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1:07pm Monday 21st December 2009
THIS STORY WAS UPDATED THROUGHOUT MONDAY.
SHELTERS have been set up, hotels are full and Eden shopping centre is helping out stranded shoppers as the cold snap takes its toll on High Wycombe.
The police and Buckinghamshire County Council have tonight released a joint statement asking people to stay in their homes and urging motorists to stay in their vehicles or find alternative accommodation.
The authorities have set up four emergency shelters to house stranded residents.
These are the Wycombe Sports Centre, the Salvation Army in Frogmoor, Baptist Church in Easton Street, while Sainsbury’s and Morrisons have opened up their car parks.
Amersham Hill in the town centre has been closed to traffic, with officers directing motorists towards Beaconsfield.
Furious drivers have blasted county council chiefs over gritting. A road boss said earlier today that main roads were gritted but this was less effective as temperatures plummet. Minor roads were gritted where possible they said (see later).
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Supt George Wrigley said: “We advise people not to embark on a journey at this time unless it is absolutely necessary.
"If you are already on the road you should not abandon your car, but try to get to a safe place.
"Please leave contact details with your vehicle if is necessary to abandon it.
“If overnight accommodation is needed, we would advise motorists to stay with nearby friends or relatives, if possible, or to make use of hotel accommodation, or contact police or their local council."
Temporary shelters set up throughout the town are seeing more and more visitors arrive.
Rowena Robertson from Hazlemere and Margaret Boyne from Totteridge arrived at the Salvation Army in Frogmoor earlier this evening, having never previously met each other.
They have now agreed to meet for a cup of tea at a later date, having shared the same experience.
Mrs Robertson gave up trying to get home at 8pm, having left the Eden Centre’s car park at 4.15pm.
She said: “There’s a serious problem in High Wycombe with traffic.
“Where I come from in Shrewsbury, they have under-road heating on the major hills. We have got nothing, not even grit.”
Mrs Boyne added: “All this stems from the council not gritting the hills. It’s disgusting.”
Salvation Army Commanding Officer Tony Frost said: “We are just delighted to help. It’s the least we could do, especially if there’s no room at the various inns.
“It’s what Christmas is all about. There was no room for Jesus at the inn, so the least we could do was open our doors.”
Among those at the Salvation Army this evening were a party of seven from the Gray and Graham families, who had been to see the Aladdin pantomime at the Swan Theatre.
They decided to seek temporary accommodation at 10pm – having gone to the theatre’s matinee performance at 2.30pm.
Jean Graham said: “The Salvation Army have done a fantastic job and always make you feel welcome, but where are the gritters? Or anything, for that matter? It’s just appalling.”
Around a dozen pantogoers were still stuck at the Swan at midnight, with the last show having finished at 9.30pm.
Chefs rustled up some soup for the people unable to get going on their journey home.
The theatre had been on standby ready to take in people searching for a place to spend the night.
House manager Louise Mullan said: “Our staff have been absolutely fantastic. They have stayed behind to make sure people are happy and everyone’s in good spirits.”
The Baptist Church in Easton Street was also looking after people this evening, with up to eight rooms available should they be needed.
Erica Sage was trying to get home to Great Missenden when she gave up trying after being stuck in traffic for six hours.
She said: “You always see it on TV happening to other people and you never think it will be you.
“I’d just like to thank everyone here at the church. They have done a great job.”
Tim O’Brien, a police chaplain, said: “In a weird way, it’s been nice. We’ve never been set up as a shelter before.
“We always try to serve the community as and when we can. It’s been the traditional Christmas spirit and it’s better to be here than stuck in your car.”
Meanwhile, all 32 rooms at The Alexandra Hotel in Queen Alexandra Road are fully booked, while dozens of stranded people will spend the night in the hotel’s restaurant.
A female volunteer at the hotel, who would only give the name Wendy, is helping hotel staff answer the phones and making sure marooned guests are as comfortable as possible.
She said: “Things normally quieten down here at Christmas but all the rooms were snapped up before 6pm, many of which are local people.”
The Holiday Inn at Cressex reported all of its rooms were fully booked by 4.30pm and the Contractors Hotel in West Wycombe Road is also full.
The Papermill Premier Inn hotel is fully booked tonight after travellers gave up trying to get home and decided to check in.
Physiotherapist Andrew Dwar booked in after taking five and a half hours to get from Fitness First at Wycombe Retail Park, where he had been to the gym, to the hotel.
