Investigate the real causes of these riots (From Bucks Free Press)

James just look around you there is plenty of evidence to prove that there is a God, everywhere you look you are surrounded by intelligent design, it’s not something that happened by accident, a big bang or evolution, oh and by the way they are both theories thought up by imperfect immortal man.
You disagree with Rev. Peter Simpson’s letter about the cause of the riots, in fact you impolitely referred to it as farrago of drivel, but you don’t explain what your alternative opinion on the cause of the riots, so how can argument be of any worth or value?
Remember Richard even though you turn 60 next week, it’s not too late to repent and turn to Jesus Christ for salvation.
I end my post with some words of wisdom from the Bible 1 Corinthians 3 verses 19-20
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain

Sorry typo in earlier post above, it should read imperfect mortal man at the end of paragraph one.

Dave, you seem to have missed the point of James's (not Richard's and it is rather impolite to get people's names wrong!) letter. He does not offer an alternative solution because he asks that we can investigate the causes, rather than offer the solution of everyone turning back to the Christian Protestant Church (although caveated by these should be the good churches, not the bad ones, although the bad ones are very difficult to spot).

What many of us pointed out is something that you and the Rev Simpson simply refuse to acknowledge.The Christian Protestant church does not have a monopoly on morality, and only if it did, could this be the only viable solution for a tiny minority of the population that actually rioted.

Your church has no relevance in my life, which I consider to be, on average, no better or worse than the average Christians, Muslims or Jews. However I appreciate that you can believe whatever you want, subject to you not patronising me by telling me I could be saved if I repent. I would be grateful if you would extend me the same consideration.......

Totteridge Dave wrote:
James just look around you there is plenty of evidence to prove that there is a God, everywhere you look you are surrounded by intelligent design, it’s not something that happened by accident, a big bang or evolution, oh and by the way they are both theories thought up by imperfect immortal man.
You disagree with Rev. Peter Simpson’s letter about the cause of the riots, in fact you impolitely referred to it as farrago of drivel, but you don’t explain what your alternative opinion on the cause of the riots, so how can argument be of any worth or value?
Remember Richard even though you turn 60 next week, it’s not too late to repent and turn to Jesus Christ for salvation.
I end my post with some words of wisdom from the Bible 1 Corinthians 3 verses 19-20
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain

Intelligent design? If 'God' created everything, he also created HIV, smallpox and malaria, all human specific diseases. Maybe we are making 'God' angry by curing these? Surely if he created them he wants them to survive and serve their purpose?
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And to quote Sir David Attenborough:
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My response is that when Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, that's going to make him blind. And , 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy'.

'... here I am, within a week of my 60th birthday, reading the farrago of drivel about the recent riots penned by Peter Simpson of the Free Methodist Church in Penn (‘Riots were due to loss of any fear of God’, letters August 26). '
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The internet is a great way of evangelising in the modern world.

The BFP site has certainly taken on a large number of Bible Bashers in the past few days hasn't it?
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Oh and I agree with Mr Cadle.

It all make for interesting reading.
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I am always amused by the "jesus said this, jesus said that" claims. He didn't. He spoke some old aramaic language and hardly anyone at that time could write so none of it was written down till sometime later. What we think of as the bible and is usually quoted was translated from latin in the 17th century and had been thorugh greek before that.
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Just imagine reading one of Ivors blogs to your children and them doing likewise to theirs through several generations, then your great-great-great-gr
eat grandchildren writing it down in chinese then having it translated back into english a couple of thousand years later.
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I guarantee that Ivor would come across as a thin man who always wore jeans, trainers and a tee shirt, drove a prius and loved his beer

tom.marlow2 wrote:
It all make for interesting reading.
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I am always amused by the "jesus said this, jesus said that" claims. He didn't. He spoke some old aramaic language and hardly anyone at that time could write so none of it was written down till sometime later. What we think of as the bible and is usually quoted was translated from latin in the 17th century and had been thorugh greek before that.
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Just imagine reading one of Ivors blogs to your children and them doing likewise to theirs through several generations, then your great-great-great-gr

eat grandchildren writing it down in chinese then having it translated back into english a couple of thousand years later.
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I guarantee that Ivor would come across as a thin man who always wore jeans, trainers and a tee shirt, drove a prius and loved his beer

This sounds like fun, I will hasten the process by putting his blog through google translate in various different languages, see if it gets any more interesting.

