes to companies for supplying matterials etc. In short it goes back to the communities, which is much needed in these hard times. We know the local posh rich people wont be working building the tracks with a shovel in their smooth hands but a lot of locals will be. Providing jobs for 20+ years for some!!!!!! get it going ASAP we need the jobs buftonp13

7:20am Fri 14 Feb 14

gpn01 says...

Scarletto wrote:
Why oh why should it cost so much to petition this?
Surely council's own legal dept and local MPs could help press this case again for almost nothing! Sounds like lots of our precious public money will once again go into the pockets of fat, wheezy lawyers in pinstripes!! Also especially to "consultants and experts" in local firms in our threatened communities. We live in a well heeled area with many experts who feel threatened and angry about this rail plan. Will they offer free help?
A case worth fighting - but why so much? Lawyers etc. will rejoice and plan bigger holidays and cars!
P.S. I think there's also a big red faced man down my local and my spouse who would do it for almost nothing. Always sounding off on a thousand and one subjects.
I would hope that the Council's own legal team is pretty busy doing its normal work. If they were to then take on HS2 caseload then it means existing work would not get dealt with or the Council would have to call in the services of a legal firm anyway. In terms of cost vs value. I would hope you would understand that it's actually better value to pay more for a specialist in the field than less for someone who doesn't have the expertise..
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: Why oh why should it cost so much to petition this? Surely council's own legal dept and local MPs could help press this case again for almost nothing! Sounds like lots of our precious public money will once again go into the pockets of fat, wheezy lawyers in pinstripes!! Also especially to "consultants and experts" in local firms in our threatened communities. We live in a well heeled area with many experts who feel threatened and angry about this rail plan. Will they offer free help? A case worth fighting - but why so much? Lawyers etc. will rejoice and plan bigger holidays and cars! P.S. I think there's also a big red faced man down my local and my spouse who would do it for almost nothing. Always sounding off on a thousand and one subjects.[/p][/quote]I would hope that the Council's own legal team is pretty busy doing its normal work. If they were to then take on HS2 caseload then it means existing work would not get dealt with or the Council would have to call in the services of a legal firm anyway. In terms of cost vs value. I would hope you would understand that it's actually better value to pay more for a specialist in the field than less for someone who doesn't have the expertise.. gpn01

10:47am Fri 14 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.
I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties. Windsorian

11:27am Fri 14 Feb 14

gpn01 says...

Windsorian wrote:
I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.
That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins).
[quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.[/p][/quote]That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins). gpn01

11:34am Fri 14 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

gpn01 wrote:
Windsorian wrote:
I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.
That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins).
The anti HS2 brigade lost their Sumpeme Court case; any appeal to Europe will be extra.
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.[/p][/quote]That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins).[/p][/quote]The anti HS2 brigade lost their Sumpeme Court case; any appeal to Europe will be extra. Windsorian

11:37am Fri 14 Feb 14

Windsorian says...

gpn01 wrote:
Windsorian wrote:
I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.
That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins).
The anti HS2 brigade lost their Sumpeme Court case; any appeal to Europe will be extra.
[quote][p][bold]gpn01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Windsorian[/bold] wrote: I see in The Times today there is an article claiming Lawyers fees incurred by opposing HS2 have already reached £3.3M. Back in 27 September 2013 The Lawyer magazine was suggesting the eventual bill including consultants will be £5M. These costs are payable by the losing parties.[/p][/quote]That's incorrect. The costs (budgeted at £5m) include fees for planning, regulatory and environmental advice as well as litigation. It's only the litigation element that may be potentially recovered (and that depends who wins).[/p][/quote]The anti HS2 brigade lost their Sumpeme Court case; any appeal to Europe will be extra. Windsorian

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