Residents' concerns at Daws Hill development

A NEWLY-formed residents’ association has raised concerns over proposals for more than 500 new homes in “one of the most peaceful and rural parts” of High Wycombe.

Daws Hill Residents’ Association has been set up by people concerned at the future of the RAF site there.

It is currently being offered for sale to developers by the Ministry of Defence, and Association chairman Angus Laidlaw said Wycombe District Council had “appeared to give its blessing” to plans for new homes on the site at the authority’s Cabinet meeting last month.

He said that, under the proposals, over 500 homes would be built in an area not equipped to cope with them.

Mr Laidlaw said in a letter to the Bucks Free Press: “Access to the huge new development - likened by one local Councillor to ‘a new village’ - would be obtained via Daws Hill Lane, a charming tree-lined country lane for most of the time, but one which turns itself into a nightmare of traffic at peak periods and school delivery and collection times.

“Anyone who has experienced the local roads at such times will know that they cannot take any more traffic, let alone a development more than twice the size of the existing local community.

“Daws Hill Residents will therefore be very active in the coming months, holding District and County Council representatives to account and seeking early meetings with any prospective developers to let them know what will, and what will not, be acceptable locally.”

He added: “We urge not only local residents, whose peaceful existence is at stake, but also anyone who has been caught up in the dangerous daily traffic chaos in this area, to support us.”

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8:29am Sun 7 Aug 11

Bookermum says...

Daw's Hill will become another London Road if all those houses are built!!
Good lick to the residence's association!!
Daw's Hill will become another London Road if all those houses are built!! Good lick to the residence's association!! Bookermum
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9:18am Sun 7 Aug 11

SDJones says...

thats the whole problem with these developments, the impact on the present surrounding community is never properly looked into, the roads are packed already and to have trucks etc coming up and down the roads to build the thing and then once its built is something that needs to be understood by the planners
thats the whole problem with these developments, the impact on the present surrounding community is never properly looked into, the roads are packed already and to have trucks etc coming up and down the roads to build the thing and then once its built is something that needs to be understood by the planners SDJones
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10:11am Sun 7 Aug 11

Slimster says...

Peaceful and rural? When the M40 is closed maybe
Peaceful and rural? When the M40 is closed maybe Slimster
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11:14am Sun 7 Aug 11

sparky49 says...

Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways.
Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways. sparky49
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11:23am Sun 7 Aug 11

demoness the second says...

sparky49 wrote:
Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways.
I was thinking that Sparky - when has that place ever been really rural?
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways.[/p][/quote]I was thinking that Sparky - when has that place ever been really rural? demoness the second
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11:32am Sun 7 Aug 11

chapmani says...

Before the M40 was built and Daws Hill was a lane.
Before the M40 was built and Daws Hill was a lane. chapmani
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5:06pm Sun 7 Aug 11

Katydid says...

sparky49 wrote:
Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways.
sparky49 wrote:
" . . . Do you remember when the yanks were there? . . ."

Yes, I do - and what I particularly remember is that many of those people both lived and worked on the site, so there was a lot less traffic than if those living in the proposed 500 new homes were going to and from work, scool and shops.

They were a self-sufficient community, preferring the goods (and prices) in their own stores, and their own education system. They had their own medical and other services too.

That's why "Half the time you did not know they were there", that's why I think this development would have a different impact on our local area. And I believe that these consequences deserve serious consideration, rather than instant dismissal as mere 'nimby-ism'.
[quote][p][bold]sparky49[/bold] wrote: Absolute bunkum. Do you remember when the yanks were there? There was a school for 700+ pupils, residence for some 200+ on site students, around 100+ military housing units, a motor transport section, shops, restuarent, garage, post office, bowling alley and countless office staff on site and from other military camps as well as upto 15 coach loads of children brought in each morning along with the field trips at weekends to and from other USAF Bases from around the south of England. In simplistic terms. It was a small self supportive village, although quite insular. Half the time you did not know they were there. What would you like done with it? Left derelict for decades or a bussiness park. Do not deprive people of housing because of your little nimby ways.[/p][/quote]sparky49 wrote: " . . . Do you remember when the yanks were there? . . ." Yes, I do - and what I particularly remember is that many of those people both lived and worked on the site, so there was a lot less traffic than if those living in the proposed 500 new homes were going to and from work, scool and shops. They were a self-sufficient community, preferring the goods (and prices) in their own stores, and their own education system. They had their own medical and other services too. That's why "Half the time you did not know they were there", that's why I think this development would have a different impact on our local area. And I believe that these consequences deserve serious consideration, rather than instant dismissal as mere 'nimby-ism'. Katydid
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5:56pm Sun 7 Aug 11

washondo says...