The 30-year-old said: “The car kept spinning and the power steering went. I thought, ‘I’m going to smash into another car’ so I decided to get a hotel.
“I’m a little bit frustrated. I don’t understand why the gritters did not go out earlier.
“Every time it snows in the UK everything grinds to a halt.”
Emma Robinson from Birmingham failed to get up Marlow Hill to get to the M40 to return home. It took her five hours and 40 minutes to get to the hotel.
The 23-year-old visual support manager said: “I’m laughing about it really. You either laugh or cry in situations like this.”
Reports on social networking website Twitter suggest more than 100 people are having to spend the evening at the John Lewis department store in Cressex as the traffic is so bad people are unable to get out.
‘Acuras web’ said in a Tweet: “Just back in High Wycombe from London. Horrible 5 hour journey. This weather is mental!”
‘Jessbarberx’ added: “I’m in High Wycombe and drove one mile in three and a half hours.”
Eden shopping centre is taking in ‘vulnerable shoppers’ into management suites to get them out of the cold and centre manager Daniel Tomkinson has not ruled out turning the multi-million pound complex into an over-night shelter.
He said: “We’ve got a few areas open to vulnerable people, such as the elderly and people with children, and we are making sure they are being kept warm.
“A number of people have left their cars with us and have decided to walk home, many are waiting a while to see if the roads improve, while others are completely stranded.
“We are trying to find these people alternative accommodation and I’m sure, if things do not improve over the coming hours, we will do what we can to get them home or help them.”
He added those that have left their cars over night would not be charged for parking.
Roads are gridlocked throughout Bucks tonight as residents hit out at council chiefs over gritting.
People are leaving their cars and buses having to abandon routes as traffic struggles with icy roads.
Many staff have had to return to work. Traffic is struggling to climb hills to neighbourhoods including Tylers Green, Wooburn Green and Totteridge.
This means it is having to flow into the centre of High Wycombe. Bucks Free Press deputy sports editor Alan Feldberg took four hours to get from Loudwater to Wycombe Cricket Club.
Cars were seen being pushed up Sheepridge Lane, near Little Marlow. As of 8pm traffic is queuing northbound on the M40.
Residents are writing of their frustrations on Twitter.
One said: "Is still stuck in High wycombe. No way I can get home."
Supermarkets are staying open to offer hot food and drinks to stranded shoppers.
Tesco in Loudwater is offering free tea and coffee to visitors and is offering use of its car park – but people are angry at being stuck at the store.
Checkout worker Glynis Stiff, 55, had been waiting to leave since 3.30pm when the Bucks Free Press spoke to her at 10.30pm – having been on duty since 6am.
The Hillview Road resident said: “Everyone is up in arms about the gritters. It’s disgusting. I wouldn’t have voted for the local councillor.”
One female customer, who asked not to be named, spent £149 on shopping this evening.
She said: “I came to miss the Christmas rush. I looked at all the dates. I wish I hadn’t bothered now.”
Ray Shefford of Cock Lane set out to the supermarket at 5.20pm – eventually arriving at 8.40pm.
The 60-year-old said: “I can’t understand why the roads haven’t been gritted. It has been widely reported that this weather was coming. I think it’s a disgrace.”
It was a similar story at the Morrisons store in the town centre, where the café has remained open long past closing time.
General manager Haffi Singardia said around 40 people were preparing to bed down at the supermarket for the evening.
One of them is disabled Christine Marshall – who three hours after leaving her car parking space had only made it as far as the store’s petrol station.
She said: “The whole of Wycombe was gridlocked. I can’t work out why the roads weren’t gritted. I live on Hillview Road and at no point since last Thursday have I seen a gritter.
“Morrisons have been useful, they’ve put our goods in the fridges and freezers. We are all pretty cheerful, considering we are all stuck.
“I was born in Wycombe and have never had this happen.”
A gritting boss today said crews were today salting “secondary” roads and refilling salt bins where possible.
But Si Khan, of Bucks County Council, said grit will be less effective as temperatures plummet further, to as cold as -10 degrees C in Wycombe last night.
Buckinghamshire County Council’s original policy was to grit major roads only and other roads and pavements if conditions are “prolonged”.
Gritters turned to these secondary routes yesterday, more than days after snow hit south Bucks.
Mrs Khan, BCC transport localities team leader, said: “Unfortunately, we only have a certain amount of resources.”
