Lane End Parish Council chairman says stadium process is "corrupted"

Bucks Free Press: Chairman says stadium process is "corrupted" Chairman says stadium process is "corrupted"

THE CHAIRMAN of Lane End Parish Council has accused the stadium consultation process of being “corrupted”, at a meeting last night.

Cllr Graeme Coulter spoke about the results of the public consultation on the Wycombe Community Stadium which were published last week by Wycombe District Council.

It showed a majority were in favour of the stadium and sports village and in favour of the stadium at Wycombe Air Park in Booker.

Speaking to councillors at the meeting on Tuesday he said: “Voting patterns raise serious questions about the extent to which the consultation process has been corrupted. I won't call it corrupt but corrupted. I don't think it reflects in any way public opinion.”

Cllr Coulter said “we are all aware” Wycombe Wanderers' Football club, Wasps and the university encouraged voting in the consistencies within their influence.

He said a Freedom of Information request was made for full list of responses made by individuals which WDC co-operated with and those individual responses are being looked at.

The parish council has also requested a copy of the electoral register to see if they can relate the individual responses with the register but WDC has refused to make the register available, although it did say it could have the register for the Lane End Parish.

Spokesman for WDC Catherine Spalton said: “We had a request for a copy of the electoral register for the whole district from the clerk of the Parish Council. They were told that parish councillors are entitled to a copy of the electoral register for their parish only and that this request should be made directly to the Democratic Services Team Leader. (For reference, district councillors are only entitled to a copy of the electoral register for their ward.)

“A copy of the full register is available for inspection, on request, at our offices.”

Cllr Mike Detsiny said polls on the Bucks Free Press website showed a very different response than the consultation received, as did the survey carried out by Wycombe District councillors Jean Teesdale and Ian McEnnis in Lane End, which showed about 90 per cent wanted the stadium to stay at Adams Park.

The results of the consultation will go to full cabinet meeting on Monday when the next stage will be discussed.

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5:29pm Wed 12 Jan 11

Savelaneend says...

I agree completely with the thoughts and comments of both Cllrs Coulter and Detsiny. The refusal to give the electorial register as usual is just another blocking tactic. WDC need to understand we will not give up our green belt and will give up without a serious fight. This will go national soon I'm sure so WDC councillors will need to get off the fence and make up their minds about which type of politician they would like to be remembered as.
I agree completely with the thoughts and comments of both Cllrs Coulter and Detsiny. The refusal to give the electorial register as usual is just another blocking tactic. WDC need to understand we will not give up our green belt and will give up without a serious fight. This will go national soon I'm sure so WDC councillors will need to get off the fence and make up their minds about which type of politician they would like to be remembered as. Savelaneend
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5:37pm Wed 12 Jan 11

gpn01 says...

"The results of the consultation will go to full cabinet meeting on Monday when the next stage will be discussed. "

That's presuming that the current spending plans are approved at this evening's council meeting?

The next stage, if anything, is for an independent review of the conduct and results of the consultation process to be undertaken. THEN a proper consultation with the community, which will involve the proposals (with details and facts) being given to all lcoal ratepayers. Then an appropriate consultation period (at least 12 weeks) should be used. This would include an independently run and audited poll of the WDC electorate and a residents panel, made up of a sensible percentage and repesentation of ratepayers, should be engaged to set out (1) what questions should be asked (thereby allowing question 1 to be 'should the proposal be stopped now?' rather than the presumptive close questions currently used. Then (2) another panel of representatives from across the district should be co-ordinated, using an organisation that's more appropriately sized to undertake such work instead of using a one man operation, to provide recommendations that would form part of the review that the FULL Council would then vote on.
Will it take a long time to do this ? Yes but it means that the decision will be aligned fairly with what ratepayers want and won't be hijacked by someone's desire to keep a London rugby team playing locally.
"The results of the consultation will go to full cabinet meeting on Monday when the next stage will be discussed. " That's presuming that the current spending plans are approved at this evening's council meeting? The next stage, if anything, is for an independent review of the conduct and results of the consultation process to be undertaken. THEN a proper consultation with the community, which will involve the proposals (with details and facts) being given to all lcoal ratepayers. Then an appropriate consultation period (at least 12 weeks) should be used. This would include an independently run and audited poll of the WDC electorate and a residents panel, made up of a sensible percentage and repesentation of ratepayers, should be engaged to set out (1) what questions should be asked (thereby allowing question 1 to be 'should the proposal be stopped now?' rather than the presumptive close questions currently used. Then (2) another panel of representatives from across the district should be co-ordinated, using an organisation that's more appropriately sized to undertake such work instead of using a one man operation, to provide recommendations that would form part of the review that the FULL Council would then vote on. Will it take a long time to do this ? Yes but it means that the decision will be aligned fairly with what ratepayers want and won't be hijacked by someone's desire to keep a London rugby team playing locally. gpn01
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10:10pm Wed 12 Jan 11

Ewartwhatyoubulldoze says...

Savelaneend wrote:
I agree completely with the thoughts and comments of both Cllrs Coulter and Detsiny. The refusal to give the electorial register as usual is just another blocking tactic. WDC need to understand we will not give up our green belt and will give up without a serious fight. This will go national soon I'm sure so WDC councillors will need to get off the fence and make up their minds about which type of politician they would like to be remembered as.
A rigged survey and twisted analysis to justify carving up the greenbelt?
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Now where have I heard that before?
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Good luck Lane End and keep on fighting.
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Councillors at all levels seem to think that using 'any means necessary' to push through developments that their electorate simply doesn't want, is acceptable behaviour. It isn't.
[quote][p][bold]Savelaneend[/bold] wrote: I agree completely with the thoughts and comments of both Cllrs Coulter and Detsiny. The refusal to give the electorial register as usual is just another blocking tactic. WDC need to understand we will not give up our green belt and will give up without a serious fight. This will go national soon I'm sure so WDC councillors will need to get off the fence and make up their minds about which type of politician they would like to be remembered as.[/p][/quote]A rigged survey and twisted analysis to justify carving up the greenbelt? - Now where have I heard that before? - Good luck Lane End and keep on fighting. - Councillors at all levels seem to think that using 'any means necessary' to push through developments that their electorate simply doesn't want, is acceptable behaviour. It isn't. Ewartwhatyoubulldoze
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12:08am Thu 13 Jan 11

wayneo says...

Graeme's a good man as is Mike and they strike a good balance. If anybody is dispondent with politics, they should go to a Lane End Parish meeting to understand that all is not yet lost, there is still a democracy. They might 'only' be a Parish Council and we might not agree on everything but it is exceptionally well chaired and the public have a right to speak and are listened to, whatever is on the agenda.

Lane End are very very lucky.
Graeme's a good man as is Mike and they strike a good balance. If anybody is dispondent with politics, they should go to a Lane End Parish meeting to understand that all is not yet lost, there is still a democracy. They might 'only' be a Parish Council and we might not agree on everything but it is exceptionally well chaired and the public have a right to speak and are listened to, whatever is on the agenda. Lane End are very very lucky. wayneo
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