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One in four residents will be Muslim, MP says


ABOUT one in four Wycombe residents will one day be Muslim district MP Paul Goodman has predicted – leading him to call for greater cohesion between communities.

He said he expected the population to rise to between 25 and 28 per cent by 2024.

This is up from six per cent in 1991 and 11 per cent in 2001, where 162,105 people lived in the district.

Mr Goodman, shadow minister for community cohesion, said: “The Wycombe of the future, like a lot of Britain of the future, is going to look very different.”

Yet Mr Goodman, set to quit at the next election, said the district was well placed to see greater integration between communities.

He told community leaders today: “Wycombe has a marvellous opportunity given its relative prosperity, employment rates and so on, to be a beacon for Christian-Muslim relations.

“It should be easier than in places where perhaps there is a steeper hill to climb.”

Public bodies have given renewed focus to community relations after arrests in High Wycombe in 2006 over an alleged terror plot, presently being heard in court.

The Government has given district groups cash to run projects to fight extremism.

Conservative Mr Goodman said such problems are “solvable” but “only if enough people pay Islam the compliment of taking it seriously and doing a little basic study”.

The “glory” of multi-culturalism had been letting different faiths “do their own thing” he said.

Referring to the 2005 London terror attacks, he said: “An aspect of leaving people alone to do their own thing and assuming the results were always good haven’t turned out to be right.”

Alluding to the John Lennon song “Imagine”, which imagines a peaceful world without religion, the MP backed the case for a society of faith.

Religion had contributed to education, politics and morality, he said. “It is completely impossible to imagine human life or social life without it,” Mr Goodman said.

He was speaking at a seminar organised by the Council for Christian and Muslim Relations for High Wycombe at Bucks New University today.


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SDJones, Hazlemere says...
4:47pm Wed 17 Jun 09

Religion had contributed to education, politics and morality, he said. “It is completely impossible to imagine human life or social life without it,” Mr Goodman said.


Far from it, it would be a better world without it, cant this goodman creature leave now and not after the election

Tref, OutStanding in my field says...
5:08pm Wed 17 Jun 09

So 3 in 4 will be something other than Muslim. I have no issues with a multi-cultural society, but this over-focus on Muslims is getting annoying.

wigwam54, bennet end says...
5:57pm Wed 17 Jun 09

well at least 1 in 4 wont be getting swine flu

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
6:16pm Wed 17 Jun 09

I think it's called colonialism

Or is that something to do with enamas ?

A failed monk , a failed journalist and now a failed disgruntled and disillusioned MP !

He MUST know what he's talking about , don't you think ?

bakerbill, High Wycombe says...
8:35pm Wed 17 Jun 09

To my knowledge most Muslims usually vote , when their numbers reach 25% of the population 100% of their vote will out-way the 75% of the rest of us ,because our vote will be divided between the other parties also only about 20% to 35% of the electorate normally vote , so they will win for whichever party they vote for, its no wonder that MP Paul Goodman is trying to get the Muslim vote . I predict they will ask for much money to be spent on the Muslim community in High Wycombe for this vote. If they don't get their way they will properly start a new Islamic political party up and vote it in .

tom.marlow, marlow says...
8:43am Thu 18 Jun 09

In the 2001 census for England and Wales, Jedi was the 4th largest reported religion after Christianity, Islam and Hinduism

As it was not even mentioned in any previous census records one can only conclude that its growth rate is far higher than Islam or anything else.

I suggest that if funding for multi faith projects is to be allocated fairly then the Jedi community must be included.

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
2:15pm Thu 18 Jun 09

I'm almost with you, Tom of Marlow

But I hope the Jedi are not as blood-thirsty, empire-building, torturing, money-grubbing, dogmatic, censorious, hypocritical, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou and never-never-wrong as all the other showers.

Fingers crossed( ancient Jedi ritual)

Regards

Blueberry, S Bucks says...
7:35pm Thu 18 Jun 09

In the 2001 census Jedi was only ticked by 0.7% of people nationally, ranging from 2.6% in Brighton to 0.2% in several places.

It's all on the government stats site:

http://www.statistic
s.gov.uk/census2001/
profiles/rank/jedi.a
sp

tigeran, high wycombe says...
9:07pm Thu 18 Jun 09

Hang on, is this England or not? integrate into the English way or leave! what is so bad with that? every other country in the world would like to retain their heratige, why cant we? what is happening in this country? can someone explain?

tom.marlow, marlow says...
10:02pm Thu 18 Jun 09

Blueberry wrote:
In the 2001 census Jedi was only ticked by 0.7% of people nationally, ranging from 2.6% in Brighton to 0.2% in several places. It's all on the government stats site: http://www.statistic s.gov.uk/census2001/ profiles/rank/jedi.a sp
But it was still 4th largest. 390,000 people.

And by rounding down the actual 0.79% to 0.7% you are losing nearly 13%. The force is not to be taken lightly.

