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Transport supremo backs radical road plan

Cllr Wilson points the way forward for Marlow's roads Cllr Wilson points the way forward for Marlow's roads

A RADICAL experiment to revolutionise driving by scrapping street signs and traffic lights has been supported by transport supremo Val Letheren.

Cllr Letheren, cabinet member for transport at Buckinghamshire County Council, said she would be “interested to have talks” after Wycombe District Council chairman Roger Wilson proposed the idea of 'naked streets' in Marlow.

As revealed on Bucksfreepress.co.uk this week, Cllr Wilson put forward the idea which aims to make drivers think for themselves, at a Marlow Town Council meeting.

It has been trialled in Kensington High Street in London and Bohmte, a town in Germany.

He highlighted the research of author Tom Vanderbilt in his book: 'Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do'.

Mr Vanderbilt's work was influenced by late Dutch traffic engineer Hans Monderman, who believed that most road signs were unnecessary and redesigned a town based on his ideas.

Cllr Wilson said: “I hope we can use Marlow as an experiment. Hopefully it would be a success and we could extend it through the county. We can make it work.

“I would have it all the way throughout the town. We would try to remove every sign going. “ “Within the law of the land, I'm quite happy to do away with the traffic lights.

"If we are doing it experimentally we would leave them where they are at the moment and just switch them off. I don't think there would be any chaos.”

The proposal comes in the same week that Transport Minister Rosie Winterton announced the biggest review of British road signs for 40 years.

Cllr Letheren said: “Generally I support it, I don't like cluttered streets. I have met the man involved in the Kensington experiment.

“It wasn't always easy there, it's got its down sides but we would be interested to have talks with them. It is a good idea but it has to be looked at carefully.”

Cllr Wilson said: “The accident rate was reduced substantially where the trials have taken place because people are no longer on automatic pilot.”

Despite around 13,000 vehicles navigating the roads in Bohmte, Germany, there have been no accidents since the trial began in July.

Comments(10)

ivor says...
7:56pm Thu 18 Sep 08

Marlow may have a problem with road signs but Wycombe has a major problem with traffic lights.

It would be great if some of Wycombe’s traffic lights could be replaced with roundabouts so the traffic could flow freely once again.

Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “YOUR SAY” link at the top of the page then click on “BLOGS”.

Plus ça change... says...
9:09pm Thu 18 Sep 08

Nice to see it trialled locally.

Glad it's been given the green light.



Observer of says...
10:29pm Thu 18 Sep 08

Why not get rid of all the road signs and only put those back when people complain.

That should keep road signs to a minimum!

ivor says...
12:18am Fri 19 Sep 08

Could this be a cost cutting exercise in disguise?

If the powers that be don’t have to provide road signs think of all the money they will save.

Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the “YOUR SAY” link at the top of the page then click on “BLOGS”.

Observer of says...
8:25am Fri 19 Sep 08

Stop being an idiot Ivor.

Elmo says...
8:38am Fri 19 Sep 08

Observer of wrote:
Stop being an idiot Ivor.
It is his trade nark style...

Elmo says...
8:39am Fri 19 Sep 08

trade mark, I meant trade mark.

Oh bother!

Mutley says...
9:02am Fri 19 Sep 08

An excellent scheme which I fully back. However, I can't think of many traffic lights in Marlow apart from the pedestrian crossings. Similar experiments also include getting rid of white lines (which removes the "my right-of-way" mentality) and, in residential roads, blurring the distinction between road and pavement. But at least it's a start.
Unlike Wycombe where they've installed temporary traffic lights in Gordon Road for a piece of road works of less than a car's length. This is totally unnecessary and caused queues back to the Bowerdean traffic lights (also unnecessary!) this morning.

john_b says...
9:30am Fri 19 Sep 08

Sounds great - I say trash all signs and road-markings etc and leave safe driving to good old common sense.

Just leave the map signs up so I know where I'm going though! Otherwise I'll end up hopelessly lost!

What about NO ENTRY and ONE WAY signs? Should these stay?

By the way, Elmo, 1983 called - they want their 'Oh bother' remark back. ;-)

Elmo says...
11:13am Fri 19 Sep 08

Welcome to it, I've just realised I've picked it up from a rather nerdy colleague.

Anyway, as for common-sense, this morning as I cycled past a parked car up Desborough Avenue I was overtaken by a car, who was being overtaken by another car, as we approached a right hand bend with a removals van parked on the apex...

For some people signs, traffic lights and white lines (and double yellows) mean absolutely nothing anyway, so what difference would removing them make.

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