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What happened to our English traditions? (From Bucks Free Press)
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What happened to our English traditions?
12:24am Sunday 11th March 2012 in Your Say By ivor
This week Saturday morning started as normal.
After rising at 9.30am it was straight down stairs to eat breakfast and read the daily newspaper.
When lunchtime came I tucked into a hearty meal of traditional fish and chips before going out into the garden in the afternoon.
If it had been a little later in the year with warmer weather I would have partaken in the quintessentially British activity of cutting the lawn on a Saturday afternoon however the conditions are not quite there yet so I did some weeding in the long flower border.
Soon it was tea time so yours truly duly went indoors and tucked into sponge cakes and some orange squash before retiring to my favourite arm chair to sit, while wearing my slippers, to finish off reading the paper.
I think it can be said that so far I have enjoyed a traditional English weekend.
With tomorrow being Sunday I will treat it as a day of rest. Once upon a time shops closed on a Sunday but now most of them are open for business.
All too often the activities that can be looked upon as traditional English activities are being slowly and steadily worn away and now English culture is being diluted and changed with every day that passes.
On Saturday evening a news article appeared on this site entitled “Regatta fireworks and concert axed” which stated that the fireworks and concert which have been part of Marlow regatta since 1891 are not taking place this year.
Events like village fêtes, regattas and fairs are all part of our cultural heritage and the news concerning the Marlow regatta is one more nail in the coffin for our long running traditions.
Our very own Wycombe show finished years ago and when it comes to parades and displays in the town centre there is very little done by the native townspeople.
Even when it comes to dress attitudes have changed.
How many men still wear a proper cap or hat or how many men still polish their shoes every evening? Not many I fear.
Food is another area where traditional dishes have been put to one side in favour of American style fast food with burgers, shakes and fries or even dishes from other countries.
Only last week one of the youngsters at work asked me if I wanted a shake with my sandwiches, not realising what they meant I told them that I wanted to be perfectly steady when eating and asked them not to touch me while I enjoyed my lunch.
In my opinion our society is in decline both morally and culturally.
The loss of community events and long running ways of going on is just one manifestation of the slow and steady slip further into the abyss.
What do you think?
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Comments(113)
Alberto The Great
says...
10:48am Sun 11 Mar 12
Something that you're often averse to doing, especially when it comes to the "Historical" Bigun family of High Wycombe.
Also, you never tell the truth about going to the library in regards to the muster role records showing an entry for members of the Bigun family...
It's all lies Ivor.
Sanders the Telephone Butler
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2:48pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Surely lawn mowing is an activity for a SUNDAY - traditionally Englishmen are out of their minds on Saturdays.
Sanders the Telephone Butler
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2:49pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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What a hilarious story - ha ha ha ha!
ivor
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2:55pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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But I can't cook. The fish and chips were a ready meal that came from my freezer. I just put them in the hot cupboard and took them out after the specified time. They were a little over done though but I am so hungry that I am glad to eat anything.
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It sees I have made a spelling mistake by using the word show rather then shoe. I will correct it....
ivor
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2:55pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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But I always tell the truth indeed my friends call me “honest Ivor”.
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I can assure you that my family have lived here for many hundreds of years.
ivor
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2:59pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Sunday is a day of rest and reading the papers. Saturday is for outdoor jobs and moving the lawn.
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Many years ago we used to cut the lawn daily to keep the fine fescues in tip-top shape but sadly I no longer have the money for the petrol to run the historic mower every day.
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Sometimes the lawn is cut on a Friday if guests are expected on the Saturday.
ivor
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3:00pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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It wasn't very funny at the time, I really thought they were going to shake me while I tucked into my lunch....
Sanders the Telephone Butler
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3:01pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Of course.
Re the comments of Sanders the Telephone Butler at 2:49pm
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It wasn't very funny at the time, I really thought they were going to shake me while I tucked into my lunch....
ivor
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3:03pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Do you doubt me?
