Couple with young baby slam 'disrespectful' Marlow pavement parkers

Parking on Dean Street is becoming dangerous according to the couple

Parking on Dean Street is becoming dangerous according to the couple

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A COUPLE with a young baby say motorists should show more respect after being forced walk into a busy road because of cars parked on the pavement.

James and Lily Grant, of Berwick Road, Marlow, are annoyed at vehicles on Dean Street stopping with two wheels on the kerb, meaning they cannot pass with a pram.

And Mr Grant says they should not be forced to take their lives into their hands daily with their six month old daughter just to walk into town.

He said: "It’s a real problem. This is a busy road and I know people want to park outside their houses but they’ve got to consider other people.

"People in wheelchairs can’t get through either and shouldn't have to go into the road. Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought pavements were for pedestrians.

"Parking is a real problem in Marlow I know, so if people are being forced to park on pavements, the council should create some more residents parking at the other side of the road."

Mr Grant says the problem has been reported to police, and hopes enforcement will discourage drivers from leaving their car on the street.

However, Thames Valley Police say blocking pavements is not a criminal offence and the issue has been devolved to Bucks County Council.

But, Transport for Bucks, the council department in charge of roads, says its parking contractor can only issue tickets in areas without restrictions when a car is obstructing a dropped kerb or driveway.

And with no parking restrictions in place on the stretch of road, Mr and Mrs Grant would be forced to lobby the town council and their county councillor for the spot to be reassessed.

A town-wide parking review, commissioned over two years ago with the opening of Sainsbury’s on West Street, has still not been completed.

The Bucks County Council study is awaiting data from the Automatic Number Plate Recognition System, being rolled out in Wycombe District Council’s car parks this summer.

It is hoped the long-awaited review will address the problem on the town’s streets, where residents are calling for permits to guarantee spaces near their homes.

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5:53pm Mon 28 Jul 14

crob says...

I totally agree - pavements are for people!
I totally agree - pavements are for people! crob
  • Score: 41

7:12pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Username* says...

This is news? I moved to Wycombe 14 years with an 8 month old and it was happening then! WDC sort yourselves out.
This is news? I moved to Wycombe 14 years with an 8 month old and it was happening then! WDC sort yourselves out. Username*
  • Score: 17

7:24pm Mon 28 Jul 14

retchub says...

strange??? when i parked on a path in roundwood road a couple of years ago i got a parking ticket, when i questioned it was told the path was part of the highway !!!!!
strange??? when i parked on a path in roundwood road a couple of years ago i got a parking ticket, when i questioned it was told the path was part of the highway !!!!! retchub
  • Score: 15

7:30pm Mon 28 Jul 14

erm says...

totally agree, happens in Hazlemere and Tylers Green, no regard for anyone. Should all be given a ticket
totally agree, happens in Hazlemere and Tylers Green, no regard for anyone. Should all be given a ticket erm
  • Score: 20

8:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Good Life says...

Went to one these Police (PCSO) have your say meetings a little while ago and mentioned pavement obstruction amongst other things only to be told surprisingly it was not an offence to place two wheels on the pavement as long as you can still get by but if it is completely blocked then it is obstruction but try getting it dealt with could be difficult unless it is persistent offender.
Went to one these Police (PCSO) have your say meetings a little while ago and mentioned pavement obstruction amongst other things only to be told surprisingly it was not an offence to place two wheels on the pavement as long as you can still get by but if it is completely blocked then it is obstruction but try getting it dealt with could be difficult unless it is persistent offender. Good Life
  • Score: 13

8:30pm Mon 28 Jul 14

MarlowBelle says...

http://www.livingstr
eets.org.uk/make-a-c
hange/urgent-actions
/pavement-parking
You might find some useful information here. Pavement parking is an ongoing problem all over the country. Living Streets have some great advice and materials to help you combat it in your local area.
Good luck.
http://www.livingstr eets.org.uk/make-a-c hange/urgent-actions /pavement-parking You might find some useful information here. Pavement parking is an ongoing problem all over the country. Living Streets have some great advice and materials to help you combat it in your local area. Good luck. MarlowBelle
  • Score: 3

9:58am Tue 29 Jul 14

bucksinfo says...

A few things to point out about the parking issue in Dean street.

1. It is a police matter and I have recently witnessed cars being towed of this stretch of road if there is not enough space for a pram to get through.

2. This issue is made worse by Sainsbury's workers parking along this stretch of road during there shift surely a company of this size should be providing a place for employees to park.