Town centre pavements were gritted on Friday and Sunday, she said.
But the “very rare” conditions meant residents will “not see any difference” to routes gritted overnight, she said. Grit is less effective under -8 digress C, she said.
The 360 gritting bins in Wycombe district were filled in September and October and will be today where possible, she said. Each takes half a tonne and lorries hold three tonnes.
But she said: “The salt is not there for your personal, private use. It is not there for your driveway.
“Some people are just being selfish, coming up with wheelbarrows.”
A Hawksmoor Close, High Wycombe resident wrote on our website: “Someone in a 4x4 came and filled the back of their vehicle with it. Now it’s completely empty.”
Ambulance bosses tonight said they were escalating their alert level.
This means more patients will be transferred in ambulance cars "where clinically appropriate" and all clinical staff are "available to work and support the frontline".
Many residents are angry with the council’s response (see link, bottom of story).
Deeds Grove, High Wycombe resident Janice Atkinson said: “How dare they put our lives in danger? We all knew there was going to be heavy snow on Thursday evening.”
Ken Law hit out at an article in the Conservative-controlled council’s Buckinghamshire Times magazine, delivered to homes at taxpayers’ expense. This “boasts” of 10,500 tonnes of salt stocks, he said.
He said: “As of this cold Sunday evening I suspect they are still filled with 10,500 tonnes because I have not seen a single gritter on the roads.”
Residents are being urged to drive only where essential as cars struggle with icy conditions.
A driver had a miraculous escape after losing control and mounting a pavement in Totteridge Road (see pic, right) – only to wedge between a wall and a parked car.
Witness Steve Walker said: “I've seen the gritters go up Totteridge Hill only twice in two days and the amount of grit they were spraying out was pathetic, really pitiful.”
Buckinghamshire Hospitals NHS Trust said: "During the recent adverse weather conditions, all of the services run by Buckinghamshire hospitals have remained open.
"While some staff have had difficulty travelling to work, all planned outpatient and inpatient appointments are continuing.
"Patients have been encouraged to call in advance and rearrange if they feel they cannot get to hospital safely due to the weather.
"Over the last few days, we have seen an expected increase in A&E attendances and emergency admissions to our hospitals, including those who have fallen and those with chest infections.
"The Trust would like to thank all staff for their continued effort - we value their support during this time."
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5george31, flackwell heath says...
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Slacker wrote:Absolutely!!!!! Just had a 30 minute downpour here in Chesham.....
They are saying that no more snow is going to fall but..
a) it is snowing right not
b) if they read the link they quote to for the met office they would see snow is forecast for between 3-6pm.
Rikard, Downley says...
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ferrellcat, the grass says...
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Hit me, HARD! says...
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pumpkin wrote:Excellent. See you in Micklefield spreading the stuff by hand sometime soon then.
Hit me hard - I will if you are so selfish.
Blaze Falconburger, High Wycombe says...
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678, Marlow says...
4:11pm Mon 21 Dec 09
ferrellcat wrote:they do, its called business rates and corporation tax
I think business should cough up for some of this cost they use the transport system.The roads are there livelihood so Put a levee on them at the start of the year. No council wants this extra cost and some never incur it.You cant store away one sunny day from the summer and bring it out when the snow is on the ground.it has to be paid for with material and labour.If business expects its staff to be at work then it has an obligation to address the snow issue
Blaze Falconburger, High Wycombe says...
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Plus ça change..., Wycombe says...
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sidthesexist, High Wycombe says...
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gem1982, High Wycombe says...
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The Pigs wrote:I completely agree!!!
We live on Deeds Grove and according to the WCC website this road is a Salt Route!! as it is a Bus Route. The bus tried on Saturday morning, it just got past our house then had to let everyone off because the road was still treacherous - and still is three days later. It is supposed to be bin day so I can see it will be two weeks until it gets emptied as I guess they would not have made it up the hill. I just find it alarming that with what we are made to pay each year that there seems to be an inversely proportional relationship to the cost vs. service, the more we pay the less we get. How much more notice did our Council need about the weather, we all know the Met Office gets it wrong but.... I do believe that WCC are so worried about the current blame culture and being sued by someone who slipped over on a treated stretch. Yesterday Eden Car Park saying 520 Free Spaces.. They were only free because all the rooftop areas were shut off owing to snow - took 30mins to find a space - what a total farce!!