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I'm not up with all these newfangled modern words and a “shake” can have several meanings....
Alberto The Great
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3:11pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:That first sentence is a total lie, as has been proven many times.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 10:48am
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But I always tell the truth indeed my friends call me “honest Ivor”.
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I can assure you that my family have lived here for many hundreds of years.
You're family? We're talking about the existence of a 'Bigun' in this area, going back hundreds of years. Not 'your' family.
ivor
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3:15pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Well, my family lineage can be traced back many hundreds of years and they have been living in and around Wycombe all that time.
Alberto The Great
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3:20pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:But what about a family by the name of Bigun?
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:11pm
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Well, my family lineage can be traced back many hundreds of years and they have been living in and around Wycombe all that time.
ivor
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3:24pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Why do you doubt me?
Alberto The Great
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3:25pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Because you tell lies.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:20pm
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Why do you doubt me?
ivor
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3:30pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Not at all.
Alberto The Great
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3:33pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Then tell us all:
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:25pm
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Not at all.
Why are there no records at all of any family by the name of Bigun, in High Wycombe or any surrounding areas, yet you repeatedly state that there has been for hundreds of years.
ivor
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3:36pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I don't know. Maybe you are not looking in the right place?
Alberto The Great
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3:36pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Yet again... more lies...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:33pm
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I don't know. Maybe you are not looking in the right place?
ivor
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3:39pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Not at all.
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Next you'll be saying that Bigun Hall doesn't exist either!
Alberto The Great
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3:40pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Does it?
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:36pm
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Not at all.
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Next you'll be saying that Bigun Hall doesn't exist either!
Does it really exist?
ivor
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3:43pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Of course it does, after all I'm sitting in the grey drawing room at the very moment penning the draft for my next column in the printed version of the Bucks Free Press. No doubt you will be reading it next Friday when it is published....
Alberto The Great
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3:49pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor
says...
3:55pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Why do you doubt me? Why is this so important?
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If I do not exist then who is writing this? Of course the Hall exists after all I live there!
Alberto The Great
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3:58pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:OK....
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:49pm
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Why do you doubt me? Why is this so important?
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If I do not exist then who is writing this? Of course the Hall exists after all I live there!
I think the point has been proven beyond doubt.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
ivor
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4:17pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Not at all....
Alberto The Great
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4:19pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:If that is so, then;
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 3:58pm
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Not at all....
Would you swear an oath on the lives of all employees of the BFP, that there has been a family by the name of Bigun, living for hundreds of years in High Wycombe, and that there is a real house called Bigun Hall in High Wycome?
ivor
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5:11pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I fail to see why you are so concerned about this.
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Surely the loss of our English customs and traditions is more worrying?
Alberto The Great
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5:13pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Just establishing the fact that most of what you write is lies....
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 4:19pm
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I fail to see why you are so concerned about this.
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Surely the loss of our English customs and traditions is more worrying?
Unless of course, you'd be willing to swear the oath above....
But that's obviously not going to happen, because you lie.
Alberto The Great
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5:19pm Sun 11 Mar 12
Ivor does this every week.
Then he goes on to spout rhetoric about English Traditions being lost, whilst maintaining his background of lies.
ivor
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5:24pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I fail to see what you are achieving.
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The only reason you would try to discredit me is because you are afraid of what I say and you don't want anyone else to read it.
ivor
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5:24pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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The loss of English traditions must be worrying for everyone. I suppose you would like to see them all disappear and watch as our culture goes down the pan....
Alberto The Great
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5:31pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Just establishing the fact that you continually write lies.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 5:13pm
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I fail to see what you are achieving.
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The only reason you would try to discredit me is because you are afraid of what I say and you don't want anyone else to read it.
As you have not intention of proving otherwise, my job is done.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
Alberto The Great
says...
