MP shows no sign of leaving limelight after Boris attack

MP show no sign of leaving limelight after Boris attack

MP show no sign of leaving limelight after Boris attack

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MP Dominic Grieve is showing no sign of stepping back from high-profile politics after losing his Attorney General post with an attack on Boris Johnson’s ‘draconian’ ideas on terrorism.

The Beaconsfield MP, who also represents Marlow, stood up to the Mayor of London, who said Britons leaving unannounced for Syria should be presumed in law to be terrorists.

But the lawyer slammed his fellow Conservative for calling for changes in the law to control people’s movement, saying there were "perfectly innocent reasons" for people to visit Syria.

Mr Grieve told the BBC: "It is a draconian proposal because it would envisage getting rid of ordinary principles of common law which would put the burden on the prosecution to prove its case.

"Boris Johnson is suggesting that effectively there should be rebuttable presumption, so that the moment it was established by a prosecutor that you had gone to a country like Syria the burden would be on you to show that you were acting innocently.

"As you could imagine there are going to be people who have perfectly innocent reasons for going to Syria, from seeing their families to taking medical aid, quite legitimately."

Mr Johnson, who will stand as MP for Uxbridge in next year’s general election, called for the tighter controls in his column for the Daily Telegraph.

And he said the authorities should be given more powers to monitor those returning from war-torn countries like Syria.

Last week, a militant - believed to be British - was filmed killing American journalist James Foley.

More than 500 Britons are believed to have joined the group Islamic State (IS), which is fighting to capture large parts of Iraq and Syria.

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11:54am Wed 27 Aug 14

Saiphx says...

Dominic Grieve is absolutely correct to be worried about politicians who claim to want "a small change in the law", which in facts reverses one of its most basic tenets - innocent until proven guilty. It's interesting that Johnson wants visits to Muslim countries to be classed as suspicious. Recently, HSBC has illegally closed hundreds of accounts belonging to Muslim groups and individuals without explanation. And the British govt has been conspicuous by its omission to criticise Israel for its disproportionate and genocidal attacks on Gaza. Is there a Crusade against Islam going on in the Tory party and in the British govt over which the British people have absolutely no control?
Dominic Grieve is absolutely correct to be worried about politicians who claim to want "a small change in the law", which in facts reverses one of its most basic tenets - innocent until proven guilty. It's interesting that Johnson wants visits to Muslim countries to be classed as suspicious. Recently, HSBC has illegally closed hundreds of accounts belonging to Muslim groups and individuals without explanation. And the British govt has been conspicuous by its omission to criticise Israel for its disproportionate and genocidal attacks on Gaza. Is there a Crusade against Islam going on in the Tory party and in the British govt over which the British people have absolutely no control? Saiphx
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9:09am Thu 28 Aug 14

Bill Taxpayer says...

No, I'm with Boris on this one. It's no use trying to be fair and reasonable with these nutters, they don't play by any rules. Anyone going to or coming back from Syria should be treated with suspicion unless they can prove otherwise.
Anyone going there to fight can **** well stay there if they like the place so much!
No, I'm with Boris on this one. It's no use trying to be fair and reasonable with these nutters, they don't play by any rules. Anyone going to or coming back from Syria should be treated with suspicion unless they can prove otherwise. Anyone going there to fight can **** well stay there if they like the place so much! Bill Taxpayer
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9:39am Thu 28 Aug 14

CatherineAB says...

You shouldn't change basic law to accommodate the barmy few. There are better ways of dealing with wrong-doers.
You shouldn't change basic law to accommodate the barmy few. There are better ways of dealing with wrong-doers. CatherineAB
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7:29pm Sat 6 Sep 14

marlowbucks says...

CatherineAB, I consider myself a Right Winger (with some Liberal tendencies - sorry!) and I agree.
So often our legislature, when bored or making a point just produces more legislation.
How about applying existing law and, when someone shouts "Racist!", ignore them?

This present situation however, presents opportunities which are not usually available.
I do not like the idea of changing our law but I WOULD take those returning volunteers into custody and discuss their views with them over a period of several weeks in a structured manner, pointing out the advantages of living in our country compared with where their parents or grandparents emigrated from.
Needless to say, they should all be kept under scrutiny for the next twenty years or so.

The foregoing, of course, applies only to those not suspected of murder.
CatherineAB, I consider myself a Right Winger (with some Liberal tendencies - sorry!) and I agree. So often our legislature, when bored or making a point just produces more legislation. How about applying existing law and, when someone shouts "Racist!", ignore them? This present situation however, presents opportunities which are not usually available. I do not like the idea of changing our law but I WOULD take those returning volunteers into custody and discuss their views with them over a period of several weeks in a structured manner, pointing out the advantages of living in our country compared with where their parents or grandparents emigrated from. Needless to say, they should all be kept under scrutiny for the next twenty years or so. The foregoing, of course, applies only to those not suspected of murder. marlowbucks
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