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Shelley61, says...
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sidthesexist wrote:The weather forecast talks about air temperature - in times of prolonged cold spells like this one the ground temperature will be much lower, and hence why the grit is so ineffective.
Not sure why they mentioned -8 and -10? but it was -5 at 8am this morning
spottydotty, Naphill says...
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Rikard, Downley says...
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Shelley61 wrote:@Shelley61 - I hear what you're saying but if BCC had been on the job before the long forecast snow started this fresh fall wouldn't be sitting on top of a layer of packed ice.
sidthesexist wrote:The weather forecast talks about air temperature - in times of prolonged cold spells like this one the ground temperature will be much lower, and hence why the grit is so ineffective.
Not sure why they mentioned -8 and -10? but it was -5 at 8am this morning
What's caught people out today is the fact that it wasn't predicted to be so bad, and came much earlier than predicted too... I know I'm going to sound like a cliche now but it's definitely the "wrong type of snow" - the other stuff was powdery, but this stuff's wet and heavy - I have a tree in my front garden that looks like it's about to lose a branch or two under the weight...
I made it out at lunchtime today before the snow came, but otherwise haven't been out since Thursday evening... I count myself lucky that I can work from home, and have enough holiday days left that I don't lose out...
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Voyeur wrote:Every year snow has fallen in High Wycombe and every year the same excuses by WDC. How many accidents or deaths does it take before WDC act to make the roads safe during this period. Do they put a value on peoples lives? Like most of society today, WDC are happy to take your money but do not give the service in return. I called both the police and WDC to raise my concerns about the icy conditions on **** Lane, asking them to grit and close this road, due to the icy conditions causing cars to slide down the road. There are now abandoned cars at the bottom of the road blocking it. They had plenty of notice that the snow was coming, so why the lack of action? A boycott on council tax is called for I think.
Why is the council spokesperson talking about minus 8 and minus 10??? . Those sort of low temperatures have not even been mentioned by the met office for this area. . It sounds like a cop out to me. . They never gritted the 1 in 5 gradient road C ock Lane and there have been multiple crashes just below the railway bridge. . The traffic lights are out. . One skidding car took out a street light and then crashed into another car. . The road is now impassable.
Rikard, Downley says...
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wayneo, bucks says...
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Rikard wrote:Ask the same question when it's nice and sunny and you will get a different answer.
***AN APPEAL*** The council say we wouldn't be prepared to pay for gritting, that they can't afford it. They know it's a false economy and just pushes the cost onto the NHS who have to fix people, onto local businesses who lose out and back onto us who have to tackle something we are not equipped to do (although we try). QUESTION: IF THE COUNCIL ADDED £2.50 TO £5 ONTO YOUR COUNCIL TAX BILL AND RINGFENCED THAT MONEY FOR GRITTING, CARRYING IT FORWARD IF IT'S NOT NEEDED, WOULD *YOU* PAY IT? ***PLEASE LET THE BFP KNOW IF YOU WOULD PAY*** Everyone I've asked said they would. The council hasn't the imagination or the will to keep us safe and moving - saying they can't afford it is disingenuous. The snow has been prolonged and it's an impossible task now. Reports from neighbouring counties show IT CAN BE DONE. STOP SPLURGING *OUR* MONEY ON STUPID WHIMS, SANDWICHES AND EXPENSES AND TAKE YOUR JOB SERIOUSLY - YOU REALLY HAVE *NO* EXCUSE. If the authorities don't have an idea of how to fix it - go out onto the streets and ask the people of Wycombe - there are plenty of common sense things you could do BUT YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US. Or are you implying we are, to the last person, *ALL* stupid??? THIS BEGGARS BELIEF!
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sidthesexist, High Wycombe says...
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Tharus Bond wrote:And why would we want to pay for our own salt when we used to have road salt bins at the ends of our roads payed for out of our council taxes until the bean counters at the council removed them
you want to blame someone? well blame the elements! and the laws of nature! you can't get something for nothing! A bit of effort from residents also in hindsight would have helped! a bag of rock salt in your garage! on roads that aren't on the main gritting routes!
As mentioned earlier, salt stops working at certain temperatures!
say a prayer to god, the weather dieties anyone you think may help ease the burden of a beautiful white Christmas!!!!!!!
wheres the christmas spirit? it isn't even manufactured by the Doctor destroying an Alien space craft!
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fishyfingers, wycombe says...