5:32pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:I'd like to see you tell the truth about the Bigun Family, and Bigun Hall...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 5:19pm
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The loss of English traditions must be worrying for everyone. I suppose you would like to see them all disappear and watch as our culture goes down the pan....
ivor
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5:37pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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You must think me a real threat to carry on such a concerted campaign?
ivor
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5:37pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I can assure you that Bigun Hall does exist together with the south pavilion, old orchard, formal lawns, grey drawing room, billiards/games room, music room and my trusty historic cars.
Alberto The Great
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5:47pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Then you'll have no problem with the oath above...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 5:32pm
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I can assure you that Bigun Hall does exist together with the south pavilion, old orchard, formal lawns, grey drawing room, billiards/games room, music room and my trusty historic cars.
Come on then Ivor, let's see you declare the oath as stated above...
ivor
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8:25pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I don't know why you are keeping on about this.
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My ancestors have lived in and around Wycombe for many hundreds of years and I have a house also in Wycombe. That is all there is to say....
Alberto The Great
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10:44pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:That may be true, but the original questions are still valid.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 5:47pm
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I don't know why you are keeping on about this.
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My ancestors have lived in and around Wycombe for many hundreds of years and I have a house also in Wycombe. That is all there is to say....
Alberto The Great
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10:48pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:So...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 5:47pm
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I don't know why you are keeping on about this.
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My ancestors have lived in and around Wycombe for many hundreds of years and I have a house also in Wycombe. That is all there is to say....
If everything is the truth, then declare the oath...
Or have you been telling all of us lies?
ivor
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10:54pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I am sorry but I am not going to be entrapped by your little game.
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Do you have any input on the main topic of this blog, i.e. the loss of our English traditions?
ivor
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10:55pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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But everything I have said is true!
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I see that Tom, from Marlow, who used to be one of our regular contributors has left a comment on the news story about the Olympic flame saying that he dislikes my use of the name Bigun. Are you unhappy about it too? Is that why you are constantly posting your challenges to me? Would it help if I dropped the Bigun?
Alberto The Great
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11:11pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:There is no entrapment here Ivor.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 10:44pm
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I am sorry but I am not going to be entrapped by your little game.
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Do you have any input on the main topic of this blog, i.e. the loss of our English traditions?
This is purely establishing the difference between facts and lies.
If you are unable to pledge a simple oath, then it becomes obvious to all that you have been telling us lies all along.
ImpeturbableLawrence
says...
11:12pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:No help at all - you'd still be EVIL!
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 10:48pm
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But everything I have said is true!
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I see that Tom, from Marlow, who used to be one of our regular contributors has left a comment on the news story about the Olympic flame saying that he dislikes my use of the name Bigun. Are you unhappy about it too? Is that why you are constantly posting your challenges to me? Would it help if I dropped the Bigun?
Alberto The Great
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11:16pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:I have no problem with your choice of using a fictional name with deliberate innuendo.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 10:48pm
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But everything I have said is true!
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I see that Tom, from Marlow, who used to be one of our regular contributors has left a comment on the news story about the Olympic flame saying that he dislikes my use of the name Bigun. Are you unhappy about it too? Is that why you are constantly posting your challenges to me? Would it help if I dropped the Bigun?
My issue with you is your constant insistence that everything you say is the truth, but logic dictates otherwise.
Logic, combined with you reluctance to answer questions directly, or even pledge a simple oath only proves my point that you have been lying.
ivor
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11:21pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Why do I need to pledge a silly oath?
ivor
says...
11:21pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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It seems that whatever I do I can not win....
ivor
says...
11:21pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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But my friends all know me as Bigun, probably due to my terrible problem with obesity which sadly is something that has blighted my family for generations....
ImpeturbableLawrence
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11:23pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Yes.
Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 11:12pm
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It seems that whatever I do I can not win....
ivor
says...
11:25pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Then there is not point in me even bothering to engage with Alberto further as I can not win. It seems you have therefore negated the purpose of your own posts....
ImpeturbableLawrence
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11:26pm Sun 11 Mar 12
Alberto The Great
says...
