New study into impact of Wycombe A&E closure agreed

New study into impact of Wycombe A&E closure agreed

New study into impact of Wycombe A&E closure agreed

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A NEW study into urgent healthcare in High Wycombe will go ahead after a unanimous call to drill deeper into the effect of hospital changes on residents.

Wycombe District Councillors sitting on Bucks County Council’s Health and Adult Social Care Select Committee (HASCSC) are unhappy over the extent of a recent report into urgent care in the county.

The four committee members representing wards in the Wycombe District voted against approving the report, which was set up in the wake of the Government’s Keogh review of hospital services.

Cllr Tony Green and his colleagues claim more needs to be done to hear from residents in the Wycombe area before any comprehensive countywide report can be completed.

And last night WDC voted unanimously to launch a separate probe to understand the full effects of changes at Wycombe Hospital, including the closure of the Accident and Emergency department in 2011.

Cabinet member Cllr Green said he recently made use of the  Minor Illness and Incident Unit (MIIU) at Wycombe and was impressed at the speed and efficiency of the system.

And proposing the WDC study, he said it was vital to improve people’s awareness of the MIIU, which he claims many residents are simply not aware of.

He said: "I am pleased to be one of this council’s representatives on the Health and Adult Social Care Select Committee looking into urgent healthcare in the county.

"However, the investigation did not go far enough and now this council should do further work itself.

"We have a minor incident unit in Wycombe, but most people go to Stoke (Mandeville) when they may be able to receive treatment in Wycombe. No work has been done to see how many of these cases at Stoke Mandeville could have been successfully treated at Wycombe.

"The people of Wycombe deserve a care system they understand. We have a system that could care for many of our residents but it is hidden and people do not know it is there."

In addition to the WDC probe, Wycombe MP Steve Baker has commissioned a study exploring the possibility of bringing more key services together under one roof at Wycombe Hospital (see this week's BFP for a full report).

WDC’s own study is expected to feature a ‘public listening event’ in the district to gather residents’ views and experiences of A&E in the county and also at MIIU.

Cllr Jean Teesdale, who also sits on the county healthcare committee, said members want to hear from as many people as possible to help feed their experiences back to county level.

As part of the probe, evidence will also be gathered on transport between Wycombe and Stoke Mandeville and the realities facing frail or elderly people in accessing services.

Last year, a 16,500-strong petition from Wycombe Liberal Democrats, spearheaded by Cllr Julia Wassall,  called for action over A&E services and helped spark a review from the county council body responsible for overseeing healthcare.

But Cllr Wassall said the report wasn't detailed enough and needed an input from patients using hospitals in the county - particularly those in the Wycombe area - after Accident and Emergency services were axed from Wycombe Hospital in 2011.

However, HASCSC chairman Lin Hazell said the inquiry found care services to be "designed in the interest of better outcomes for all residents and tailored to the needs of the Buckinghamshire population."

Wycombe MIIU can deal with cuts and bruises, sprains and strains, bites and sting, scalds and minor burns and suspected fractures, among other minor injuries.

However, seriously ill or injured children should be taken straight to the nearest A&E ward - Stoke Mandeville or Wexham Park - along with serious head injuries or loss of consciousness.

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1:44pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it!
It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it! Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: 20

2:31pm Tue 29 Jul 14

SaveWycombeHospital says...

Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it!
Plans can be changed, let's change them together
[quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it![/p][/quote]Plans can be changed, let's change them together SaveWycombeHospital
  • Score: 23

2:33pm Tue 29 Jul 14

SaveWycombeHospital says...

Please sign the latest petition lovely people: https://you.38degree
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Thank you :)
Please sign the latest petition lovely people: https://you.38degree s.org.uk/petitions/f air-funding-for-buck inghamshire Thank you :) SaveWycombeHospital
  • Score: 11

3:18pm Tue 29 Jul 14

stevet123 says...

Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it!
Do not be negative, things can be turned around, we need our A & E in High Wycombe, how think ( thick ) tanks see Stoke Manderville to be easy reaching for M40 and A40 and residents of High wycombe, is beggars belief
[quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it![/p][/quote]Do not be negative, things can be turned around, we need our A & E in High Wycombe, how think ( thick ) tanks see Stoke Manderville to be easy reaching for M40 and A40 and residents of High wycombe, is beggars belief stevet123
  • Score: 16

5:21pm Tue 29 Jul 14

s6blr says...

Wycombe A&E saved my life. Had I had to endure 25 mins to Wrexham or 40 mins to Aylesbury I would be dead.

How out many out there have stories just like me -- THOUSANDS....!
Wycombe A&E saved my life. Had I had to endure 25 mins to Wrexham or 40 mins to Aylesbury I would be dead. How out many out there have stories just like me -- THOUSANDS....! s6blr
  • Score: 11

9:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

valleyviewboy says...

Just a little lesson in demographics for the people in power... High Wycombe is BIGGER than Aylesbury, by a margin of 60,000! If you told a stranger that the smaller had the A&E and that folks from the larger had to go to the smaller, some 15 miles away along single carriageway roads, they'd say you were pulling their leg. But that's what we have to deal with.

I've visited the Minor Injuries Centre twice in the past few months, accompanying family. What were we told both times? "Oh we can't help, probably best go to Stoke Mandeville". When you've banged your head and worried you might have concussion you'll do that, just hoping there haven't been any jams in Princes Risborough which must be negotiated on the way to Bucks HQ.

If they're so insistent on Aylesbury being the hospital capital of Bucks then the only alternative must be a great improvement to the local road network. The A4010 has essentially existed in its current form since it was given the number in 1922, it's capped at 50 max, and not conducive to a speedy journey when your son's just broken his ankle. Alas it might be a green shiny primary A road, but it's not the north-south link Bucks needs if we in Wycombe are to be so reliant on Aylesbury.

So maybe allow that larger of the town towns to have an accident and emergency unit again? For the sake of common sense? Either that or build the A4010 (M).
Just a little lesson in demographics for the people in power... High Wycombe is BIGGER than Aylesbury, by a margin of 60,000! If you told a stranger that the smaller had the A&E and that folks from the larger had to go to the smaller, some 15 miles away along single carriageway roads, they'd say you were pulling their leg. But that's what we have to deal with. I've visited the Minor Injuries Centre twice in the past few months, accompanying family. What were we told both times? "Oh we can't help, probably best go to Stoke Mandeville". When you've banged your head and worried you might have concussion you'll do that, just hoping there haven't been any jams in Princes Risborough which must be negotiated on the way to Bucks HQ. If they're so insistent on Aylesbury being the hospital capital of Bucks then the only alternative must be a great improvement to the local road network. The A4010 has essentially existed in its current form since it was given the number in 1922, it's capped at 50 max, and not conducive to a speedy journey when your son's just broken his ankle. Alas it might be a green shiny primary A road, but it's not the north-south link Bucks needs if we in Wycombe are to be so reliant on Aylesbury. So maybe allow that larger of the town towns to have an accident and emergency unit again? For the sake of common sense? Either that or build the A4010 (M). valleyviewboy
  • Score: 20

10:41pm Tue 29 Jul 14

demoness the second says...

Where is the money going to come from?
As much as we would like an A/E in every large town, sadly this and previous governments do not.
Many towns have lost their A/Es - many towns have lost their hospitals.
It is a shameful situation and I do not see how Wycombe is ever going to get the facility back because there is no money.
Where is the money going to come from? As much as we would like an A/E in every large town, sadly this and previous governments do not. Many towns have lost their A/Es - many towns have lost their hospitals. It is a shameful situation and I do not see how Wycombe is ever going to get the facility back because there is no money. demoness the second
  • Score: -1

11:30am Wed 30 Jul 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

demoness the second wrote:
Where is the money going to come from?
As much as we would like an A/E in every large town, sadly this and previous governments do not.
Many towns have lost their A/Es - many towns have lost their hospitals.
It is a shameful situation and I do not see how Wycombe is ever going to get the facility back because there is no money.
Whilst I agree with you about the money... I think a working Minor Injuries Unit is achievable.
Along with many others I've tried to use this facility only to then get a taxi to Stoke... (myself... for a cut on the sole of my foot!)
Somebody will have to take better stock of what a minor injury really is, rather than worry about getting sued. Perhaps if the culture of suing the NHS for minor matters should be stopped, about time the NHS was stopped being bled dry.