For comparison the figures for Muslims were 3.1% and Hindus 1.1%

The figures in the 2011 census will be interesting. I hope to see a growth in followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Pastafarianism. www.venganza.org or
en.wikipedia.org/wik
i/Pastafarian

The Oracle, Marlow says...
12:10pm Fri 19 Jun 09

tom.marlow wrote:
Blueberry wrote:
In the 2001 census Jedi was only ticked by 0.7% of people nationally, ranging from 2.6% in Brighton to 0.2% in several places. It's all on the government stats site: http://www.statistic s.gov.uk/census2001/ profiles/rank/jedi.a sp
But it was still 4th largest. 390,000 people.

And by rounding down the actual 0.79% to 0.7% you are losing nearly 13%. The force is not to be taken lightly.

For comparison the figures for Muslims were 3.1% and Hindus 1.1%

The figures in the 2011 census will be interesting. I hope to see a growth in followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Pastafarianism. www.venganza.org or
en.wikipedia.org/wik

i/Pastafarian
Is there anything less funny than people talking about being a 'Jedi' or 'the force'?

At least the census could be put to some use and these 390,000 desperately lonely individuals could be actively tracked down and summarily executed on the spot. Or, preferably, rounded up and hung en masse in public. Hopefully it would serve as a deterrent to others, and ensure that this type of 'humour' is finally consigned to history, for good.

tom.marlow, marlow says...
6:09pm Fri 19 Jun 09

The Oracle wrote:
tom.marlow wrote:
Blueberry wrote: In the 2001 census Jedi was only ticked by 0.7% of people nationally, ranging from 2.6% in Brighton to 0.2% in several places. It's all on the government stats site: http://www.statistic s.gov.uk/census2001/ profiles/rank/jedi.a sp
But it was still 4th largest. 390,000 people. And by rounding down the actual 0.79% to 0.7% you are losing nearly 13%. The force is not to be taken lightly. For comparison the figures for Muslims were 3.1% and Hindus 1.1% The figures in the 2011 census will be interesting. I hope to see a growth in followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Pastafarianism. www.venganza.org or en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Pastafarian
Is there anything less funny than people talking about being a 'Jedi' or 'the force'? At least the census could be put to some use and these 390,000 desperately lonely individuals could be actively tracked down and summarily executed on the spot. Or, preferably, rounded up and hung en masse in public. Hopefully it would serve as a deterrent to others, and ensure that this type of 'humour' is finally consigned to history, for good.
Oooh, someone got out of bed the wrong side. I can think of plenty of things less funny.

I'm not sure where you are coming from on this Oracle (delphi perhaps?) but the whole point of Jedi, FSM atc is to try and encourage people in general and governments in particular to see that these are no more or less fraudulent than any other so called faiths.

Read the web sites.

It has nothing to do with desperation or loneliness. Most people don't need imaginary friends.

Iftikhar, Forest Gate London says...
9:05pm Fri 19 Jun 09

Salaam

Muslim children have been attending state schools for tha last 60 years. They have been suffering from ****-bashing and bullying. Majority of them have been leaving schools with low grades. They have been leaving schools without learning their cultural and linguistic skiils. The result is that they do not know where they belong. They suffer from Identity crises. Now Muslim youths are victim of terrorism. Thousands of them are being searched in streets and hundreds of them are behind the bar without any trial.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.

Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, they need to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.

A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notorioulsy monolingul Brit.
Iftikhar Ahmad
London School of Islamics Trust

J B Blackett, High Wycombe says...
10:57pm Fri 19 Jun 09

The above is the only proof that is needed to show why we don't want or need divisive religion of any kind , thank you.

skruffs, Totteridge says...
8:15pm Sun 21 Jun 09

Iftikhar,
You have got it soooo wrong. If I lived in Bangladesh, would they create English only Schools??? I think not. If asian people live in England and want to continue speaking their own language and learning about their culture, which I think they should, then it should be down to the parents to do the teaching in the home. Not down to the host country to fund such things which will undoubtedly create rifts between the communities as opposed to bringing them together. You should all try to integrate more and if you are still unhappy you should all consider repatriation. We'd be willing to fund the going away party if you so wish.

bakerbill, High Wycombe says...
2:35pm Thu 2 Jul 09

tom.marlow wrote:
Blueberry wrote:
In the 2001 census Jedi was only ticked by 0.7% of people nationally, ranging from 2.6% in Brighton to 0.2% in several places. It's all on the government stats site: http://www.statistic s.gov.uk/census2001/ profiles/rank/jedi.a sp
But it was still 4th largest. 390,000 people.

And by rounding down the actual 0.79% to 0.7% you are losing nearly 13%. The force is not to be taken lightly.

For comparison the figures for Muslims were 3.1% and Hindus 1.1%

The figures in the 2011 census will be interesting. I hope to see a growth in followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Pastafarianism. www.venganza.org or
en.wikipedia.org/wik

i/Pastafarian
Statistics can prove or disprove anything .the popularity of Jedi is low in this county the prove is there are no elected Jedi MPs,MEP,county ,town/councillors or anyone that has been elected by ballot ,on the over hand their are thousands of elected Muslims representatives

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