11:26pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:"probably due to my terrible problem with obesity"????????
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 11:16pm
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But my friends all know me as Bigun, probably due to my terrible problem with obesity which sadly is something that has blighted my family for generations....
Are you finally admitting that this is NOT your family name?
ivor
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11:28pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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I fear you have lost....
ivor
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11:28pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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As I have said many times there have been Biguns in Wycombe for hundreds of years and they were all obese....
Alberto The Great
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11:29pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:You could win if you pledged the oath above.
Re the comments of ImpeturbableLawrence at 11:23pm
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Then there is not point in me even bothering to engage with Alberto further as I can not win. It seems you have therefore negated the purpose of your own posts....
Then I would never have cause to doubt you ever again.
ivor
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11:35pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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And if I take the oath you will believe my word? As you doubt everything that I say then how could you even believe me if I were to take the oath? Surely in the world as you see it your argument is self defeating....
Alberto The Great
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11:38pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Try me...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 11:29pm
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And if I take the oath you will believe my word? As you doubt everything that I say then how could you even believe me if I were to take the oath? Surely in the world as you see it your argument is self defeating....
State the oath, as above, and I will leave you alone.
ivor
says...
11:48pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Well, at least reading about the oath makes a change from hearing about the Muster Roll.
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If I take the oath will you forget about the Muster Roll?
Alberto The Great
says...
11:49pm Sun 11 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Yes
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 11:38pm
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Well, at least reading about the oath makes a change from hearing about the Muster Roll.
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If I take the oath will you forget about the Muster Roll?
ivor
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11:55pm Sun 11 Mar 12
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Do you know that I have seriously considered taking the oath but then, as you said, you will go away and leave me alone.
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I kind of like hearing from you indeed I count you as one of my friends so at this point in time I will not take the oath....
Alberto The Great
says...
12:01am Mon 12 Mar 12
However, if you are true to your words, and everything that you have said is the truth, then there should be no hesitation in your stating that oath.
Dr James
says...
10:11am Mon 12 Mar 12
dtap
says...
11:01am Mon 12 Mar 12
s? No Internet? Only B+W 405-lines TV? Overt, legal racism and sexism? (I could go on). Admittedly, no-one wearing horrific sportswear, true, but otherwise it`s wonderful to wave goodbye to all that, "traditional" or otherwise, thanks.
ImpeturbableLawrence
says...
12:27pm Mon 12 Mar 12
dtap wrote:Hear hear!
Whether ivor is a woman or indeed an evil alien, if he wants to return to the grim, grey 1950`s or thereabouts then he`s most welcome. What? No curry/garlic/chillie
s? No Internet? Only B+W 405-lines TV? Overt, legal racism and sexism? (I could go on). Admittedly, no-one wearing horrific sportswear, true, but otherwise it`s wonderful to wave goodbye to all that, "traditional" or otherwise, thanks.
Biggy Dave
says...
4:05pm Mon 12 Mar 12
http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/958
3122.Man_shot_in_the
_leg/?ref=mr
ivor
says...
8:22pm Mon 12 Mar 12
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Well, I do consider you as a friend.
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I don't see why you continue to disbelieve me so.
ivor
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8:23pm Mon 12 Mar 12
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Thank you for your valued comment.
ivor
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8:23pm Mon 12 Mar 12
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Ah, those were the days.
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Do you remember when BBC2 started in the evening and for the main part of the day is just showed a test card? For what I have seen on the programmes currently on in the daytime the test card would be more interesting.
ivor
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8:25pm Mon 12 Mar 12
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Well, I would never have guessed that knowing what I have for lunch would turn out to be so popular. Maybe I should put the contents of my lunch box on every blog that I write?
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To put everyone out of their misery for lunch today I ate six ham rolls and two bars of chocolate which was washed down with two pints of still squash and a pint bottle of fizzy cola. For my tea when I arrived home I devoured a whole packet of cream crunch biscuits and just to be healthy the biscuits were washed down with a small pack of orange juice.