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nellyfire wrote:you mean best western! simple business fact - supply and demand!
i question this to start... all 32 rooms at The Alexandra Hotel in Queen Alexandra Road are fully booked i phoned them this evening and they were quoting $400 per room. well done great weston people in need and you use it to make money. i will be making sure people avoid your hotel. people in high wycombe are on the streets this christmas and you are doing this,,, discusting..
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demoness, Hades says...
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chamach wrote:Pardon?
its absolutly ridiculous my sis nd aunty r stuk at stoke madavile nd dere no way 2 get dere so much traffic we gna leave dem dre till mornin if the roads were salted we cud get dre atleast arrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh h/'p
erm, ermsville says...
10:54pm Mon 21 Dec 09
nellyfire wrote:if all the rooms were booked, why would they be quoting a price?
i question this to start... all 32 rooms at The Alexandra Hotel in Queen Alexandra Road are fully booked i phoned them this evening and they were quoting $400 per room. well done great weston people in need and you use it to make money. i will be making sure people avoid your hotel. people in high wycombe are on the streets this christmas and you are doing this,,, discusting..
SG7, Penn says...
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anj, says...
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fishyfingers, wycombe says...
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demoness wrote:only a little
Has it been snowing then?
fishyfingers, wycombe says...
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deecee01, high wycombe says...
11:01pm Mon 21 Dec 09
SG7 wrote:Perhaps everyone should stand outside the council offices tomorrow and bombard the councillors with snowballs!
Look at the number of comments posted on this subject! There is justified frustration and EVIDENCE that the roads have been not been sufficiently gritted since the snow first fell on Thursday night.
The Council have some serious explaining to do.
SG7, Penn says...
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demoness, Hades says...
11:02pm Mon 21 Dec 09
fishyfingers wrote:It never snows in Hades so I did wonder what the fuss is about.
demoness wrote: Has it been snowing then?only a little
Stokey, High Wycombe says...
11:03pm Mon 21 Dec 09
fishyfingers, wycombe says...
11:04pm Mon 21 Dec 09
SG7 wrote:what is a glib ?
here we go with the stupid glib people comments. you guys crack on. my guess is you are insensitive and smug in everything you say and do.
demoness, Hades says...
11:07pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Stokey wrote:Yes it is totally the fault of the conservatives. It is also their fault that we have a global recession, the rain forests are being chopped down and probably the war in Afghanistan as well.
Finally a taste of what will happen if the Conservatives take charge of the whole country again! the uk at a complete standstill, lack of action, talking rubbish, the end!
demoness, Hades says...
11:08pm Mon 21 Dec 09
SG7 wrote:Yes, yes we are. Totally. It is a curse I am afraid but heigh ho.
here we go with the stupid glib people comments. you guys crack on. my guess is you are insensitive and smug in everything you say and do.
fishyfingers, wycombe says...
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Rikard, Downley says...
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deecee01, high wycombe says...
11:15pm Mon 21 Dec 09
SG7 wrote:Last time I looked, I don't think I was a glib. Get over yourself already.
here we go with the stupid glib people comments. you guys crack on. my guess is you are insensitive and smug in everything you say and do.
nellyfire, high wycombe says...
11:17pm Mon 21 Dec 09
demoness, Hades says...
11:18pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Rikard wrote:Oh don't be so silly. We are merely pouring a little light heartedness into a situation that was getting very heated. ( or not as the case may be).
TROLL ALERT:- fishyfingers demoness
demoness, Hades says...
11:20pm Mon 21 Dec 09
SG7 wrote:Yes I agree.
Heads must roll for this. As a county we are so clearly not equipped. This has to stop. Lives have been put at risk tonight. I pity anyone seriously ill or in labour. I hope those Bucks County Councillors responsible for transport are ready for the backlash. Get writing!
nellyfire, high wycombe says...
11:21pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Stokey wrote:have you not noticed we are run by labour.. this s==== is fron central government..
Finally a taste of what will happen if the Conservatives take charge of the whole country again! the uk at a complete standstill, lack of action, talking rubbish, the end!
john_b, Wycombe says...
11:21pm Mon 21 Dec 09
fishyfingers, wycombe says...
11:22pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Rikard wrote:demoness won't like being grouped with me!
TROLL ALERT:- fishyfingers demoness
charliesmum, High Wycombe says...
11:24pm Mon 21 Dec 09
demoness, Hades says...