Excellent assessment K.
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500 "houses" seems quite out of context. I really wonder if sparky49 is the last contributor/resident who lives in a cave, without a back yard? I'm sure the Tory council, if asked, will be delighted to inform sparky49 that we have all moved on to and from mud huts by now, thanks to their integrated "planning" POLICY??????? Let's see the PLAN.
Excellent assessment K. ~ 500 "houses" seems quite out of context. I really wonder if sparky49 is the last contributor/resident who lives in a cave, without a back yard? I'm sure the Tory council, if asked, will be delighted to inform sparky49 that we have all moved on to and from mud huts by now, thanks to their integrated "planning" POLICY??????? Let's see the PLAN. washondo
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12:24pm Mon 8 Aug 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

@Sparky49; how do you get 700+ pupils and 200+ students from 100 military homes. Did every home have to have 7 children? Can you check our facts?
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A fair number of the 100 Military homes was for single people (i.e. un-attached.un-accom
panied) and the vast majority of those did not have any children, at least not in this country.
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For the last couple of years the married quarters (i.e. family size homes) on the base have been in use primarily by British Forces personnel and their families. They use local schools (or boarding schools) and as a percentage of the population have more children because there are no OAPs or unaccompanied singles in family (formally referred to as married) quarters,...
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@Sparky49; how do you get 700+ pupils and 200+ students from 100 military homes. Did every home have to have 7 children? Can you check our facts? ... A fair number of the 100 Military homes was for single people (i.e. un-attached.un-accom panied) and the vast majority of those did not have any children, at least not in this country. ... For the last couple of years the married quarters (i.e. family size homes) on the base have been in use primarily by British Forces personnel and their families. They use local schools (or boarding schools) and as a percentage of the population have more children because there are no OAPs or unaccompanied singles in family (formally referred to as married) quarters,... ... TheHorsesMouth
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12:35pm Mon 8 Aug 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

There are a few family/married quarters empty in the old USAF base but I'd suggest 90% are currently in use with about 180-200 Adults that live there currently (including teens with cars etc.)
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All of these people currently shop and work off-site and have to use Dawes Hill Lane.
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Some of course will be on deployment in various theatres of war.
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Data:
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Florida Street - 60+ Adults
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Alabama Drive & Circle - 70+ Adults
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California Circle - 25+ Adults
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There are a few family/married quarters empty in the old USAF base but I'd suggest 90% are currently in use with about 180-200 Adults that live there currently (including teens with cars etc.) ... All of these people currently shop and work off-site and have to use Dawes Hill Lane. ... Some of course will be on deployment in various theatres of war. ... Data: ... Florida Street - 60+ Adults ... Alabama Drive & Circle - 70+ Adults ... California Circle - 25+ Adults ... TheHorsesMouth
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12:49pm Mon 8 Aug 11

TheHorsesMouth says...

And I KNOW that most of the residents on the old base are very happy with the existing properties, the quiet environment, quiet roads in the complex with many trees and play areas for the children.
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They don't wont to move out but will be forced to by the MOD.
And I KNOW that most of the residents on the old base are very happy with the existing properties, the quiet environment, quiet roads in the complex with many trees and play areas for the children. ... They don't wont to move out but will be forced to by the MOD. TheHorsesMouth
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4:23pm Mon 8 Aug 11

Agniesca says...

Will the residents of the "RAF Dawes Hill Village" have their own school, medical facilities, subsidised supermarket (which accepts only US dollars) petrol at US prices and have their own entertainment facility including dance facilities and a bowl?,or will they wish to use WDC's facilities, travel into town by car and increase the pressure on "our" facilities. IF the latter is true, then the proposed development is a nightmare for anybody living to the south of our town (including Flackwell Heath)
Will the residents of the "RAF Dawes Hill Village" have their own school, medical facilities, subsidised supermarket (which accepts only US dollars) petrol at US prices and have their own entertainment facility including dance facilities and a bowl?,or will they wish to use WDC's facilities, travel into town by car and increase the pressure on "our" facilities. IF the latter is true, then the proposed development is a nightmare for anybody living to the south of our town (including Flackwell Heath) Agniesca
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12:00pm Tue 9 Aug 11

sparky49 says...

TheHorsesMouth wrote:
@Sparky49; how do you get 700+ pupils and 200+ students from 100 military homes. Did every home have to have 7 children? Can you check our facts?
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A fair number of the 100 Military homes was for single people (i.e. un-attached.un-accom

panied) and the vast majority of those did not have any children, at least not in this country.
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For the last couple of years the married quarters (i.e. family size homes) on the base have been in use primarily by British Forces personnel and their families. They use local schools (or boarding schools) and as a percentage of the population have more children because there are no OAPs or unaccompanied singles in family (formally referred to as married) quarters,...
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Read things carefully before you comment. I said there also upto 15 coaches a day bringing pupils and personel from around the area. 15 x 52 seater. You do the maths. I was being constructive and pointing out that there would not be much difference with 500 houses. Some posts on here see where I am coming from although as usual the majority want to pick holes.
[quote][p][bold]TheHorsesMouth[/bold] wrote: @Sparky49; how do you get 700+ pupils and 200+ students from 100 military homes. Did every home have to have 7 children? Can you check our facts? ... A fair number of the 100 Military homes was for single people (i.e. un-attached.un-accom panied) and the vast majority of those did not have any children, at least not in this country. ... For the last couple of years the married quarters (i.e. family size homes) on the base have been in use primarily by British Forces personnel and their families. They use local schools (or boarding schools) and as a percentage of the population have more children because there are no OAPs or unaccompanied singles in family (formally referred to as married) quarters,... ...[/p][/quote]Read things carefully before you comment. I said there also upto 15 coaches a day bringing pupils and personel from around the area. 15 x 52 seater. You do the maths. I was being constructive and pointing out that there would not be much difference with 500 houses. Some posts on here see where I am coming from although as usual the majority want to pick holes. sparky49
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