I think it's an improvement.
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"When one of his age at the end of September (Friday) was a sad day for me.

60W bulb or imported, and was banned and Works

We replaced one 60W incandescent lamp and low power consumption even think of literally millions of people, the manufacturer has a new light of life. All the years we served.

News or an illuminated by the followers 60W, no doubt.

If we are very green, record player is 60W bulb, when I see was the day in the history books, and more cameras.

Click on images fresh people just do not, but sometimes some parts of modern investing not impressed.

Of the installation is very boring, and despite the light bulb's worth by 60W low energy emitted has a different sound as well.

I document the work in the pool, in my humiliation, appeared after a few months, with the smell of fire in the last foreigners to table.

Finally, the smell, strength, security of the light bulbs you can save by acting to remove them from the hot light back into the lake.

A glowing wonder how all the rooms again transferred to the original light. This new alternative is far superior to low energy consumption.

Is difficult to contribute to the boiler room and back in the old style light bulbs are in use, consectetuer adipiscing.

This is the old-style bulbs, cutting short fibers, so many years later, again for the production of lamps, the provision and management of tender life for most cases.

Name another time-saving light bulbs to the most remote areas, as more bulbs are left through the back door from 1950 to 1940.

Add to my toxic chemicals and low at the start, the furniture of the lamps dangerous.

Also, I was looking for variety stores buy, buy, and left the meeting of the 60W lamps so if you want your old incandescent bulbs on the ball to sell around 1 €!

Fortunately, a few months ago, and he went through my mind, and I bought a 60W 40W 25W bulb number.

Back to the properties of the bulb in the palace of a world more clearly than their best night.

Changes, which is stupid, because looking at the low life very difficult.

U what I think?"

Trip wrote:
I think it's an improvement.
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"When one of his age at the end of September (Friday) was a sad day for me.

60W bulb or imported, and was banned and Works

We replaced one 60W incandescent lamp and low power consumption even think of literally millions of people, the manufacturer has a new light of life. All the years we served.

News or an illuminated by the followers 60W, no doubt.

If we are very green, record player is 60W bulb, when I see was the day in the history books, and more cameras.

Click on images fresh people just do not, but sometimes some parts of modern investing not impressed.

Of the installation is very boring, and despite the light bulb's worth by 60W low energy emitted has a different sound as well.

I document the work in the pool, in my humiliation, appeared after a few months, with the smell of fire in the last foreigners to table.

Finally, the smell, strength, security of the light bulbs you can save by acting to remove them from the hot light back into the lake.

A glowing wonder how all the rooms again transferred to the original light. This new alternative is far superior to low energy consumption.

Is difficult to contribute to the boiler room and back in the old style light bulbs are in use, consectetuer adipiscing.

This is the old-style bulbs, cutting short fibers, so many years later, again for the production of lamps, the provision and management of tender life for most cases.

Name another time-saving light bulbs to the most remote areas, as more bulbs are left through the back door from 1950 to 1940.

Add to my toxic chemicals and low at the start, the furniture of the lamps dangerous.

Also, I was looking for variety stores buy, buy, and left the meeting of the 60W lamps so if you want your old incandescent bulbs on the ball to sell around 1 €!

Fortunately, a few months ago, and he went through my mind, and I bought a 60W 40W 25W bulb number.

Back to the properties of the bulb in the palace of a world more clearly than their best night.

Changes, which is stupid, because looking at the low life very difficult.

U what I think?"

hmm. what languages?
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I think it needs to be matured by a few hundred years of word of mouth.