3. I know of several requests to covert gardens to driveways along this stretch denied by council.

4.Changing the charging time for cars to park in the public car park at bottom of street from 7 to 7 to 9 to 5 would allow more freedom for residents to park in a safer location without cost.

5.A Zebra crossing placed further up the road would allow a safe route to the larger path way on the other side of the road.
A few things to point out about the parking issue in Dean street. 1. It is a police matter and I have recently witnessed cars being towed of this stretch of road if there is not enough space for a pram to get through. 2. This issue is made worse by Sainsbury's workers parking along this stretch of road during there shift surely a company of this size should be providing a place for employees to park. 3. I know of several requests to covert gardens to driveways along this stretch denied by council. 4.Changing the charging time for cars to park in the public car park at bottom of street from 7 to 7 to 9 to 5 would allow more freedom for residents to park in a safer location without cost. 5.A Zebra crossing placed further up the road would allow a safe route to the larger path way on the other side of the road. bucksinfo
  • Score: 9

10:04am Tue 29 Jul 14

Ivor'sbestfriend says...

I definitely wouldn't advise keying the cars of persistent offenders . . .
I definitely wouldn't advise keying the cars of persistent offenders . . . Ivor'sbestfriend
  • Score: 5

10:16am Tue 29 Jul 14

CatherineAB says...

I have had the same issue with my trolley, so I am sympathetic to this young couple's complaint.
I have also noted that people often will not park in their drives, but prefer to leave their cars in the road, which is lazy, thoughtless and stupid.
Nothing to do with this much-overused word, "respect." The term should be consideration for our fellows. Just think beyond ourselves.
I have had the same issue with my trolley, so I am sympathetic to this young couple's complaint. I have also noted that people often will not park in their drives, but prefer to leave their cars in the road, which is lazy, thoughtless and stupid. Nothing to do with this much-overused word, "respect." The term should be consideration for our fellows. Just think beyond ourselves. CatherineAB
  • Score: 4

10:21am Tue 29 Jul 14

bucksinfo says...

One more point to add and i am not justifying bad parking just wanted to know. If you are that concerned for your child's safety. Surely you would just take the safer service road just behind shielding them from the traffic.
Or do you just like to be in the papers?
One more point to add and i am not justifying bad parking just wanted to know. If you are that concerned for your child's safety. Surely you would just take the safer service road just behind shielding them from the traffic. Or do you just like to be in the papers? bucksinfo
  • Score: -13

10:27am Tue 29 Jul 14

I Love Ivor says...

It always used to be an offence, I remember many years ago police ticketing cars if you could not get a pram past them on the pavement and they were causing an obstruction.
It always used to be an offence, I remember many years ago police ticketing cars if you could not get a pram past them on the pavement and they were causing an obstruction. I Love Ivor
  • Score: 8

11:13am Tue 29 Jul 14

boups1984@hotmail.com says...

Is this really news? I park on this road because I have to as parking is very limited around here, and I also have a baby and use a pushchair!! The drivers are all very considerate and don't park right over the pavements. But they also can't park on the road as that will cause traffic, backlogs and maybe even accidents. So either way myself and the other residents of that road can't win. Either we get our cars hit or people moaning about them parking their cars on the pavement. And there also is the other side of the road, which has a pretty big pavement. I'm sorry but I'm not sympathetic to this, as it's not a major problem and others deal with it. I'll probably get a barrage of a abuse for this now..!
Is this really news? I park on this road because I have to as parking is very limited around here, and I also have a baby and use a pushchair!! The drivers are all very considerate and don't park right over the pavements. But they also can't park on the road as that will cause traffic, backlogs and maybe even accidents. So either way myself and the other residents of that road can't win. Either we get our cars hit or people moaning about them parking their cars on the pavement. And there also is the other side of the road, which has a pretty big pavement. I'm sorry but I'm not sympathetic to this, as it's not a major problem and others deal with it. I'll probably get a barrage of a abuse for this now..! boups1984@hotmail.com
  • Score: 3

12:53pm Tue 29 Jul 14

chepping100 says...

Pig ignorant parking is a problem.
Pig ignorant parking is a problem. chepping100
  • Score: 7

1:03pm Tue 29 Jul 14

chepping100 says...

Thames Valley Police say the issue has been devolved to Bucks County Council.

