Heard the one about the grass verge? Cllr blasts cutting 'madness'

Bucks Free Press: Heard the one about the grass verge? Cllr blasts cutting 'madness' Heard the one about the grass verge? Cllr blasts cutting 'madness'

IT could be a sketch from a bad comedy show but here is Councillor Brian Pearce wading through the different length of grass on a verge cut by three separate authorities.

The outskirts of this verge in Holmers Farm Way is nice and trim after it was recently cut back but the rest of it resembles an overgrown field.

That is because the verge is divided into segments and cut by the contractors of three different authorities - Wycombe District Council, Buckinghamshire County Council and Red Kite Community Housing.

Cllr Pearce said the "madness" would not look out of place in a Monty Python sketch and called on the authorities to get their acts together, as he believes scenarios like the Cressex verge could be replicated around the district.

He said: "It is complete madness - I have had more complaints about this than I ever did for the proposed Community Stadium for Wycombe Wanderers.

"It might seem trivial to some people but it looks disgusting, it is full of rubbish and it is harming the image of High Wycombe - particularly to those people who travel into the town to visit John Lewis, who would think it’s untidy.

"You would think the authorities would take it in turns to cut the whole verge or arrange it properly so the different segments get cut at the same time.

"But we have three authorities, probably with three different contractors, arriving on three separate occasions on different trucks to use three different pieces of machinery - it beggars belief, it should be in a Monty Python sketch."

WDC and BCC said discussions are ongoing to potentially devolve the responsibility of grass cutting to parish and town councils.

Wycombe District Council said it cuts the grass on land it owns 12 times a year.

But open spaces, such as the Library Gardens and Wycombe Cemetery, are cut more frequently and additional cutting may also take place ahead of public events, such as Higginson Park before the Marlow Town Regatta.

Transport for Buckinghamshire said its responsibility was to keep highways in a safe condition, which requires it to cut grass around junctions that could impair the vision of motorists.

It added: "As we have a duty to carry this out on all roads we are responsible for, we are sometimes unable to cut surrounding areas of grass that could delay us from attending other areas that may pose potential safety issues."

Red Kite said the grass on the verge was historically cut by the councils but it had "recently been alerted to the change in grass cutting practice."

It added: "As a result we have arranged for this work to be picked up through our contracts.

"This will ensure that the local residents continue to enjoy well maintained amenity areas to the standards that have been set by our customers.

"We will be reviewing other arrangements to ensure that they are not affected by any proposed changes."

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8:15am Fri 6 Jun 14

tom.marlow2 says...

I am really happy for councillor Pierce that he has nothing more important to get upset about.
I am really happy for councillor Pierce that he has nothing more important to get upset about. tom.marlow2
  • Score: -5

8:26am Fri 6 Jun 14

Hoddelli says...

Not just in Holmer's Farm is this a problem we have only just had our verges cut in Downley after about 3 months and only after we rung the council
Not just in Holmer's Farm is this a problem we have only just had our verges cut in Downley after about 3 months and only after we rung the council Hoddelli
  • Score: 3

10:21am Fri 6 Jun 14

Darren Hayday says...

It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP. Darren Hayday
  • Score: 11

10:27am Fri 6 Jun 14

dmarchant says...

No cutting at all so far this year in Loudwater and the grass on the verges is over 3 feet high in places. Some residents are fed up and have tried to control it themselves, but for others there is just too much to cut. It is also now blocking visibility at road junctions, Whinneys Road in particular. All very well dropping from 10 to 6 cuts per year, but can't they start at the same time of year and just spread them out more.
No cutting at all so far this year in Loudwater and the grass on the verges is over 3 feet high in places. Some residents are fed up and have tried to control it themselves, but for others there is just too much to cut. It is also now blocking visibility at road junctions, Whinneys Road in particular. All very well dropping from 10 to 6 cuts per year, but can't they start at the same time of year and just spread them out more. dmarchant
  • Score: 9

11:13am Fri 6 Jun 14

mistamina says...

tom.marlow2 wrote:
I am really happy for councillor Pierce that he has nothing more important to get upset about.
He is seeking publicity. And yes there are more serious matters wrong in WDC and Bucks.