Anyway back to MIU... If they can't deal with cuts and sprains what are they there for?
[quote][p][bold]demoness the second[/bold] wrote: Where is the money going to come from? As much as we would like an A/E in every large town, sadly this and previous governments do not. Many towns have lost their A/Es - many towns have lost their hospitals. It is a shameful situation and I do not see how Wycombe is ever going to get the facility back because there is no money.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with you about the money... I think a working Minor Injuries Unit is achievable. Along with many others I've tried to use this facility only to then get a taxi to Stoke... (myself... for a cut on the sole of my foot!) Somebody will have to take better stock of what a minor injury really is, rather than worry about getting sued. Perhaps if the culture of suing the NHS for minor matters should be stopped, about time the NHS was stopped being bled dry. Anyway back to MIU... If they can't deal with cuts and sprains what are they there for? Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: -2

3:01pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mr Totterdge Hill says...

SaveWycombeHospital wrote:
Mr Totterdge Hill wrote:
It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it!
Plans can be changed, let's change them together
Been there done that...
I'm all for A&E in Wycombe but the powers that be made up their minds ages ago... I've been in Wycombe for 30 years and things are on a downhill slide.
[quote][p][bold]SaveWycombeHospital[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Totterdge Hill[/bold] wrote: It's too late... they've already made up plans for the next 10 years and A&E in High Wycombe ain't on it![/p][/quote]Plans can be changed, let's change them together[/p][/quote]Been there done that... I'm all for A&E in Wycombe but the powers that be made up their minds ages ago... I've been in Wycombe for 30 years and things are on a downhill slide. Mr Totterdge Hill
  • Score: 6

3:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Scarletto says...

A new petition and glimmer of hope for a better A&E dept in Wycombe. One of the best morsels of news for a while though I sadly suspect it will lead nowhere. Some credit must go to Julia Wassell and Daniel Hayday who organised protests a year or two ago.
The closure of the A&E in Wycombe was one of the worst blows for years here - with risks of lives lost or at least extra suffering by many people having to go to S. Mandeville.
A new petition and glimmer of hope for a better A&E dept in Wycombe. One of the best morsels of news for a while though I sadly suspect it will lead nowhere. Some credit must go to Julia Wassell and Daniel Hayday who organised protests a year or two ago. The closure of the A&E in Wycombe was one of the worst blows for years here - with risks of lives lost or at least extra suffering by many people having to go to S. Mandeville. Scarletto
  • Score: -15

9:07pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Shropshireexcile says...

It does seem ridiculous that I came to university in a town with no A&E within a 15 mile radius, especially given the speed that the student population has grown over the last few years, as well as the towns population, given the pure amount of houses that are being built in the area.

Guess it would be to much trouble to ask the companies building said houses to contribute towards improvements at either Wycombe hospital or the road system between the two towns
It does seem ridiculous that I came to university in a town with no A&E within a 15 mile radius, especially given the speed that the student population has grown over the last few years, as well as the towns population, given the pure amount of houses that are being built in the area. Guess it would be to much trouble to ask the companies building said houses to contribute towards improvements at either Wycombe hospital or the road system between the two towns Shropshireexcile
  • Score: 6

10:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

DawesJack says...