11:28pm Mon 21 Dec 09
fishyfingers wrote:Ohh I don't mind being grouped in with you FF.
Rikard wrote: TROLL ALERT:- fishyfingers demonessdemoness won't like being grouped with me! you may think i am a troll but i fail to see what all the fuss is about, a little snow - and the temperature hoovering around 0 degrees. life goes on... pubs are still open, take aways are still open, the cinema is still open. ido apprecaite the roads are quite dangerous mainly due to poor drivers, so thanks to all the emergency workers working tonight.
Rikard, Downley says...
11:33pm Mon 21 Dec 09
emmse, flackwell heath says...
11:42pm Mon 21 Dec 09
pennman, Penn says...
11:43pm Mon 21 Dec 09
demoness, Hades says...
11:44pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
11:44pm Mon 21 Dec 09
demoness, Hades says...
11:45pm Mon 21 Dec 09
pennman wrote:Gosh your skoda is amazing!
3 hours to get back from B'field old town to Penn, then a further hour of shuttle runs to rescue people on Pauls Hill!!! Time for a well-earned sleep now.
mary46, stokenchurch says...
11:45pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Elmo, High Wycombe says...
11:49pm Mon 21 Dec 09
emmse, flackwell heath says...
11:51pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Slacker wrote:It took my husband 40mins to get up the dip (near the old Magpie pub),abso nightmare,cars sliding all over,but apparently people were charging £5 a push...
Flackwell Heath is inaccessible now. Unless you have super tyres or wings, nobody is getting in or out of flackwell. All the hills are either too dangerous with stacks of abandoned cars or they have been closed.
Slacker, Flackwell says...
11:54pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Eachban, High Wycombe says...
11:58pm Mon 21 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
12:03am Tue 22 Dec 09
emmse wrote:Cheeky buggers if true. I heard the locals were helping for free. I live near to the dip but I could not help as I was working.
Slacker wrote:It took my husband 40mins to get up the dip (near the old Magpie pub),abso nightmare,cars sliding all over,but apparently people were charging £5 a push...
Flackwell Heath is inaccessible now. Unless you have super tyres or wings, nobody is getting in or out of flackwell. All the hills are either too dangerous with stacks of abandoned cars or they have been closed.
mary46, stokenchurch says...
12:07am Tue 22 Dec 09
deecee01, high wycombe says...
12:10am Tue 22 Dec 09
emmse wrote:That is a disgrace to charge for pushing people's cars. What happened to good old fashioned public spirit, but maybe it was all the druggies pushing cars so they could get money for their next hit
Slacker wrote:It took my husband 40mins to get up the dip (near the old Magpie pub),abso nightmare,cars sliding all over,but apparently people were charging £5 a push...
Flackwell Heath is inaccessible now. Unless you have super tyres or wings, nobody is getting in or out of flackwell. All the hills are either too dangerous with stacks of abandoned cars or they have been closed.
Slacker, Flackwell says...
12:15am Tue 22 Dec 09
mary46 wrote:Can hubby get to Morrisons shelter? I am sure its not far from there and he can get soome food and drink.
Hope top Johnny at the council has a nice warm bed tonight, my husband left Chesham at 4.30 and is stuck at the bottom of Dashwood hill, he is sleeping in the car after finally giving up. P.S. Daughter still not home either.
mary46, stokenchurch says...
12:24am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
12:29am Tue 22 Dec 09
mary46 wrote:Have you managed to reach her by phone?
Thanks Slacker he has blankets in the car and is bunking down...its my 22 year old daughter I am worrying about...better go and put kettle on its going to be a long night for a lot of us.
chris740, high wycombe says...
12:36am Tue 22 Dec 09
Voyeur, HW says...
12:42am Tue 22 Dec 09
Voyeur, HW says...
12:45am Tue 22 Dec 09
Aspieboy78, West Wycombe says...
12:45am Tue 22 Dec 09
saltedpeanuts, High Wycombe says...
12:45am Tue 22 Dec 09
Farmer Pickles, says...
12:46am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mrs Angry Mum, Downley says...
12:51am Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
12:55am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
12:56am Tue 22 Dec 09
emmse, flackwell heath says...