We may soon need a Citizens Action Group - very successful on the Continent. Needs sane, socially equitable leadership, with no knee-jerk lurch to left, right and no self-aggrandizement. Certainly do not need horse faced charisma.
Do not think Bucks is ready for this.
[quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: I am really happy for councillor Pierce that he has nothing more important to get upset about.[/p][/quote]He is seeking publicity. And yes there are more serious matters wrong in WDC and Bucks. We may soon need a Citizens Action Group - very successful on the Continent. Needs sane, socially equitable leadership, with no knee-jerk lurch to left, right and no self-aggrandizement. Certainly do not need horse faced charisma. Do not think Bucks is ready for this. mistamina
  • Score: 3

2:13pm Fri 6 Jun 14

gungun says...

It worked as there are two teams (probably from different groups) cutting it now
It worked as there are two teams (probably from different groups) cutting it now gungun
  • Score: -2

5:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

s6blr says...

No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over.

Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass.

Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?
No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over. Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass. Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it? s6blr
  • Score: 4

6:06pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Kania 2000 says...

Darren Hayday wrote:
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
So what exactly do councillors do ??????
[quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.[/p][/quote]So what exactly do councillors do ?????? Kania 2000
  • Score: 4

7:40pm Fri 6 Jun 14

sparky49 says...

Red Kite have only just been alerted and historically verge cutting carried out by WDC.
Seems to me Red Kite have been tucked up by WDC. Is it possible they did not spot this in the transfer of the housing stock and WDC pulled a fast one.
Or maybe it is Tett and his loons at work.
Red Kite have only just been alerted and historically verge cutting carried out by WDC. Seems to me Red Kite have been tucked up by WDC. Is it possible they did not spot this in the transfer of the housing stock and WDC pulled a fast one. Or maybe it is Tett and his loons at work. sparky49
  • Score: 4

8:32pm Fri 6 Jun 14

tom.marlow2 says...

s6blr wrote:
No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over.

Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass.

Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?
Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents
[quote][p][bold]s6blr[/bold] wrote: No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over. Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass. Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?[/p][/quote]Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents tom.marlow2
  • Score: -1

9:57pm Fri 6 Jun 14

norm765 says...

Kania 2000 wrote:
Darren Hayday wrote:
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
So what exactly do councillors do ??????
Councillors are responsible for the performance of County and District councils. Maybe they should take responsibility for the performance of the councils.
[quote][p][bold]Kania 2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.[/p][/quote]So what exactly do councillors do ??????[/p][/quote]Councillors are responsible for the performance of County and District councils. Maybe they should take responsibility for the performance of the councils. norm765
  • Score: 5

10:20pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Emma179 says...

It really is one of the things that makes the town look visibly uncared for. We walked along the river in Marlow a few weeks ago and the nettles were so high, you couldn't see the river and I spent the whole time telling my kids to be careful. It's unsightly and will reduce its appeal to tourists.

The junction at the end of Clay Lane has only just been cut and it was severely reducing visibility on what is already a dangerous junction. They picked a bad year to cut back as well as the spring has been warm, so the grass is growing faster.
It really is one of the things that makes the town look visibly uncared for. We walked along the river in Marlow a few weeks ago and the nettles were so high, you couldn't see the river and I spent the whole time telling my kids to be careful. It's unsightly and will reduce its appeal to tourists. The junction at the end of Clay Lane has only just been cut and it was severely reducing visibility on what is already a dangerous junction. They picked a bad year to cut back as well as the spring has been warm, so the grass is growing faster. Emma179
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Sat 7 Jun 14

s6blr says...

tom.marlow2 wrote:
s6blr wrote:
No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over.

Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass.

Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?
Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents
Wrong Tom my boy.....

If you have to nose out your car 2 feet onto the roundabout, you will likely have said 2 feet removed in a roadside accident!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s6blr[/bold] wrote: No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over. Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass. Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?[/p][/quote]Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents[/p][/quote]Wrong Tom my boy..... If you have to nose out your car 2 feet onto the roundabout, you will likely have said 2 feet removed in a roadside accident!!!!! s6blr
  • Score: 2

10:31pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Mr Silent Majority says...