Scarletto wrote:
A new petition and glimmer of hope for a better A&E dept in Wycombe. One of the best morsels of news for a while though I sadly suspect it will lead nowhere. Some credit must go to Julia Wassell and Daniel Hayday who organised protests a year or two ago. The closure of the A&E in Wycombe was one of the worst blows for years here - with risks of lives lost or at least extra suffering by many people having to go to S. Mandeville.
We need to persuade politicians that A and E is needed in District hospitals with a catchment area of fewer than 500,000. The Wycombe hospital population is half that. The College of Emergency Medecine representing A/E doctors says 500.000.
Labour brought in this centralisation of services and Lib Dems and Tories in government have done nothing to change it. Julia and Darren can work as hard as they like on petitions, it was ignored originally when there were 40,000 names on a petition. It is all political posturing now, to placate the public.
[quote][p][bold]Scarletto[/bold] wrote: A new petition and glimmer of hope for a better A&E dept in Wycombe. One of the best morsels of news for a while though I sadly suspect it will lead nowhere. Some credit must go to Julia Wassell and Daniel Hayday who organised protests a year or two ago. The closure of the A&E in Wycombe was one of the worst blows for years here - with risks of lives lost or at least extra suffering by many people having to go to S. Mandeville.[/p][/quote]We need to persuade politicians that A and E is needed in District hospitals with a catchment area of fewer than 500,000. The Wycombe hospital population is half that. The College of Emergency Medecine representing A/E doctors says 500.000. Labour brought in this centralisation of services and Lib Dems and Tories in government have done nothing to change it. Julia and Darren can work as hard as they like on petitions, it was ignored originally when there were 40,000 names on a petition. It is all political posturing now, to placate the public. DawesJack
  • Score: -6

10:47pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Helen J says...

What might be more realistically achievable is the return of the emergency medical centre status for Wycombe. It seemed able to deal with more types of 'health emergency' and there seemed to be a lot less confusion about where to go when that service was in place from 2007 to 2012.
What might be more realistically achievable is the return of the emergency medical centre status for Wycombe. It seemed able to deal with more types of 'health emergency' and there seemed to be a lot less confusion about where to go when that service was in place from 2007 to 2012. Helen J
  • Score: 7

11:01pm Wed 30 Jul 14

JOHNHEALY says...

Wycombe needs an A & E without a doubt and so do other large towns in the area to be honest. Lets start a campaign and or petition in the paper to get what we all want please.
Wycombe needs an A & E without a doubt and so do other large towns in the area to be honest. Lets start a campaign and or petition in the paper to get what we all want please. JOHNHEALY
  • Score: 11

6:41am Thu 31 Jul 14

retchub says...

DON,T WORRY THE NHS IS SAFE IN TORY HANDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK NOT THEY BELIEVE IN PRIVATISATION ,!!!!
DON,T WORRY THE NHS IS SAFE IN TORY HANDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK NOT THEY BELIEVE IN PRIVATISATION ,!!!! retchub
  • Score: 5

9:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

QualityCare4all says...

The population of High Wycombe does need to start a debate about health and social care provision. Not just in High Wycombe but also across the whole of Buckinghamshire and Berkshire.
It is not just A & E that needs to be looked at but all services including health Visitors, District Nurses, Mental Health and General Practice. Dont foget Social Care as wel
All services are interconnected.
Our current hospital is on three sites, with expensive, inefficient PFIs. It is NOT a cost effective way to deliver our acute healthcare.
There is too much political point scoring and not enough information & debate amongst the residents of Bucks & Berks.
You cannot look at health care provision in Wycombe on its own as it linked with other areas.
We need to stop thinking about buidlings and start looking at how the public can get a high standard from its care services.
There is no extra funding
The population of High Wycombe does need to start a debate about health and social care provision. Not just in High Wycombe but also across the whole of Buckinghamshire and Berkshire. It is not just A & E that needs to be looked at but all services including health Visitors, District Nurses, Mental Health and General Practice. Dont foget Social Care as wel All services are interconnected. Our current hospital is on three sites, with expensive, inefficient PFIs. It is NOT a cost effective way to deliver our acute healthcare. There is too much political point scoring and not enough information & debate amongst the residents of Bucks & Berks. You cannot look at health care provision in Wycombe on its own as it linked with other areas. We need to stop thinking about buidlings and start looking at how the public can get a high standard from its care services. There is no extra funding QualityCare4all
  • Score: -2

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