Alberto The Great
says...
8:26pm Mon 12 Mar 12
ivor wrote:As you seem to be 100% sure that you have never lied about the Bigun Family, or Bigun Hall, then you should have no problem at all with the oath stated above.
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 12:01am
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Well, I do consider you as a friend.
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I don't see why you continue to disbelieve me so.
What's the problem Ivor?
ImpeturbableLawrence
says...
8:27pm Mon 12 Mar 12
ivor wrote:This is sarcastic stuff - I should think there has been a lot of fish paste in his sandwiches (fish = brain food.)
Re the comments of dtap at 11:01am
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Ah, those were the days.
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Do you remember when BBC2 started in the evening and for the main part of the day is just showed a test card? For what I have seen on the programmes currently on in the daytime the test card would be more interesting.
Biggy Dave
says...
10:51am Tue 13 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Six Ham rolls! Good skills! I have you down as a corn beef for todays, it's at 5/1 and thats great odds!
Re the comments of Biggy Dave at 4:05pm
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Well, I would never have guessed that knowing what I have for lunch would turn out to be so popular. Maybe I should put the contents of my lunch box on every blog that I write?
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To put everyone out of their misery for lunch today I ate six ham rolls and two bars of chocolate which was washed down with two pints of still squash and a pint bottle of fizzy cola. For my tea when I arrived home I devoured a whole packet of cream crunch biscuits and just to be healthy the biscuits were washed down with a small pack of orange juice.
Thamed
says...
11:01am Tue 13 Mar 12
Biggy Dave
says...
11:06am Tue 13 Mar 12
Thamed wrote:..but please tell us after lunch.
IVOR, PLEASE, PLEASE WRITE ABOUT THE HOSEPIPE BAN....MY PANSIES ARE WILTING ALREADY. £1000 FINE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? WILL THERE BE A HOTLINE TO REPORT NEIGHBOURS? I AM SO WORRIED ABOUT MY GARDEN PLASE REASSURE ME.
Sanders the Telephone Butler
says...
11:08am Tue 13 Mar 12
Biggy Dave
says...
11:18am Tue 13 Mar 12
Sanders the Telephone Butler wrote:Because we all want to know what he has today.
Why wait till after lunch?
Thamed
says...
11:53am Tue 13 Mar 12
Alberto The Great
says...
3:59pm Tue 13 Mar 12
Thamed wrote:I think Sparkling Perrier maybe the best one to use on the 6 acre manicured lawns...
I am too worried I cant even stomach a sandwich please Ivor hurry up and save our pansies with your wisdom! Can I use bottled water instead to water the garden?
Still bottled water from mount Fuji on the roses.
totteridge51
says...
11:07pm Tue 13 Mar 12
Friday night with friends at the pub for a good old laugh and drink, Saturday up the town afternoon play football for a team then to the pub for a drink. Sunday play football again then to the pub for a laugh and drink.
Sunday afternoon either swimming at the pool or walk around the Rye and a boat ride on the Dyke. Younger years bike ride to Marlow or Cookham to fish on the Thames.
ImpeturbableLawrence
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11:38pm Tue 13 Mar 12
ImpeturbableLawrence
says...
11:45pm Tue 13 Mar 12
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=JY1J7rC7h
44&feature=related
ivor
says...
11:46pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Thank you for your valued comment!
ivor
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11:46pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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As I have said before I do not like fish paste.
ivor
says...
11:46pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Indeed I did have six rolls yesterday, I am gradually cutting back as once upon a time I would eat more.
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You will have to look at my latest blog to find out what I had for lunch today....
ivor
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11:47pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Just for you my latest blog is on the topic of the hosepipe ban.
ivor
says...
11:47pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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The only things that is more important than my lunch is my blog....
ivor
says...
11:47pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Because I am usually hungry before lunch....
ivor
says...