Darren Hayday wrote:
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
Nice to see Darren Hayday slagging off voters again for voting Conservative.
[quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.[/p][/quote]Nice to see Darren Hayday slagging off voters again for voting Conservative. Mr Silent Majority
  • Score: 1

10:36pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Mr Silent Majority says...

Darren Hayday wrote:
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
What has Darren Hayday done for the voters of West Wycombe, apart from repay their faith after they voted for an independent by joining the UKIP group as their group deputy leader.

Nice!
[quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.[/p][/quote]What has Darren Hayday done for the voters of West Wycombe, apart from repay their faith after they voted for an independent by joining the UKIP group as their group deputy leader. Nice! Mr Silent Majority
  • Score: 2

9:56am Sun 8 Jun 14

mistamina says...

Mr Silent Majority wrote:
Darren Hayday wrote:
It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.
What has Darren Hayday done for the voters of West Wycombe, apart from repay their faith after they voted for an independent by joining the UKIP group as their group deputy leader.

Nice!
REALLY DARREN??? You support UKIP's old-fashioned, lazy, populist borderline-racist mind-set?
I am disappointed beyond words; In a previous BFP blog we had such a sensible balanced debate on taking Bucks forward.

Sorry mate but you are the Bucks Political Trojan Horse.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Silent Majority[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren Hayday[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that it’s been turned into a comedy sketch by the BFP.. Brian does make a good point. When are we going to see 'joined' up intelligence services with the many different Councils that we have in and around Wycombe (Parish, Town Committees, District, County, Red Kite, etc) Hardly anyone can keep on top of what each are supposed to be responsible for doing what action. We need just a Town and a Unitary Council - simples.. However what we are stuck with instead is one Council cutting one area of grass and not co-ordinating with the other at the same time (potential to save thousands of pounds in the District/County) - but will the ruling Tories use common sense over using OUR taxpaying pounds? = NO - of course not.... Nothing ever changes because people still vote Tory here. Therefore nothing will change as they want all these Councils to keep all their loyal Cllrs in jobs and helping to prop up our beloved MP.[/p][/quote]What has Darren Hayday done for the voters of West Wycombe, apart from repay their faith after they voted for an independent by joining the UKIP group as their group deputy leader. Nice![/p][/quote]REALLY DARREN??? You support UKIP's old-fashioned, lazy, populist borderline-racist mind-set? I am disappointed beyond words; In a previous BFP blog we had such a sensible balanced debate on taking Bucks forward. Sorry mate but you are the Bucks Political Trojan Horse. mistamina
  • Score: 3

3:12pm Sun 8 Jun 14

tom.marlow2 says...

s6blr wrote:
tom.marlow2 wrote:
s6blr wrote:
No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over.

Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass.

Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?
Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents
Wrong Tom my boy.....

If you have to nose out your car 2 feet onto the roundabout, you will likely have said 2 feet removed in a roadside accident!!!!!
But you don't. You only have to actually stop on the lines.
[quote][p][bold]s6blr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tom.marlow2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s6blr[/bold] wrote: No one has showed up to cut the 4ft high grass on the roundabout coming out of Marlow at the A4155 Bourne End Road / A404 fly over. Driving east onto the roundabout with Marlow behind you is a death-defying lurch out as you cannot see anything for the grass. Multiple reports to Bcc, TFB, sweet F.A. has happened. Guess when a serious accident occurs sadly they'll all be blaming each other and finally cut it?[/p][/quote]Its not a problem if you slow down and take a look before entering the roundabout. By forcing people to do that it will probably prevent a few accidents[/p][/quote]Wrong Tom my boy..... If you have to nose out your car 2 feet onto the roundabout, you will likely have said 2 feet removed in a roadside accident!!!!![/p][/quote]But you don't. You only have to actually stop on the lines. tom.marlow2
  • Score: -1

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