This is the reason for the problem: The police can’t be bothered and have palmed it off to the council who are just as lazy, so nothing gets done and the situation worsens as the pig ignorant parkers know nothing will be done.

Pig ignorant parking and Pig ignorant public servants go hand-in-hand.
Thames Valley Police say the issue has been devolved to Bucks County Council. This is the reason for the problem: The police can’t be bothered and have palmed it off to the council who are just as lazy, so nothing gets done and the situation worsens as the pig ignorant parkers know nothing will be done. Pig ignorant parking and Pig ignorant public servants go hand-in-hand. chepping100
  • Score: 6

5:25pm Tue 29 Jul 14

s6blr says...

TVP are spineless wimps when it suits them and psycho-attack dogs at other times. 2 years ago a PCSO came up Marlow Bottom banging on doors demanding cars moved off pavement or he would be ticketing cars.

In Marlow Bottom -- FFS?

What they should do to a number of the core roads in Marlow center is to double-yellow stripe one side, and make the other side resident only parking. Then offer a park -n-n ride like other mature towns do.

Oh wait, I must be hallucinating again, the WDC drugs are wearing off!
TVP are spineless wimps when it suits them and psycho-attack dogs at other times. 2 years ago a PCSO came up Marlow Bottom banging on doors demanding cars moved off pavement or he would be ticketing cars. In Marlow Bottom -- FFS? What they should do to a number of the core roads in Marlow center is to double-yellow stripe one side, and make the other side resident only parking. Then offer a park -n-n ride like other mature towns do. Oh wait, I must be hallucinating again, the WDC drugs are wearing off! s6blr
  • Score: 4

6:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Chepping says...

I’ve had an excellent response by contacting my local Neighbourhood Police Team in the Green Hill area of High Wycombe. We all have to rub along together using the same limited space but when vehicles leave less than the width a wheelchair needs or denies the pavement to the blind with guide dogs then rightly we should expect some support from the police. It’s up to all of us to stand up for the needs of those who need that space, to ensure they are safe as they use the pavement, parents with children to protect need the same concern shown to them.

I found that by visiting the Thames Valley Police website, entering my postcode to establish which team to contact and then by asking them to take a look, was extremely effective. They acted promptly and efficiently. The officers were active in simply reminding drivers of THEIR responsibilities to the community they live in. Drivers mostly responded well, but any pedestrian will tell you that eventually the problem returns and needs fixing again! I hope that all areas are policed with the same common sense, if we’re reasonable ourselves then a look at the problem is what we should expect from the police, I got that.
I’ve had an excellent response by contacting my local Neighbourhood Police Team in the Green Hill area of High Wycombe. We all have to rub along together using the same limited space but when vehicles leave less than the width a wheelchair needs or denies the pavement to the blind with guide dogs then rightly we should expect some support from the police. It’s up to all of us to stand up for the needs of those who need that space, to ensure they are safe as they use the pavement, parents with children to protect need the same concern shown to them. I found that by visiting the Thames Valley Police website, entering my postcode to establish which team to contact and then by asking them to take a look, was extremely effective. They acted promptly and efficiently. The officers were active in simply reminding drivers of THEIR responsibilities to the community they live in. Drivers mostly responded well, but any pedestrian will tell you that eventually the problem returns and needs fixing again! I hope that all areas are policed with the same common sense, if we’re reasonable ourselves then a look at the problem is what we should expect from the police, I got that. Chepping
  • Score: 6

9:17am Wed 30 Jul 14

Bookish says...

I have a child in a buggy and I do park on pavements but not so as to totally obstruct the path. It is inconsiderate and so frustrating when you can't get your buggy down a pathway. Why would you need to shield your child from traffic if they are in a buggy?
I have a child in a buggy and I do park on pavements but not so as to totally obstruct the path. It is inconsiderate and so frustrating when you can't get your buggy down a pathway. Why would you need to shield your child from traffic if they are in a buggy? Bookish
  • Score: -8

9:26pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Lividov says...

It is illegal to drive on the pavement so to be in a parked position would imply that that a crime has been committed. I think the problem is an education one - people who park on the pavement are ignorant, lazy, and/or selfish and probably don't mind being called it. I bet they all shout at cyclists too.
It is illegal to drive on the pavement so to be in a parked position would imply that that a crime has been committed. I think the problem is an education one - people who park on the pavement are ignorant, lazy, and/or selfish and probably don't mind being called it. I bet they all shout at cyclists too. Lividov
  • Score: 1

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