11:47pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Ready my latest blog to find out what I had for lunch today!
ivor
says...
11:47pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Yes, bottled water will not do any harm if you water the garden with it however it is not as good as rainwater.
ivor
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11:48pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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Its a shame they do not do bottled Wycombe water....
ivor
says...
11:48pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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As you say the traditional fish and chip shops have all closed down which is a terrible shame.
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I don't know why someone doesn't open a fish and chip shop in Wycombe, I'm sure it would do well....
ivor
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11:48pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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The football is acceptable but I'm not sure about visiting a pub afterwards....
ivor
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11:51pm Tue 13 Mar 12
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That's about a Scottish tradition and not an English one....
Alberto The Great
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12:02am Wed 14 Mar 12
ivor wrote:Ivor, I see that you're now reverting to your standard cop-out phrase...
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 8:26pm
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Thank you for your valued comment!
The phrase you often use when you can no longer think of an answer.
This only proves that you do not have the conviction to back-up your words.
We can only deduce from this that you are in fact... A LIAR
The Walker
says...
8:39am Thu 15 Mar 12
The mark of a true gent.
I tip my hat, sir!
sai-diva
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11:26am Thu 15 Mar 12
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
usvelt
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4:14pm Thu 15 Mar 12
sai-diva wrote:I Like Alberto - he keeps igiot straight.
Alberto, me old mate, YAWN!, you've made your point, over and over and over again,well done, it started off as mildly amusing and is now just boring. Change the record eh?
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
Go for it Alberto.
J B Blackett
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4:41pm Thu 15 Mar 12
sai-diva wrote:I don't know if it's racist but , all over the country , these festivals have been 'commandeered' or even 'hijacked' by unappointed self interest groups - to the exclusion of the majority of most people.
Alberto, me old mate, YAWN!, you've made your point, over and over and over again,well done, it started off as mildly amusing and is now just boring. Change the record eh?
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
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And it is I am afraid really mostly about certain groups of people making money ( sometimes lots of it ) out of their audiences or spectators.
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There again you can't provide live all-round entertainment for everybody without some people decrying that and calling it bland or worse. Like the low-grade stuff on TV nowadays.
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Some people will just eat what's put in front of them - like junk food. The same applies to entertainment , I'm afraid. No talent is needed for these 'talent' shows.
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The UK aspiration in this arena is at a low ebb at the moment ; and I don't know what the answer is. But it's not the exploiter Simon Cowell or even with free junk trans-fat food from KFC thrown in.
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Still it looks like a nice Spring day out there at the moment.
J B Blackett
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4:46pm Thu 15 Mar 12
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My mistake - I do hope I won't do it again. Sorry folks
Morag
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5:42pm Thu 15 Mar 12
J B Blackett wrote:I do hope you will :-) Please, JBB. I asked nicely.
Oops I've done it again and added a commented on that Ima Bigot's blog - what a nasty s**t-stirring piece of work he / she / it is. . My mistake - I do hope I won't do it again. Sorry folks
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I too am fed up with the yawn-inducing boring comments from "other quarters". They have made their point. Endlessly.
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I fear they will never realise that Ivor will just carry on as usual despite their attempted hi-jacking of his blog and filling of his coffers.
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As regards village fetes, fayres etc., isn't part of the problem good old-fashioned apathy? Many of us are quick to complain about their decline, but how many put themselves forward to organise such an event? So many people live such "busy" lives, they haven't the time or energy or the inclination to contribute.
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Ivor has frequently complained over the years that there is "nothing to do" in Wycombe. Many time I have pointed out forthcoming events but he is always otherwise engaged. I have seen Clairabella inviting him to events she has helped to organise but he has never reported back. You challenged him about the lunchtime concerts yourself, JBB.
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If Ivor really cared he would find out what is going on, blog about the events, make the effort to attend a few and report back.