12:58am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker wrote:I know!!!! We went up a hill in Marlow,and we were advised by the kind public to go up one at a time as it was a pure sheet of ice..They were pushing people up the hill,even we got pushed up and we dont exactly have a lil car,we have a people carrier...Thanks to all those risking themselves to help us!!!!!!
emmse wrote:Cheeky buggers if true. I heard the locals were helping for free. I live near to the dip but I could not help as I was working.Slacker wrote: Flackwell Heath is inaccessible now. Unless you have super tyres or wings, nobody is getting in or out of flackwell. All the hills are either too dangerous with stacks of abandoned cars or they have been closed.It took my husband 40mins to get up the dip (near the old Magpie pub),abso nightmare,cars sliding all over,but apparently people were charging £5 a push...
Hit me, HARD! says...
1:06am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mrs Angry Mum, Downley says...
1:06am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
1:11am Tue 22 Dec 09
Mrs Angry Mum wrote:If they were passable, why were there queues?
The Police were to blame for the West Wycombe queues as no one was stuck, the roads were passable.
Hit me, HARD! says...
1:13am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker wrote:As if they let everyone through, maybe they will cause gridlock again? Better to hold traffic back, make sure they all know where they are going, and guide them around any trouble spots?
Mrs Angry Mum wrote:If they were passable, why were there queues?
The Police were to blame for the West Wycombe queues as no one was stuck, the roads were passable.
Slacker, Flackwell says...
1:19am Tue 22 Dec 09
Hit me wrote:Maybe but West Wycombe Road is a straight road with not many turn offs. Its either go into the snow west, or back into the snow east towards the town centre again.
Slacker wrote:As if they let everyone through, maybe they will cause gridlock again? Better to hold traffic back, make sure they all know where they are going, and guide them around any trouble spots?
Mrs Angry Mum wrote:If they were passable, why were there queues?
The Police were to blame for the West Wycombe queues as no one was stuck, the roads were passable.
...just guessing?
Hit me, HARD! says...
1:31am Tue 22 Dec 09
WycombeDad, High Wycombe says...
1:41am Tue 22 Dec 09
Steve Totteridge Hill, says...
2:26am Tue 22 Dec 09
Tracyfry28, High Wycombe says...
5:10am Tue 22 Dec 09
wayneo, bucks says...
8:20am Tue 22 Dec 09
polypore, High Wycombe says...
8:25am Tue 22 Dec 09
garrige, no mans land says...
8:35am Tue 22 Dec 09
reezzy12, high wycombe says...
8:44am Tue 22 Dec 09
cfcwilson, high wycombe says...
8:50am Tue 22 Dec 09
Punchy, Wycombe says...
9:09am Tue 22 Dec 09
Slacker, Flackwell says...
9:24am Tue 22 Dec 09
Anita21072, High Wycombe says...
9:32am Tue 22 Dec 09
Chelseafan, High Wycombe says...
9:37am Tue 22 Dec 09
SDJones, Hazlemere says...
9:45am Tue 22 Dec 09
Travelbug, High Wycombe says...
9:52am Tue 22 Dec 09
NeilHayes, Booker says...
9:54am Tue 22 Dec 09
weyfarer, Princes Risborough says...
9:57am Tue 22 Dec 09
demoness, Hades says...
10:12am Tue 22 Dec 09
NeilHayes wrote:May I suggest before you come out with such ridiculous remarks that you read back and see the number of worried parents whose children are struggling to get home from work. My daughter got to work, as did my other daughter in Winchester and there are countless others like them.
How is it that the youth of today can't even get to work when the going gets a little tough. My father, 69 years old, living in Booker manages the walk down into High Wycombe to the Eden center to get to work every day and yet other staff members, living in the SAME road, more than half his age stay home! I can see why service levels drop, perhaps the gritters can't be bothered to get to work. Thanks Dad for showing others how it should be done!
Milford12, High Wycombe says...
10:25am Tue 22 Dec 09
Snowgenie, Farnham Common says...
10:31am Tue 22 Dec 09
JP80, says...
10:40am Tue 22 Dec 09
ROCKY, High Wycombe says...
10:46am Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
10:48am Tue 22 Dec 09
AlastairWatts, High Wycombe says...
10:53am Tue 22 Dec 09
joc378, High Wycombe says...
11:03am Tue 22 Dec 09
Hit me, HARD! says...
11:18am Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard wrote:I think the lack of empathy you are refering to is actually a lack of responsibility. There seems to be a good split on here between people who think the council are responsible for the snow, not clearing it, and, frankly, providing bog roll and a helping hand, and people who think you should take responsibility for yourself.