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Still, we could always discuss his sandwich fillings instead. Btw, I think you will find he can afford to shop at Marks & Spencers Foodhall, not Tesco's Basic range.
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Oh dear, JBB. I see what you mean.... I seem to have got sucked in again too :-))
Lorrainej
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6:42pm Thu 15 Mar 12
Morag wrote:Nice one Morag, welcome home, hope you had a good trip.
J B Blackett wrote: Oops I've done it again and added a commented on that Ima Bigot's blog - what a nasty s**t-stirring piece of work he / she / it is. . My mistake - I do hope I won't do it again. Sorry folksI do hope you will :-) Please, JBB. I asked nicely. . I too am fed up with the yawn-inducing boring comments from "other quarters". They have made their point. Endlessly. . I fear they will never realise that Ivor will just carry on as usual despite their attempted hi-jacking of his blog and filling of his coffers. . As regards village fetes, fayres etc., isn't part of the problem good old-fashioned apathy? Many of us are quick to complain about their decline, but how many put themselves forward to organise such an event? So many people live such "busy" lives, they haven't the time or energy or the inclination to contribute. . Ivor has frequently complained over the years that there is "nothing to do" in Wycombe. Many time I have pointed out forthcoming events but he is always otherwise engaged. I have seen Clairabella inviting him to events she has helped to organise but he has never reported back. You challenged him about the lunchtime concerts yourself, JBB. . If Ivor really cared he would find out what is going on, blog about the events, make the effort to attend a few and report back. . Still, we could always discuss his sandwich fillings instead. Btw, I think you will find he can afford to shop at Marks & Spencers Foodhall, not Tesco's Basic range. . Oh dear, JBB. I see what you mean.... I seem to have got sucked in again too :-))
ImpeturbableLawrence
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11:36pm Thu 15 Mar 12
J B Blackett wrote:I think what I need is a youth club to keep me out of trouble.
sai-diva wrote:I don't know if it's racist but , all over the country , these festivals have been 'commandeered' or even 'hijacked' by unappointed self interest groups - to the exclusion of the majority of most people.
Alberto, me old mate, YAWN!, you've made your point, over and over and over again,well done, it started off as mildly amusing and is now just boring. Change the record eh?
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
.
And it is I am afraid really mostly about certain groups of people making money ( sometimes lots of it ) out of their audiences or spectators.
.
There again you can't provide live all-round entertainment for everybody without some people decrying that and calling it bland or worse. Like the low-grade stuff on TV nowadays.
.
Some people will just eat what's put in front of them - like junk food. The same applies to entertainment , I'm afraid. No talent is needed for these 'talent' shows.
.
The UK aspiration in this arena is at a low ebb at the moment ; and I don't know what the answer is. But it's not the exploiter Simon Cowell or even with free junk trans-fat food from KFC thrown in.
.
Still it looks like a nice Spring day out there at the moment.
J B Blackett
says...
1:09am Fri 16 Mar 12
Thamed
says...
1:29pm Fri 16 Mar 12
Morag
says...
1:44pm Fri 16 Mar 12
Lorrainej wrote:Thanks Lorraine. Very nice thank you. Hope you are well.
Morag wrote:Nice one Morag, welcome home, hope you had a good trip.J B Blackett wrote: Oops I've done it again and added a commented on that Ima Bigot's blog - what a nasty s**t-stirring piece of work he / she / it is. . My mistake - I do hope I won't do it again. Sorry folksI do hope you will :-) Please, JBB. I asked nicely. . I too am fed up with the yawn-inducing boring comments from "other quarters". They have made their point. Endlessly. . I fear they will never realise that Ivor will just carry on as usual despite their attempted hi-jacking of his blog and filling of his coffers. . As regards village fetes, fayres etc., isn't part of the problem good old-fashioned apathy? Many of us are quick to complain about their decline, but how many put themselves forward to organise such an event? So many people live such "busy" lives, they haven't the time or energy or the inclination to contribute. . Ivor has frequently complained over the years that there is "nothing to do" in Wycombe. Many time I have pointed out forthcoming events but he is always otherwise engaged. I have seen Clairabella inviting him to events she has helped to organise but he has never reported back. You challenged him about the lunchtime concerts yourself, JBB. . If Ivor really cared he would find out what is going on, blog about the events, make the effort to attend a few and report back. . Still, we could always discuss his sandwich fillings instead. Btw, I think you will find he can afford to shop at Marks & Spencers Foodhall, not Tesco's Basic range. . Oh dear, JBB. I see what you mean.... I seem to have got sucked in again too :-))
Morag
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1:45pm Fri 16 Mar 12
J B Blackett wrote:Oh dear, I am left handed. Any right handed volunteers?
I do partially agree - a good club (in the right hands) could do you (and everybody else) a service - and possibly prevent you getting into more trouble.
ImpeturbableLawrence
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5:22pm Fri 16 Mar 12
J B Blackett wrote:I have often thought a good clubbing session could be of assistance to you and keep you out of trouble as well.
I do partially agree - a good club (in the right hands) could do you (and everybody else) a service - and possibly prevent you getting into more trouble.
ImpeturbableLawrence
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5:45pm Fri 16 Mar 12
ImpeturbableLawrence wrote:I suppose I ought not to discourage you though – this is the first time you have attempted to be clever with words and it has not degenerated into a partly-alliterative word-spew.
J B Blackett wrote:I have often thought a good clubbing session could be of assistance to you and keep you out of trouble as well.
I do partially agree - a good club (in the right hands) could do you (and everybody else) a service - and possibly prevent you getting into more trouble.
LiarLiarPantsOnFire
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8:28am Sat 17 Mar 12
perhaps ivor doesnt want people to know who he really is?
is he hiding something?
Sanders the Telephone Butler
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9:44pm Sat 17 Mar 12
sai-diva wrote:When I was a student we used to go to a Chinese takeaway where the lady in charge could not say 'fried rice' - she would say 'flied lice' instead - we thought this was hilariously funny and she used to say it just to make us laugh even if we were ordering something completely different. (It was quite nice food as well.)
Alberto, me old mate, YAWN!, you've made your point, over and over and over again,well done, it started off as mildly amusing and is now just boring. Change the record eh?
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
ImpeturbableLawrence
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9:54pm Sat 17 Mar 12
ivor wrote:LIAR!
Re the comments of Alberto The Great at 10:48am
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But I always tell the truth indeed my friends call me “honest Ivor”.
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I can assure you that my family have lived here for many hundreds of years.
ImpeturbableLawrence
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9:58pm Sat 17 Mar 12
sai-diva wrote:But it's only because of people like Alberto and me repetitiously rubbishing the Blogger of Evil that he gets such a high comment rate. (By the way there is no such word as 'rascist'.)
Alberto, me old mate, YAWN!, you've made your point, over and over and over again,well done, it started off as mildly amusing and is now just boring. Change the record eh?
As for fish and chip shops, there's still one that I've been visiting for years and years in Desborough road, if you time it correctly, you will get a proper portion of fish and chips, in the very English style, cooked by a gentleman of Chinese extraction.Goes to show that you have to be a bit careful when harping on about 'English' traditions. The best Chippy for miles is in Thame and it's run by a Portugese family.
And as for why nothing ever happens in Wycombe for the locals, I think the blame for that falls squarely at the feet of the council, as they will do their best to stop anything like a festival in the town, and if they fail the old bill will prevent it happening by charging a fortune to police it.Unless of course you belong to some kind of minority, in which case you'll get their blessings, 'cos they(police and council) don't want to be accused of being, and i hate to bring this word into the conversation, rascist.
ImpeturbableLawrence
says...
10:02pm Sat 17 Mar 12
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gotanybiscuits? says...
5:45am Sun 11 Mar 12
So where did the fish & chips come from?
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Which "show" did you polish last night??