It amazes me the comments "I'm alright so you should be too" - total lack of empathy. I live in an area of sheltered housing and I have problems getting about myself. When I was fit and able this wouldn't have bothered me half as much - but then I appreciated that not everyone is an identikit copy of me. The OAP's round here haven't been able to get out for 4 days and it's only if they have family and they can get up here that they've had any help.
I'm really pleased some of you are alright and this hasn't affected you - but spare a thought for the weak and vulnerable, infirm etc. Thankfully this lack of compassion and understanding seems quite rare. I comfort myself in the knowledge that those fit and able folk who are moaning about people having concerns and worries are themselves getting older - everyone has to learn some time.
Yes - I realise you "don't understand" but why parade your ignorance by berating people less able than yourselves?
demoness, Hades says...
11:26am Tue 22 Dec 09
Hit me wrote:Hmmm I feel I may have to take a tiny bit of issue with you here.
Rikard wrote: It amazes me the comments "I'm alright so you should be too" - total lack of empathy. I live in an area of sheltered housing and I have problems getting about myself. When I was fit and able this wouldn't have bothered me half as much - but then I appreciated that not everyone is an identikit copy of me. The OAP's round here haven't been able to get out for 4 days and it's only if they have family and they can get up here that they've had any help. I'm really pleased some of you are alright and this hasn't affected you - but spare a thought for the weak and vulnerable, infirm etc. Thankfully this lack of compassion and understanding seems quite rare. I comfort myself in the knowledge that those fit and able folk who are moaning about people having concerns and worries are themselves getting older - everyone has to learn some time. Yes - I realise you "don't understand" but why parade your ignorance by berating people less able than yourselves?I think the lack of empathy you are refering to is actually a lack of responsibility. There seems to be a good split on here between people who think the council are responsible for the snow, not clearing it, and, frankly, providing bog roll and a helping hand, and people who think you should take responsibility for yourself. Personally, I think you take responsibility for your own actions. And, if you are old or disabled, you can still check the weather forecast for yourself. You can still decide to stock up on food early. You can still make arrangements to ensure you will be OK. Its still your responsibility. ...OR, you could do nothing, then, then moan that no-one is coming to help you. Or, you could be even more daft, and try to get a bit of christmas shopping in....
Rikard, Downley says...
11:31am Tue 22 Dec 09
anj, says...
11:44am Tue 22 Dec 09
sidthesexist, High Wycombe says...
11:53am Tue 22 Dec 09
chezley15, high wycombe says...
12:02pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Travelbug, High Wycombe says...
12:14pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
1:01pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
1:05pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
1:06pm Tue 22 Dec 09
08642, high wycombe says...
1:35pm Tue 22 Dec 09
08642, high wycombe says...
1:36pm Tue 22 Dec 09
MWyatt, Downley says...
2:01pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Milford12, High Wycombe says...
2:27pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
2:31pm Tue 22 Dec 09
chamach, high wycombe says...
2:34pm Tue 22 Dec 09
demoness wrote:basically my sis and aunty went to stoke madavile as we dropped them off we also had to pick them up due to snow we couldnt.
chamach wrote:Pardon?
its absolutly ridiculous my sis nd aunty r stuk at stoke madavile nd dere no way 2 get dere so much traffic we gna leave dem dre till mornin if the roads were salted we cud get dre atleast arrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh h/'p
Tharus Bond, Flackwell Heath says...
2:37pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Rikard, Downley says...
2:40pm Tue 22 Dec 09
Aramis, Holmer Green says...
4:13pm Tue 22 Dec 09
michaelgwia, Downley says...
7:51pm Tue 22 Dec 09
what_an_odd_town, west wycombe says...
8:58pm Tue 22 Dec 09
fuzzier wrote:I think there used to be one but unfortunately it was a religious station so no-one listened!
its at times like these that we need a local radio station to let us know what the hell is going on!!
iswycombe, high wycombe says...
1:12am Wed 23 Dec 09
08642, high wycombe says...
8:28am Wed 23 Dec 09
michael healy, high wycombe says...
7:52pm Wed 23 Dec 09
Mediawatcher, Aylesbury says...
4:23pm Thu 24 Dec 09
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Hit me, HARD! says...
1:24pm Mon 21 Dec 09
WTF? Whats it there for then? For us to throw on the roads? Surely that would be your job?
If not, please tell me where I collect the keys to one of those big trucks...